HELL is REAL! Pope, MJ & Selena are there!

[endlessknight]

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Yeah kulba mulang! Maka ingun gyud kag
NOBODY IS SAFE!

I hear that phrase all the time.


Sa American Idol.

[redhorse1L]

As a Catholic, yes, believe everything the Catholic church says. But then again, tao ra sad baya na sila ang naa sa Vatican ha? They are not Gods. Let us just be open minded lang sad kay dili nasad na maayo kung mag blind faith ta. Tu-o kay maoy sulti nila. Dili nato e think si Pope John Paul etc, but what if naay esulti na mao ni imung dapat e believe but you have a gut feeling in yourself that it isn't right? Would you still believe it?

Ani siya, KILLING somebody is BAD and is a SIN. What if let us say someone who you respect so much tells you to KILL (Such as the case in cults like Jim Jones - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia), would you KILL because your respected leader tells you nga mao na sugo sa ginoo?

As for the beatification of Pope John Paul II, yes I believe in that. Yes I know he has done a lot of things in this world. He is the only Pope who has united both MUSLIM and CHRISTIANS unlike sa mga POPE sauna during the CRUSADES na ilang gipa go on a mission ang mga Christians to convert the people in other religions to CHRISTIANITY. In other words, ilang gepamugos ang CHRISTIANITY. Like I said, to each his own. Let us all respect each others religion.

As for the langit or impyerno part, it will always be everybody's question who is there or here. But then at the end of it all, wala gyud makatubag ana even kanang mga gipakita ug Heaven or Hell! Even kita as people, we do not have the right to say to someone he or she is going to hell because who are we really to judge diba? At the end of it all, judgment day ra gyud ta makahibaw who is going where!

Have a blessed HOLY WEEK!

I don't think you fully understood what beatification means.
It's an official recognition that a certain person is already in heaven.
There are teachings sa Catholic Church that is not a dogma, or an official declaration.

Example, the Shroud of Turin is not officially recognized as an imprint of the "True Image of Christ".
So, pwede ra ka dili mo-too. But when the Church says it's official, coming from the Seat of Peter, then dili na ka pwede mo-question ana.
Cause if mo-question pa ka sa officially declared, then it's like questioning the credibility of the Church.

We don't have a right to say who's in hell. Even the Church doesn't say that Hitler is in Hell.
But the Church, guided by the Holy Spirit, is able to recognize such holy persons to be our intercessors with God.

[angel_brey]

I hear that phrase all the time.


Sa American Idol.

Mao! heheh

[orochimaru700]

hahah dili na baya ka kadala ug earthly posessions pagkamatay nimo! ehhe unsaun nalang!

Pero sa book baya ni Dante Aligheri na Inferno, ang pinaka middle part baya daw kuno sa HELL where SATAN is placed kay COLD baya daw hinuon kay everytime daw the devil flaps his wings, the surrounding atmosphere around him daw freezes including the water something where he is in. Mao na he cannot get out.

mao diay to ang game nga Dante's Inferno last level ang kontra ni Dante ky si satan naa sa ice ang lugar...

[angel_brey]

I don't think you fully understood what beatification means.
It's an official recognition that a certain person is already in heaven.
There are teachings sa Catholic Church that is not a dogma, or an official declaration.

Example, the Shroud of Turin is not officially recognized as an imprint of the "True Image of Christ".
So, pwede ra ka dili mo-too. But when the Church says it's official, coming from the Seat of Peter, then dili na ka pwede mo-question ana.
Cause if mo-question pa ka sa officially declared, then it's like questioning the credibility of the Church.

We don't have a right to say who's in hell. Even the Church doesn't say that Hitler is in Hell.
But the Church, guided by the Holy Spirit, is able to recognize such holy persons to be our intercessors with God.

Yes ka get ko sa imung gepasabot! But like I said, cge fine guided by the Holy Spirit they are able to recognize such holy persons to be our intercessors with God. But then again, they are only people. And if that guided by the holy spirit is kadtung all candidates for pope are in a room na walay electric fan or air na maka palid sa smoke, then whoever the smoke goes to is the new POPE, well science can explain that sad baya.

Basta overall, about who is in hell or in heaven that we do not know and we will never know until the JUDGMENT DAY comes.

As for unsay dapat tuohan, like I said and will say again, depende ra na sa tao kay we are given FREE WILL and even diri, daghan tao dili mu tuo ug ginoo so again, to each his own.

HAVE A BLESSED HOLY WEEK!

[angel_brey]

mao diay to ang game nga Dante's Inferno last level ang kontra ni Dante ky si satan naa sa ice ang lugar...

Yes sis mao to siya!

Inferno (Dante) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hell has 9 circles! Each circle has a classification of who is there.

And yes, in the last and innermost circle, there lies Satan.

The ninth circle is ringed by classical and Biblical giants, who perhaps symbolize the pride and other spiritual flaws lying behind acts of treachery.[52] The giants are standing on a ledge above the ninth circle of Hell,[53] so that from the Malebolge they are visible from the waist up. They include Nimrod, as well as Ephialtes (who with his brother Otus tried to storm Olympus during the Gigantomachy), Briareus, Tityos, and Typhon. The giant Antaeus lowers Dante and Virgil into the pit that forms the ninth circle of Hell (Canto XXXI).
The traitors are distinguished from the "merely" fraudulent in that their acts involve betraying a special relationship of some kind. There are four concentric zones (or "rounds") of traitors, corresponding, in order of seriousness, to betrayal of family ties, betrayal of community ties, betrayal of guests, and betrayal of liege lords. In contrast to the popular image of Hell as fiery, the traitors are frozen in a lake of ice known as Cocytus, with each group encased in ice to progressively greater depths.

• Round 1 is named Caïna, after Cain, who killed his brother. Traitors to kindred are here immersed in the ice up to their faces – "the place / where shame can show itself"[54] Mordred, who attacked his uncle King Arthur, is one of the traitors here: "him who, at one blow, had chest and shadow / shattered by Arthur's hand;"[55] (Canto XXXII).

• Round 2 is named Antenora, after Antenor of Troy, who according to medieval tradition, betrayed his city to the Greeks. Traitors to political entities, such as party, city, or country, are located here. Count Ugolino pauses from gnawing on the head of his rival Archbishop Ruggieri to describe how Ruggieri imprisoned him along with his children, condemning them to death by starvation. A number of correspondences, such as allusions to the same passage of the Aeneid, link this passage to the story of Paolo and Francesca in the second circle,[56] indicating that this icy hell of betrayal is the final result of consent to sin[56] (Cantos XXXII and XXXIII).

• Round 3 is named Ptolomaea, probably after Ptolemy, son of Abubus, who invited Simon Maccabaeus and his sons to a banquet and then killed them.[56] Traitors to their guests are punished here, lying supine in the ice, which covers them, except for their faces. They are punished more severely than the previous traitors, since the relationship to guests is an entirely voluntary one.[57] Fra Alberigo, who had armed soldiers kill his brother at a banquet, explains that sometimes a soul falls here before Atropos cuts the thread of life. Their bodies on Earth are immediately possessed by a demon, so what seems to be a walking man has reached the stage of being incapable of repentance (Canto XXXIII).

• Round 4 is named Judecca, after Judas Iscariot, Biblical betrayer of Christ. Here are the traitors to their lords and benefactors. All of the sinners punished within are completely encapsulated in ice, distorted in all conceivable positions. With no one to talk to here, Dante and Virgil quickly move on to the centre of Hell (Canto XXXIV).

Satan is trapped in the frozen central zone in the Ninth Circle of Hell, Canto 34.


In the very centre of Hell, condemned for committing the ultimate sin (personal treachery against God), is Satan. Satan is described as a giant, terrifying beast with three faces, one red, one black, and one a pale yellow:

he had three faces: one in front bloodred;
and then another two that, just above
the midpoint of each shoulder, joined the first;
and at the crown, all three were reattached;
the right looked somewhat yellow, somewhat white;
the left in its appearance was like those
who come from where the Nile, descending, flows.[58]

Satan is waist deep in ice, weeping tears from his six eyes, and beating his six wings as if trying to escape, although the icy wind that emanates only further ensures his imprisonment (as well as that of the others in the ring). Each face has a mouth that chews on a prominent traitor, with Brutus and Cassius feet-first in the left and right mouths respectively. These men were involved in the assassination of Julius Caesar—an act which, to Dante, represented the destruction of a unified Italy and the killing of the man who was divinely appointed to govern the world.[59] In the central, most vicious mouth is Judas Iscariot—the namesake of Judecca and the betrayer of Jesus. Judas is being administered the most horrifying torture of the three traitors, his head gnawed by Satan's mouth, and his back being forever skinned by Satan's claws. What is seen here is a perverted trinity: Satan is impotent, ignorant, and full of hate, in contrast to the all-powerful, all-knowing, and loving nature of God.[59]
The two poets escape Hell by climbing down Satan's ragged fur, passing through the centre of the earth (with a consequent change in the direction of gravity, causing Dante to at first think they are returning to Hell), and they emerge in the other hemisphere (described in the Purgatorio) just before dawn on Easter Sunday, beneath a sky studded with stars (Canto XXXIV).

[SioDenz]

Pope in Hell is a given. Not Shocking at all

[angel_brey]

Pope in Hell is a given. Not Shocking at all

Why? Kindly elaborate? hehhe para sad ba makahibaw ta sa imung views!

[redhorse1L]

Yes ka get ko sa imung gepasabot! But like I said, cge fine guided by the Holy Spirit they are able to recognize such holy persons to be our intercessors with God. But then again, they are only people. And if that guided by the holy spirit is kadtung all candidates for pope are in a room na walay electric fan or air na maka palid sa smoke, then whoever the smoke goes to is the new POPE, well science can explain that sad baya.

Basta overall, about who is in hell or in heaven that we do not know and we will never know until the JUDGMENT DAY comes.

As for unsay dapat tuohan, like I said and will say again, depende ra na sa tao kay we are given FREE WILL and even diri, daghan tao dili mu tuo ug ginoo so again, to each his own.

HAVE A BLESSED HOLY WEEK!

I don't know where you get the idea on the election of popes. I suggest you visit catholic websites so you will be enriched with the True Catholic teaching.

If you're a devout Catholic, then you should accept the Church's official teaching. Dili pwede pick and choose ra ka.

Naa ko'y nailhan daghan Katoliko nga, dili motoo ug kompisal kay makasasala ang pari, maypa direct to God nalang. Pwede ra mokalawat bahala wala'y Kompisal.
But sa teaching sa Church, one should receive the sacrament of penance if one commited mortal sins. And one cannot receive the sacrament of communion if one is not in the state of grace.

So if mo-ingon ka nga Catholic ka, pero dili ka mo-too sa ubang teaching sa Church, then wala jud ka magpraktis sa imong pagka-Katoliko.

[jaypol81]

basta ako... ang iyang story kay daghan buslot.....

pero sak2 pud xa repent sins while we still here in earth...