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    Quote Originally Posted by WordofGod View Post
    hehheheh..kataw-anan brod.
    Tubaga ni brod ai,,,YouTube - The New Age Movement - The Lie of the Serpent - 1

    maybe makasugat ka ug mga occultist karon nga time bah. another topic ni sya
    gitubag nana brod, ayaw ka problema ana. hehe.

    Quote Originally Posted by WordofGod View Post
    Apologist have their own way of explanation. You cannot dictate them! Is that your basis of calling somebody as "good apologist" by that example? Don't be afraid. Just try to raise your most logical question. You are very welcome to them Here's the link again...www.rzim.com

    Can you explain your side about the flaws of the trinity? Please.....maybe I can learn something new. Hopefully!
    some are good and some are terrible,that's how their explanations are ranged.

    good apologist know their bible well,unlike you. are you sure you never heard that story?

    no need to ask them the same question,hehe. i don't know why you keep on repeating this part. ngano mangutana pa man ko nga gipangutana naman na. naglisod pa gyud og tobag.

    how can you possibly distinguish w/c one is flawed and w/c one is not? even a simple story in the bible is elusive from your grasp.

  2. #322

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    Quote Originally Posted by WordofGod View Post
    There is a mystery in the Godhead brod and we cannot grasp its fulness. If we are unable to explain everything in this physical universe, how much more of the very being who created it! We can only understand its fulness when we shall see God face to face.

    Isaiah 55:8-9 “For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways”, declares the Lord. “As the heavens are higher then the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways and My thoughts than your thoughts.

    What I've known is that they are co-equal and co-existing. It is very illogical to compare the persons in the Godhead with one from the other since they go along in perfect harmony in love and unity throughout eternity.

    The idea that the Father is higher or more powerful than the Son will come into mind since the Son became man to become the perfect sacrifice and example for us. But try to consider Christ status with the father before his incarnation and after his resurrection!

    The Church fathers on John 1:1

    Does John 1:1 teach us of 2 ‘gods’ (a greater and a lesser one) as the Watchtower teach, or 2 facets of the same God. Let’s see how the early Church Fathers addressed this same heresy.

    Hippolytus (from Rome) was the disciple of Irenaeus, the disciple of Polycarp, the disciple of John himself. He wrote in circa A.D. 205:

    “If, then the Word was with God and was also God, what follows? Would one say that I speak of two Gods? I will not indeed speak of two Gods, but of one. I speak of two Persons, however, and of a third Economy - the grace of the Holy Spirit”.

    Tertullian of Carthage in North Africa (c. A.D. 213) wrote:

    “Now, if He too is God, for according to John, 'The Word was God,' then you have two Beings-One who commands that the thing to be made, and the other who creates. In what sense, however, you ought to understand Him to be another. I have already explained: on the ground of personality, not of substance. And in the way of distinction, not of division. I must everywhere hold only one substance, in three coherent and inseparable [persons]”

    This link explains it well..
    Trinity: Fact or Fiction? - Part 1
    if you can't explain it just dismissed it as part of God's mystery, how convenient sir sa?

    how about this? ...you know why there is no God...because its a mystery. BUT wait hey you must proved that there is no God...hmm..I said its a mystery brod.
    Last edited by malic_2; 04-16-2011 at 10:27 AM.

  3. #323

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    Quote Originally Posted by santopaps View Post
    Draw yourself nigh to God and he will draw nigh to you...he is able to take off the veil of darkness from you! believe in him...Jesus Christ, the Holy one of GOD!

    YouTube - Jesus Christ IS God - The Biblical TRUTH - This is a video of Rebuke (HD)


    May God bless us all!

    Welcome to If-Jesus-returns-kill-Him-again.com, yet another site dedicated to rejecting the Holy Bible as truth.


  4. #324

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    Hebrews 1:3 (New International Version, ©2011)

    3 The Son is the radiance of God’s glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven.

    Jesus was the exact representation of Him. Note the word exact.

  5. #325

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    Quote Originally Posted by WordofGod View Post
    hehheheh..kataw-anan brod.
    Tubaga ni brod ai,,,YouTube - The New Age Movement - The Lie of the Serpent - 1

    maybe makasugat ka ug mga occultist karon nga time bah. another topic ni sya
    hahaha,like he's there and saw Lucifer being adored by the new age people.

    gullible kaayo mo sa.

  6. #326

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    Give Peace a Chance by John Lennon

    Paminawa gud ninyo

  7. #327

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    Quote Originally Posted by THE SKULLS View Post
    Give Peace a Chance by John Lennon

    Paminawa gud ninyo
    ma konsensya man ta nimo nas oi.

    kini paminawa pod bro...YouTube - Govinda - Kula Shaker

  8. #328

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    Quote Originally Posted by malic_2 View Post
    gitubag nana brod, ayaw ka problema ana. hehe.
    Asa bah? hehhe..wala man kay explanation nga gipakita gani nga expounded jud.
    puro raman na imoha rason nga putol2!

    For the sake of those following the discussion, can you please give us a detailed explaination of your version of truth? Unsaon man namo pagsabot ug uyon sa imong gusto ipahibalo if wala kay gi-prove diri nga truth? Ai pag sige ug likay ug rason...explain lang diha sa imong truth.

    good apologist know their bible well,unlike you. are you sure you never heard that story?
    I admit I am not a good apologist but i wanted to share lang sa uban of what I have known to be the truth of Jesus Christ. Unsa man imohang truth sad nga version, that's my point! Dili man gud klaro kung unsa jud imong belief. Bati man sad kung wala kay baruganan.

    no need to ask them the same question,hehe. i don't know why you keep on repeating this part. ngano mangutana pa man ko nga gipangutana naman na. naglisod pa gyud og tobag.
    Nahimuot jud ko nimo bai. Naglisud ug tubag or naglisud ka ug sabot? Asa man dapita naglisud kung nakasabot ka sa explanation?

    Give us your detailed version of truth para mahuman atong argument! that's all. Ai sige'g rason unya puro lihay.

  9. #329

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    Quote Originally Posted by malic_2 View Post
    if you can't explain it just dismissed it as part of God's mystery, how convenient sir sa?
    Now, aside from the trinity explain your version of God and i'll refute it! Let's see if you'll have a plausible explanation. I think that would be fair

    how about this? ...you know why there is no God...because its a mystery. BUT wait hey you must proved that there is no God...hmm..I said its a mystery brod.
    Out of topic na brod. Adto sa atheism nga thread.
    YouTube - Scientists, Atheists ? Atheism Disguised as The Science of Evolution. Lies presented as Science 4/16

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    Quote Originally Posted by WordofGod View Post
    Asa bah? hehhe..wala man kay explanation nga gipakita gani nga expounded jud.
    puro raman na imoha rason nga putol2!
    e search sa youtube. ni explain pod diay ka diri? youtube og copy paste man gani ka. di ko mo explain kong akong ka istorya wa kasabot sa iyang sources mao ng e copy paste na lang or post og youtube,


    I admit I am not a good apologist but i wanted to share lang sa uban of what I have known to be the truth of Jesus Christ. Unsa man imohang truth sad nga version, that's my point! Dili man gud klaro kung unsa jud imong belief. Bati man sad kung wala kay baruganan.
    klaro man.hehe. akong baroganan kay mao ni...SAYOP KA.




    Nahimuot jud ko nimo bai. Naglisud ug tubag or naglisud ka ug sabot? Asa man dapita naglisud kung nakasabot ka sa explanation?

    Give us your detailed version of truth para mahuman atong argument! that's all. Ai sige'g rason unya puro lihay.
    haha kasayon ra ato sabton. kong ga toon ka og esoteric bai naa pay mas lalom ato nga explanation. ikaw ang wa kasabot kay imo ra man gi post, tapolan ka mo sabot ato sa kay di man nimo ma explain diri. beh e explain daw to diri nya atong tagsa tagsaon pag knock down.

    unsa may lihayan bai? di man gani kaabot molihay na hinoon ko.

    pasensya na bai ha, di gyud ko ganahan gud anang mga fundamentalist kaayo og baroganan kay it defeats human potential. mao ng ako gyud kang gi atobang. pero di pod ni kasoko akoa but gosto lang pod ko ipakita nimo nga di ra kamo ang sakto.

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