***truth about jesus christ!

[WordofGod]

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We can notice these days that deceptions of satan can be observe everywhere. His minions are working also double time.

The truth of Jesus will always surface to the top no matter how they try to suppress it!

[WordofGod]

Fellow Christians, be encouraged and let's strengthen our faith in Christ as we know that we will be victorious in the end!

YouTube - Ravi Zacharias - Is Faith Delusional Part 1/6

[malic_2]

YouTube - Ravi Zacharias explains the Trinity

The doctrine of the trinity bro doesn't show a plurality of God! it's a very simple logic but you can't easily get it!

Let me share some points here...
On the level of God, there are 3 person's but only 1 God in its essence.
Michael and Gabriel, both are archangels of God. Now are there any other archangels? NO. definitely only one being called the archangels but there several persons in that level.
How about humans? are there any other species called humans? NOT. There should be only ONE human form but it consists multitudes of persons.

Isn't it simple?

hmmm, now you're in my zone. that's a wrong definition of trinity. try something else, word of advice sir...know your doctrine first.

Michael and Gabriel are both Archangels but they are not 2 in 1 Archangel.

yes there is only one specie called Human but again there is no one absolute entity called Human.

the doctrine of trinity says that God is one BEING but composed of three persons. The Father is God,the Son is God,the Spirit is God. The father is distinct from the son and the son is distinct from the Holy spirit but all are one absolute entity called God.

[WordofGod]

I think you have a good definition than mine, thanks for that.

Yah, they are indestructible and the one is inseparable from the other. Just like the idea of a family, though the bible doesn't literally mention the word family, and it only says that they shall be one flesh (Adam and Eve). They are 2 different persons but one family and their functions is distinct and inseparable from the other.

YouTube - The Law of Non-Contradiction and the Trinity

Dili kayo ko maayo ug logic brod.

[malic_2]

I think you have a good definition than mine, thanks for that.

Yah, they are indestructible and the one is inseparable from the other. Just like the idea of a family, though the bible doesn't literally mention the word family, and it only says that they shall be one flesh (Adam and Eve). They are 2 different persons but in one family and their functions is distinct and inseparable from the other.

YouTube - The Law of Non-Contradiction and the Trinity

thanks for agreeing but your analogy now is still wrong. there is a one literal absolute being called God, that's what the doctrine stated, the family analogy does not fit in. there is no one literal absolute being called FAMILY.

adam and eve in one flesh? bai its more of a metaphor man na.

[malic_2]

@WordofGod

never mind bai...sige ayo ayo na lang diha...hehe.

[WordofGod]

Okay I agree. I think the concept of a cube, a 3 dimesional object will best fit this analogy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kreSbagj_RM

Then what;s wrong with the Trinity?

[miyay]

Yes that is why they have a sacrificial system. It is a symbol that they have accepted Jesus Christ sacrifice on the cross when the time comes. So The animal sacrificial system was used as a method to forgive sins this is for them who does not know Christ yet to be able to accept christ sacrifice even before Christ sacrifice. So in effect they still have accepted Christ sacrifice. This is the very purpose of the animal sacrificial system for people who dont know christ during their time.

The name Jesus' or Emmanuel means "God with Us". Meaning God is with them during that time of the new testament. So Jesus in the Old testament was not known as Jesus but the Son of God the Son of God is not yet Jesus.

Therefore it is not necessary that they believe in the name of "Jesus" during their time. Since God provided them ways to be able to accept Jesus sacrifice before the event.
There are many names like Jesus but Jesus Christ has many names.


But it is possible to separate from your sinful actions.

so if jesus died for all mankind (i'm assuming past, present and future, jewish/christians or non jewish/christians) as the sacrificial lamb, it wouldn't matter if they believe in jesus or not. as long as they don't sin. but what is sin? if you use bible definitions, what about those who haven't read the bible?

[cebugdev]

diba ang bible is more like a novel written by novelist 2000 years ago about a certain person who claims to be the messiah?

im just wondering; why do people uses bible quotes when the bible is just written by man,
and dont even told me that the bible is the word of GOD since even stories from the four gospels of the new testaments contains differ to each other.

For me quoting the bible from different places is just plain crazy. No biasedness aside, the bible was written by men. And if we apply religious biasedness to it many will say "Yes it is written by man but inspired by God or angels". Then i will contradict with "Then why the hell there are difference and inconsistencies among the four gospels with supposedly tells the story of the same person"? are the angels drunk on that day?

And if jesus died for all our sins past present and future, then why the hell there are still preachers around,
so if i follow all you guys are saying, dba saved naman unta tang tanan?
DLi na ko mocare If i do something "sinfull" tonight..

were my "sins" already paid by jesus or not?
if so then can I kill anyone tommorow then?
and who define what is a sin and what is not anyways?

and about the second coming, what else is he waiting? Diba if Jesus cruxifixion was a waste since daghan man gahapon sinners karn, then why he did not come back immediately?

If behaviour profiler nyung pangutan.on, Jesus is like a con artist, a good oratorist like Rizal, and even a magician like Copperfield or David Blaine back then, then people will immediately believe because people were just living in simple life back then, anything out of logic is magical. anything out of ordinary is heavenly, anything unexplainable is powerfull.

And there were many books written about Rizal or Copperfield or David Blaine on these generations, maybe after another 1000 years those books will become the bible.

OT: im not a heretic but im just here to challenge your dedication to the bible.

peace all.

[WordofGod]

diba ang bible is more like a novel written by novelist 2000 years ago about a certain person who claims to be the messiah?

It's not that simple bai.
Try to consider the lives of the martyrs of the early history of the church. You have the right to deny Christ, you can say whatever you like against Him, but you cannot defy and suppress the truth he brought in this world.

im just wondering; why do people uses bible quotes when the bible is just written by man,

I think it is only human being who knows how to write. It is very awkward and unbelievable if we say that an animal wrote it. diba? How about the 10 commandments that God himself was the one who inscribe it in tablets of stone? would we believe it? dili man sad necessary tingali that God have to show himself in every generation of man just to let him know that he exist. diba? That's why we are given faith para ma exercise sad nato.

and dont even told me that the bible is the word of GOD since even stories from the four gospels of the new testaments contains differ to each other.

And what book will you consider as the word of God? If wala, then would you imply that there is no God? The 4 gospels do not contradict each other. They are records of 4 different testimonies about the being of the Lord Jesus Christ. Lain man sad kung uniform tanan ang ilang words and message...redundant kaayo if ibutang ang 4 sa usa lang ka compilation.

For me quoting the bible from different places is just plain crazy. No biasedness aside, the bible was written by men. And if we apply religious biasedness to it many will say "Yes it is written by man but inspired by God or angels". Then i will contradict with "Then why the hell there are difference and inconsistencies among the four gospels with supposedly tells the story of the same person"? are the angels drunk on that day?

If that's your view of the word of God then continue with it. Just be sure you have something to make referenced into when studying the nature of God.

And if jesus died for all our sins past present and future, then why the hell there are still preachers around,

We are commanded by Jesus to spread the good news of the gospel to the whole world. In fact, it is one of the things that a christian should do in order to advance the kingdom of God.

Mark 16:15: And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
Matthew 24:14: And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

so if i follow all you guys are saying, dba saved naman unta tang tanan?
DLi na ko mocare If i do something "sinfull" tonight..

You have to understand the gift of salvation brod. It doesn't say that saved natang tanan coz Christ died for all mankind. Dili sad ingon ana that we are free to sin since we are saved also.

were my "sins" already paid by jesus or not?
if so then can I kill anyone tommorow then?
and who define what is a sin and what is not anyways?

Know more about the doctrine of eternal salvation. It is worth fulfilling if we know the truth behind it. Dili baya sayon jud if we will follow what Christ commands.

OT: im not a heretic but im just here to challenge your dedication to the bible.

It is always good to be curious brod as long as we have the right motive in knowing the truth of Jesus Christ!