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    Quote Originally Posted by cRoSs_eYed_cYcloPs View Post
    I believe in Jesus Christ.. No convincing necessary.. hehehe.. Although Salvation is free.. not all will be saved.. so I constantly long for His precious grace and mercy.. I want to be saved.. So I believe in Jesus.. the more atheists try to convince others that God does not exist.. all the more I believe in God and He is true.. exactly the reason why the Bible says-- "For whosoever believes in Him He shall be saved.."
    That's right bro! be an encouragement to others also Take hold of that precious gift from God.

  2. #242

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    Why does it have to be human or divine? Maybe human is divine. Why couldn't Jesus have been a father (human) and still be capable of all those miracles?
    - da vinci code

    this is why i love the book

  3. #243

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    [QUOTE=Resurgence;9773985][I]
    What I have done in my life to say that I will pass by God;s judgement? A lot. Like condemning the crucifixion of his Son. Rendering my body and will to his glory. Rendering LOVING SERVICE to Him and His Son. Offering what I do every day and the results to them. And a lot more. Need me to expound?
    I understand brod and that's good as long as you are doing good things and what is right in God's eyes. Anyway, there are only 2 kinds of religion in the world...The religion of works and the religion of Grace which is Christianity. It's obvious that you belong no other than the religion of works.

    And yes, all the prophets and messengers of God did say the same thing? And now, did people listen? Some did, mostly didn't. And why? Because they don't want to be servants of God. They want to be masters.
    You've just answered my question. That's why as i said, the world can see no difference even if you'll take long lines of prophets to preach the same message about GOD. Jesus is the fulfillment of it all.

    And since you say that the reason Jesus asked his Father to forgive those that crucified him in order to spare them from Hell or whatever punishment, you admit that crucifying him is a total and absolute offense to God's beloved?
    John 3:16: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

    Try to ponder the word LOVE. What does it mean when a person truly love someone? Don't you know that he is willing to face anything, even to offer his own life just to be with that someone? if you are in your 30s and above, im sure you know what I mean. Divine Love is able to sacrifice everything a person has or even offer his life for the sake of someone!

    Then why are the people of today any different? Should we glorify Jesus' crucifixion or be sad that it even happened? We should be glorifying the fact that Jesus came down here to preach LOVE FOR GOD, not the crucifixion.
    We should know brod that the devil's goal is to ruin God's creation. He wanted to destroy human's morality and all of God's attributes/image in man (ie. love, joy, kindness, compassion, mercy..etc)

    By the death of His Son. we should rather be thankful and give back the Glory to God for his great Love to us by giving his only precious Son to redeem us to eternity with Him!

  4. #244

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    Many lives were changed because of the LOVE of GOD!

    this is a very nice video...YouTube - Father's Love Letter - Video Original

  5. #245

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    Quote Originally Posted by miyay View Post
    Why does it have to be human or divine? Maybe human is divine. Why couldn't Jesus have been a father (human) and still be capable of all those miracles?
    - da vinci code

    this is why i love the book
    There's no harm in watching these kind of movies as long as you already have a deeper knowledge about the truths of the saviour and Lord Jesus Christ. We should consider that there is only one truth! and truth by definition is exclusive. As Winston Churchill hath said, truth is so valuable that it is often protected by a bodyguard of lies!
    -from the words of Ravi Z.

    YouTube - The Da Vinci Code Delusion Part 1 of 5 FREE DOCUMENTARY

  6. #246

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resurgence
    We cannot fulfill the commandments? "We"? Or is it only you? Because I can and I will. You are just taking the easy way out sir, in my opinion. Then again I point out, repentance, asking for forgiveness becomes moot and academic if we are "redeemed" through Christ's "death". Why the heck should I have to go through all that if Christ already "saved" me by dying? Didn't you say that Christ died for us all, believers and non-believers alike? Then now you say that it would be moot for non-believers. Which is it sir? You want to be partakers in his murder. That's fine. I DON'T. I would prefer a non-crucified JESUS, TEACHING ME HOW TO LIVE MY LIFE, than a crucified one with about a hundred or so preachers breathing down my neck telling me how to "surrender" to Jesus. It's so easy to say "I surrender to Jesus" sir. Then comes the question, now that I've surrendered to him, now what? Do you have an answer for that?
    John stopped Christ from being sacrificed on the Cross. This is what Jesus himself told John

    Mathew 16
    21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.

    22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.

    23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
    I think your beliefs are Agnostic correct me if im wrong.
    Last edited by Kenshiro; 04-13-2011 at 05:39 PM.

  7. #247

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    double post
    Last edited by Kenshiro; 04-13-2011 at 05:39 PM.

  8. #248

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    Quote Originally Posted by WordofGod View Post
    There's no harm in watching these kind of movies as long as you already have a deeper knowledge about the truths of the saviour and Lord Jesus Christ. We should consider that there is only one truth! and truth by definition is exclusive. As Winston Churchill hath said, truth is so valuable that it is often protected by a bodyguard of lies!
    -from the words of Ravi Z.

    YouTube - The Da Vinci Code Delusion Part 1 of 5 FREE DOCUMENTARY
    born of a virgin, shed blood to save and ascended like mithras. this god was worshipped in four religions.

    i've always wondered, what happened to those who haven't even heard of or was born before jesus of nazareth? were they damned after death? the god of love which jesus spoke of doesn't seem the type to damn his creation...

  9. #249

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    Quote Originally Posted by miyay View Post
    born of a virgin, shed blood to save and ascended like mithras. this god was worshipped in four religions.

    i've always wondered, what happened to those who haven't even heard of or was born before jesus of nazareth? were they damned after death? the god of love which jesus spoke of doesn't seem the type to damn his creation...
    Christ died for all of mankind including for the old testament period. Priest sacrificed lamb or sheep as a symbolism and acceptance of Christ ultimate sacrifice.

    Christ and God hates sin but loves sinners. But if sinners continue to cling to sin then their sin is going to be destroyed along with them.
    If we separate from our sins then only our sins will be destroyed.

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    Nice point Brod Kenshiro!

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