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    Default Re: About Jan-jan, the "Dancing" Boy on Willing Willie


    I agree in some points Willie said . Clearly, it's not his fault that Janjan was dancing as the macho dancer . Blame it to the casting director since he/she is the one who recruit contestants to be in the show .

    I don't think P&G , Mang Inasal , and sponsors who pulled out on the sponsorship deal , has to do with Willie . It's something to do with the incident that happens to be against their company's values and ethics . They know their company will get affected if they continue supporting the show - the show who made a kid look like a scene of Vilma Santos in "Burlesk Queen" when she started the prostitution business .

    Willie's career turned into downward spiral when he supported Villar . It seems PNoy was threatened by that move plus Baby James endorsed Villar instead of his uncle - luckily he won by landslide . So now PNoy is firing all his bullets to Willie .

    I don't think Willie has to personally apologize for what happened during the Janjan incident . But as the show host (and a producer?) , apologizing might shut the haters down . But bad publicity is still a publicity . So he's not doing it . If I were Willie , I don't fire back to those wash-up celebs , they are not really sincerely supporting Janjan, they just want publicity .
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    Default Re: About Jan-jan, the "Dancing" Boy on Willing Willie

    Quote Originally Posted by dodong69 View Post
    sige daw! maka post ka murakag sikinsa manaway.
    post sa unsa?? saway sa unsa? o ni kinsa? ngano ka oi?

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    Default Re: About Jan-jan, the "Dancing" Boy on Willing Willie

    Most of the last few people who've weighed in share the same sentiment/s: that this is no big deal and that the Willie antagonists are all doing it for publicity.

    That's exactly the point why this is a good issue to talk about. That's part of the big picture. A lot of us seem to be oblivious to the real implications of this entire fiasco and think that what happened was nothing and is merely a simple issue of "a lousy show making fun of a kid" (which in itself speaks volumes about what has become of the quality of entertainment and life in general here in the Philippines. Seriously, it's OK to poke fun at a 6-year old on national TV and make him the object of public ridicule?).

    We Filipinos have become too tolerant of bullshit (can't think of a better term) that happens on TV. We've made variety shows such a big part of our lives and hold the Tito Vic and Joeys, the Randy John and Willies (and the others that have come and gone) in such high regard - high enough to even land Tito Sotto a Senate seat, zero credentials notwithstanding - that we allow their misjudgments and ego-trips a hall pass. We allow them to pick on people on their shows, especially the poor and uneducated. We're enforcing their belief that money is the end all be all. "Hi, welcome to the show! Allow me to poke fun at your ignorant non-educated self in front of national TV! Don't worry, here's P10,000 for your troubles!" I don't know about you guys, but last I checked a fellow countryman's dignity is not worth P10,000.

    But that's a different topic and a different thread altogether. The meat of the issue here is what happened on that March 12, 2011 episode on Willing Willie.

    (This was never about Willie for me, but the way he has reacted as of late to the backlashes of this entire fiasco has shown us who Willie really is.)

    Has it ever occurred to you to try asking why a lot of people (not the MTRCB, not the DSWD or any other social rights group you can think of) have been up in arms about this? Do you really think everyone, including the celebrities who aired their grievances through Twitter, did it for the publicity? What do they need it for? Are they not entitled to their opinions like you and me? And if anything, they did not go on public television to show their disgust at what happened (unlike Willie who went on a personal rampage on live TV verbally assaulting and naming those who "attacked" him and belittling them. He thinks that he's the only one entitled to an opinion and that his show should never be attacked because he gives away money on his show, which he describes as "help" and "concern".)

    In short, did it ever occur to you that maybe this isn't a publicity stunt and that they actually really care about what happens if Willie goes unpunished and scot-free notwithstanding what happened on his show? Can any of you prove that they're actually doing this to put themselves in the spotlight?

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    Default Re: About Jan-jan, the "Dancing" Boy on Willing Willie

    True. This is the big picture that many Filipinos unfortunately do not seem able to comprehend. The fact that Willie refuses to even apologize (which may have been enough to make the issue disappear), teaches the uneducated that what happened is alright. We will be back (if we are not already) in the dark ages with regard to children's rights.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jumperman View Post
    Most of the last few people who've weighed in share the same sentiment/s: that this is no big deal and that the Willie antagonists are all doing it for publicity.

    That's exactly the point why this is a good issue to talk about. That's part of the big picture. A lot of us seem to be oblivious to the real implications of this entire fiasco and think that what happened was nothing and is merely a simple issue of "a lousy show making fun of a kid" (which in itself speaks volumes about what has become of the quality of entertainment and life in general here in the Philippines. Seriously, is it OK to poke fun at a 6-year old on national TV and make him the object of public ridicule?).

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    Default Re: About Jan-jan, the "Dancing" Boy on Willing Willie

    Quote Originally Posted by Jumperman View Post
    Most of the last few people who've weighed in share the same sentiment/s: that this is no big deal and that the Willie antagonists are all doing it for publicity.

    That's exactly the point why this is a good issue to talk about. That's part of the big picture. A lot of us seem to be oblivious to the real implications of this entire fiasco and think that what happened was nothing and is merely a simple issue of "a lousy show making fun of a kid" (which in itself speaks volumes about what has become of the quality of entertainment and life in general here in the Philippines. Seriously, it's OK to poke fun at a 6-year old on national TV and make him the object of public ridicule?).

    We Filipinos have become too tolerant of bullshit (can't think of a better term) that happens on TV. We've made variety shows such a big part of our lives and hold the Tito Vic and Joeys, the Randy John and Willies (and the others that have come and gone) in such high regard - high enough to even land Tito Sotto a Senate seat, zero credentials notwithstanding - that we allow their misjudgments and ego-trips a hall pass. We allow them to pick on people on their shows, especially the poor and uneducated. We're enforcing their belief that money is the end all be all. "Hi, welcome to the show! Allow me to poke fun at your ignorant non-educated self in front of national TV! Don't worry, here's P10,000 for your troubles!" I don't know about you guys, but last I checked a fellow countryman's dignity is not worth P10,000.

    But that's a different topic and a different thread altogether. The meat of the issue here is what happened on that March 12, 2011 episode on Willing Willie.

    (This was never about Willie for me, but the way he has reacted as of late to the backlashes of this entire fiasco has shown us who Willie really is.)

    Has it ever occurred to you to try asking why a lot of people (not the MTRCB, not the DSWD or any other social rights group you can think of) have been up in arms about this? Do you really think everyone, including the celebrities who aired their grievances through Twitter, did it for the publicity? What do they need it for? Are they not entitled to their opinions like you and me? And if anything, they did not go on public television to show their disgust at what happened (unlike Willie who went on a personal rampage on live TV verbally assaulting and naming those who "attacked" him and belittling them. He thinks that he's the only one entitled to an opinion and that his show should never be attacked because he gives away money on his show, which he describes as "help" and "concern".)

    In short, did it ever occur to you that maybe this isn't a publicity stunt and that they actually really care about what happens if Willie goes unpunished and scot-free notwithstanding what happened on his show? Can any of you prove that they're actually doing this to put themselves in the spotlight?
    sakto man ka nga dapat maturuan ug leksyon si willi apan mas nindoot kung muopen imong mind sa mga nagpost diri. Naay sala si willi, pero makaingun ta nga daghan dyud siya ug natabangan. Wala man siguruy taw nga magsunud sunud niya kung wala siyay nabuhat diba? Kabaw ko nga daghan siyag nahatag na kwarta. Kwarta ra ba diay? Kung imong hunahunaun pag-ayo, dili lang kwarta ang makuha nimo. Si willi murag nahimong freedom wall sa mga pobre, kabantay ka nga pobre moy gadaghan diri? Diri nila gipakita ang ilang pamati ug mga hinanaing. Diri nato makita ang mga suliran sa mga taw. Kung naa palay ingun ani sa gobyerno, didto na unta sila niadto. Diri pud masayran sa mga nanan-aw nga naa pa diay mga taw nga naglisod sama nila. Ako mismo nakarealize how to appreciate my life. Sakto dyud ka nga sayop si willi atong gibuhat niya, nihilak gud to ang bata, apan naay kamutuuran na atong makuha. The truth hurts man gyud na. Apan dili ni siya basihan na maban na siya for life. Nakabantay ko sa mga taw nga dali kaau makareact. Huna-hunaa pud tawn ninyo na walay taw na perpekto ug dapat pud nato iopen pag-ayo atong mind. Mau ni ang usa ka side, naa pay laing side. Think think think. Another one, unsa man diay giexpect nimo sa mga artista? Timan-i, Entertainment is for fun, mau ganeh entertainment ang ngan. Di ni siya gobyerno, di ni sila government leaders na mag-expect ka nga ang makuha nimo sa tv kay puro "ways to rightteousness". Kabaw pud ta na magserve sila as models but don't be so cruel. Instead, maypag mudig deeper ka sa gobyerno ug uban pang problema sa nasud. Ang nakaapan natu, maayo kaau ta manglibak, maayo kaau ta mucriticize, diba sa atong kaugalingon man jud ta mastart? sa atong kaugalingung pamilya? Ikaw? unsa may nabuhat nimo sa nasud? Mas nindot kung mureflect ka ana.

    TS, naa kay punto pero dili tanan sakto ka. Wa ko nangaay, nissulti rako sa akong opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by undderdawg View Post
    post sa unsa?? saway sa unsa? o ni kinsa? ngano ka oi?
    pls. check your previous post kung ngano naka ingon kog ikaw ray naka sabot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by erwin_rommel View Post
    nangita ra og sayop ang taga abs cbn ani para maka baws ni willie. its common nga naay kids mo cry on stage. very small issue pero pa dak on lang gyud. kids are less get humiliated pod compared sa adults. mu hilak sila karon pero after a few minutes, ma balik ra sila nga murag walay nahitabo
    tama ka boss erwin nga baliwala lng sa mga bata. pero i think ang ginaalma ani nla ky ang psychological effect sa bata. consciously mkita nto nga baliwala ra sa bata pero what about subconsciouly? mao na ang dili nto mkita og maobserve. ky as we all know, the brain is a very complex organ. it only takes 1 defining incident to shape the future of a person. mkakita ta og piloto, doctor, abogado or army and sometimes that alone can stimulate us to be like them. unsaon nlng if tungod ani ma-instill na sa ulo sa bata na mg macho dancer nlng cya pagdako nya? luoy pd... it may look like a very small issue blown out of proportions to others but to those na truly concern sa bata og sa mga bata nga nanan-aw its worth the trouble... let's just hope na makat-on n ang mga tao labi na si willie para ma protektahan nto ang atong future kids pd sa mga incidents like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FAQ View Post
    I agree in some points Willie said . Clearly, it's not his fault that Janjan was dancing as the macho dancer . Blame it to the casting director since he/she is the one who recruit contestants to be in the show .

    I don't think P&G , Mang Inasal , and sponsors who pulled out on the sponsorship deal , has to do with Willie . It's something to do with the incident that happens to be against their company's values and ethics . They know their company will get affected if they continue supporting the show - the show who made a kid look like a scene of Vilma Santos in "Burlesk Queen" when she started the prostitution business .

    Willie's career turned into downward spiral when he supported Villar . It seems PNoy was threatened by that move plus Baby James endorsed Villar instead of his uncle - luckily he won by landslide . So now PNoy is firing all his bullets to Willie .

    I don't think Willie has to personally apologize for what happened during the Janjan incident . But as the show host (and a producer?) , apologizing might shut the haters down . But bad publicity is still a publicity . So he's not doing it . If I were Willie , I don't fire back to those wash-up celebs , they are not really sincerely supporting Janjan, they just want publicity .
    how naive! maybe ur ryt! sala sa casting director nga wala nla gisala ang pgrecruit. pero what willie did after he knew/saw what jan2x do was not the casting director's fault. kinsa diay ngpausab2x og sayaw sa ky jan2x ang casting director? kinsa ang ngpasaka sa stage, ang casting director? kinsa diay dpat ang mangayo og apology, ang casting director? unsa diay c willie, hari nga dili na pwede mosulti og opinion nla ang ubang tao? kung buot hunahunaon dili c willie ang nanghatag og kwarta kung di ang mga sponsor mao nang dili dapat maging bastos c willie ky tungod lng nadato na cya.

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    Default Re: About Jan-jan, the "Dancing" Boy on Willing Willie

    unsa'y e-kaso sa Hambugero?pwde ba makiha ang pagka-hambugero?

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    Default Re: About Jan-jan, the "Dancing" Boy on Willing Willie

    wa pa jud ni nitagam kaning mga producer kang willie? kaklaro na anang ga da lang na ug samok? sige padayon ghapon mo. kamo ra puy birahon tawn ana nya.

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