Biblical Fact: Who killed more people in the Bible

[SioDenz]

Ngano diay para sa tao ra diay nang murder? Above diay ang ginoo ana?

All knowing man kaha nang God nimo bro? Cguro gyud ko naay mga innocent na apil didto,kanang mga bata dili diay na innocent?



Natural diay nang mo ulan ug kalayo? Murag warcraft?

Tua ra, wa lagi jud kasabot unsay God ug unsay tawo, wa jud diay ka kasabot bro if para asa nang balaod sa Bibliya.
Mangutana pa above ba ang Ginoo sa balaod nga iyang gihatag sa tawo.
Gipariha man tawn nimu ang tawo ug Ginoo oi.

Nya wala pa gyud Kasabot ug unsay KAGAWASAN/FREEDOM nga ghihatag sa tawo sa Ginoo.

Mao nah, mu kontra sa Ginoo nya mugamit ug Bibliya para iyang Proof.

[necrotic freak]

lisura bitaw jud aning wala ta kasabot oi. mahug tag kataw-anan..

ang Ginoo dili mana parihas sa congressman ug senador nga maghimo ug balaod pero apil sila ana nga balaod..

[SioDenz]

Accident manang naligsan bro! Katong sa Sodom and Gomora,Genocide manto!

nganu kahibalo man ka nga Accident, what if gigamitan ug POwer sa Ginoo ang truck para di ka break? kahibalo ka?

What if Gituyo sa Ginoo ang tsunami sa Japan, Murder sad to? naa man daghan bata atu. unsaon natu pagka hibalo?

[SioDenz]

Luke 17:29 But the day Lot left Sodom, fire and sulfur rained down from heaven and destroyed them all.

Genesis 19:24 Then the LORD rained down burning sulfur on Sodom and Gomorrah--from the LORD out of the heavens.

SO:

People Killed-->by Fire and Sulfur-->From the LORD= Murder

People killed-->by Tsunami-->from earthquake-->tru tectonic plates-->from earth-->which is Created by God= ACCIDENTS?

bata namatay-->kay naligsan-->sa truck-->gi drive sa Driver-->nga tawo-->nga Gibuhat sa Ginoo=ACCIDENTS?

[nealotol]

i think all those called there kings killed more than those there slaves...

[Kenshiro]

If I got the point of the TS correctly, then this explains it. What I understood his point is that the BIBLE is not believable to be true. What he quoted are contradictions to what's being claimed as attributes to the bible god.

example: "god is love", he was and he is love. where does hate came from? so you tell that he made hate inorder to appreciate love? it's like saying that he made "wrong" inorder to know what is right? what's the point? so you say, don't question the wisdom of god? oh c'mon.

another one: he is "all-knowing" - before anything happens, he already knows that it has to happen. so, how can there be bad or good when everything is according to his will. Well, if it's not, then why he let it to happen? Freedom? How can there be freedom when everything that has to happen, he already knew?

another one, "god is righteous" - according to the bible, he is the alpha and the omega. he created everything. where does the concept of right and wrong came from? if he created everything to be right, then there would be nothing in the universe but "all right".

Finally, I will say that when one scrutinize the bible to it's very core, take out all belief and fascinations at some moment and think deep and be rational. You will find out how the script has been manufactured.

God is love and God is also a God of Justice.
Justice is also his attribute.

If I got the point of the TS correctly, then this explains it. What I understood his point is that the BIBLE is not believable to be true. What he quoted are contradictions to what's being claimed as attributes to the bible god.

example: "god is love", he was and he is love. where does hate came from? so you tell that he made hate inorder to appreciate love? it's like saying that he made "wrong" inorder to know what is right? what's the point? so you say, don't question the wisdom of god? oh c'mon.

Do force yourself to be confused. He is a God of Justice, A God not a punching bag. It is not a conflict of his character it is intentionally omitting his other attributes and his attributes of Love and Justice is in perfectly Harmony.

Again why did these happen? This question has been avoided.
Justice and Love attribute explained
God is love since he would give people a chance decades, years and generations for them to repent and to believe in God no matter what their sin is. There are many more examples of God's love portrayed in the Bible.
Tell me if all murderers would rule the world would God allow that because he is a God of Love? What you misunderstood is his attributes of Justice.
Your understanding of God is intentionally unbalanced and I dont know what is the reason behind it.

another one: he is "all-knowing" - before anything happens, he already knows that it has to happen. so, how can there be bad or good when everything is according to his will. Well, if it's not, then why he let it to happen? Freedom? How can there be freedom when everything that has to happen, he already knew?

he knows all peoples desires but he doesn't control them. God knows a wicked persons thoughts and what he would do. We even know what murderers do.

God doesn't control peoples choices you have your own choice not to believe in God.
God knows the thoughts of wicked peoples but he continues to stop these people by appealing to them but not forcing them since God respects their freewill.
Wrong assumption #1
Murderer's thoughts and wicked peoples thoughts are God's will.

That is why there are some sinful people like those in jail who had been intervened by God and by their own choices accepted Gods intervention and they have repented their sins and continue to be guided by god from their stage of life and lived a happy life.

God wants us to Love him by our own choice not by force or like a robot. We are human beings we have choices not robots that are programed to love God. Human beings are intelligent that is why God even respects our intellect he shows us the results of wickedness and be able to discern them so we can make our choices.

Your opinions can be influenced by your environment. Maybe you are treated like a robot by someone? Since all you understand is that we don't have our own freewill?

Wrong assumption #2
God controls our choices.

We control our choice but not God. But God knows the outcome based on what we choose.

another one, "god is righteous" - according to the bible, he is the alpha and the omega. he created everything. where does the concept of right and wrong came from? if he created everything to be right, then there would be nothing in the universe but "all right".

Finally, I will say that when one scrutinize the bible to it's very core, take out all belief and fascinations at some moment and think deep and be rational. You will find out how the script has been manufactured.

Concept of rightneous is very easy, try to read the ten commandments.
The concept of God's rightneousnes results in love, order and peace. Law of physics can be attributed to God's design. everything is in harmony in the Bible, but I can say that its not for the people with low understanding. That why you have to study it.

Finally, I cant see anything wrong in the bible. If you don't study Bible then I can say that you don't believe in it. I understand; how can you believe the bible when you even don't study it? but when you scrutinize a book even without studying it then that means to say you are not credible enough to scrutinize it but I would respect your opinion about the Bible even without studying it.

[khuahn88]

di man siguro ni justice kini nga verse about just trying to make a laugh on Elisha.
2 Kings 2
23. From there Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some boys came out of the town and jeered at him. “Get out of here, baldy !” they said. “Get out of here, baldy !”
24. He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the LORD. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the boys. Tsk3x

[bearish]

God is love and God is also a God of Justice.
Justice is also his attribute.

I know what you are trying to emphasize here but unfortunately the things and thoughts you are presenting does not have weights on the matter at hand. You are just manufacturing the attributes of god. I won't question you on that because that is your choice and we have different opinion about that.

Do force yourself to be confused. He is a God of Justice, A God not a punching bag. It is not a conflict of his character it is intentionally omitting his other attributes and his attributes of Love and Justice is in perfectly Harmony.

Again why did these happen? This question has been avoided.
Justice and Love attribute explained
God is love since he would give people a chance decades, years and generations for them to repent and to believe in God no matter what their sin is. There are many more examples of God's love portrayed in the Bible.

Did god knew ever since that what he had created eventually won't believe in him? I presumed that he knew even before he created adam.
before he created a man, did he prepare a paddle because he knew that adam will eventually commit sin? can you see the logic behind this?

Tell me if all murderers would rule the world would God allow that because he is a God of Love? What you misunderstood is his attributes of Justice.
Your understanding of God is intentionally unbalanced and I dont know what is the reason behind it.

for sure god does not care about murderers. we people has to care for ourselves. as you can see, a lot of murderers are now ruling in some nations/countries. take a look at the ongoing wars around the world.

he knows all peoples desires but he doesn't control them. God knows a wicked persons thoughts and what he would do. We even know what murderers do.

God doesn't control peoples choices you have your own choice not to believe in God.
God knows the thoughts of wicked peoples but he continues to stop these people by appealing to them but not forcing them since God respects their freewill.

these are purely alibi because surely there is no god that interacts with the mankind. so you are just manufacturing these alibi's.

Wrong assumption #1
Murderer's thoughts and wicked peoples thoughts are God's will.

granting he is there, and he has the power to stop a man to become a murderer, why not he stopped him? why tolerate murder to happen? when you tolerate, then it's your will.

That is why there are some sinful people like those in jail who had been intervened by God and by their own choices accepted Gods intervention and they have repented their sins and continue to be guided by god from their stage of life and lived a happy life.

how did you know that they are intervened by god?

God wants us to Love him by our own choice not by force or like a robot. We are human beings we have choices not robots that are programed to love God. Human beings are intelligent that is why God even respects our intellect he shows us the results of wickedness and be able to discern them so we can make our choices.

Your opinions can be influenced by your environment. Maybe you are treated like a robot by someone? Since all you understand is that we don't have our own freewill?

again, as I stated above about love. did he knew, in the first place that there are people won't love him? why create them if that is a problem to him?

Wrong assumption #2
God controls our choices.

We control our choice but not God. But God knows the outcome based on what we choose.

so, he just allows us to make a wrong choice. because he knew anyway that he will make us going to suffer and he is happy seeing people suffer?

Concept of rightneous is very easy, try to read the ten commandments.
The concept of God's rightneousnes results in love, order and peace. Law of physics can be attributed to God's design. everything is in harmony in the Bible, but I can say that its not for the people with low understanding. That why you have to study it.

Finally, I cant see anything wrong in the bible. If you don't study Bible then I can say that you don't believe in it. I understand; how can you believe the bible when you even don't study it? but when you scrutinize a book even without studying it then that means to say you are not credible enough to scrutinize it but I would respect your opinion about the Bible even without studying it.

when you are reading a book of fairy tale and myths, and you accept them as true story, then that is your choice.

FYI: I have studied the bible and after reading it I am convinced that I don't have to believe in it.

[SioDenz]

FYI: I have studied the bible and after reading it I am convinced that I don't have to believe in it.

So are you an Atheist?

When did it occur to you that the Bible is Not true? before you read the Bible or after you read it?

[bearish]

So are you an Atheist?

When did it occur to you that the Bible is Not true? before you read the Bible or after you read it?

this is a bit funny. Are you trying to catch me with this question? It is clearly stated in my post, maybe you missed to read it properly.