***truth about jesus christ!

[WordofGod]

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a good question about why should we believe the bible

YouTube - Why the Bible? Ravi Zacharias at the University of Illinois

[WordofGod]

Is God Dead? a very logical explanation by one of the great philosophers of our time.
We are aware that there are some teachings today that will encourage you to become the god of your own life!

YouTube - Is God Dead? Ravi Zacharias Sermon Jam

[bearish]

He was the head of the Christian Church. His followers, those that were killed and martyred for their belief in HIM were called the Christians.

killed and martyred for their belief = THE CHRISTIANS.

not yet killed and martyred = ?

[bearish]

[I]I love this thread humbly spread the good news to the unbelieving world.

mura man ug usa ka ahente ba. daghan sales, dako commission.

[SioDenz]

bai, your question will be answered if you see him face to face on the judgment day!

YouTube - Why I'm not an atheist - Ravi Zacharias

You dont have Clue?

[nealotol]

depends upon religion,,, we have different religion,,

[d.a.m.a.s.o.]

tao, but not just an ordinary human since he is a representative of God. his divinity lies in his great love for God. not in his power.

He is our savior...not by dying on the cross...but by his instruction: that we should love God with all our heart, all our mind, and our entire being. Only then can we be free from sin. Nothing else.

Doesn't the Bible already answer that? And for one, I am not concerned with when HE came here or when HE is coming back. I am more concerned with following his instructions, that is to love God. You want to concern yourself with those details? Go ahead. You are wasting your time. Better to follow what he taught rather than concern yourself on such trivial matters. Which is more important, knowing when he came or following his instructions?

Nope hindi "Trivial" ang malaman kung kailan nag-exist si Jesus. The fact na naniniwala kang Tao si Kristo means you will fail to follow God's instructions. Just read what's in my avatar. Now tell me, will you trust a Jesus Christ which is "tao"?

Now, the reason why I asked you when Jesus existed because it will answer the question - "Tao ba si Kristo o Dios". Kung naniniwala ka na si Jesus nag-exist lang nung ipanganak ni Maria - then you failed. Magkasama na sila ng Dios Ama before pa ang creation ng lahat ng bagay.

Php 2:5 Mangagkaroon kayo sa inyo ng pagiisip, na ito'y na kay Cristo Jesus din naman:
Php 2:6 Na siya, bagama't nasa anyong Dios, ay hindi niya inaring isang bagay na nararapat panangnan ang pagkapantay niya sa Dios,
Php 2:7 Kundi bagkus hinubad niya ito, at naganyong alipin, na nakitulad sa mga tao:
Php 2:8 At palibhasa'y nasumpungan sa anyong tao, siya'y nagpakababa sa kaniyang sarili, na nagmasunurin hanggang sa kamatayan, oo, sa kamatayan sa krus.

Joh 1:1 Nang pasimula siya ang Verbo, at ang Verbo ay sumasa Dios, at ang Verbo ay Dios.
Joh 1:14 At nagkatawang-tao ang Verbo, at tumahan sa gitna natin (at nakita namin ang kaniyang kaluwalhatian, kaluwalhatian gaya ng sa bugtong ng Ama), na puspos ng biyaya at katotohanan.

Si Jesus ay Dios, Dios na nagkatawang-tao. Kailan siya nagkatawang tao? - Nong ipanganak siya ni Maria.

[WordofGod]

YouTube - Incredible Facts of The Bible (HD)

scientific facts that is found in the bible?

[Resurgence]

Nope hindi "Trivial" ang malaman kung kailan nag-exist si Jesus. The fact na naniniwala kang Tao si Kristo means you will fail to follow God's instructions. Just read what's in my avatar. Now tell me, will you trust a Jesus Christ which is "tao"?

Now, the reason why I asked you when Jesus existed because it will answer the question - "Tao ba si Kristo o Dios". Kung naniniwala ka na si Jesus nag-exist lang nung ipanganak ni Maria - then you failed. Magkasama na sila ng Dios Ama before pa ang creation ng lahat ng bagay.

Php 2:5 Mangagkaroon kayo sa inyo ng pagiisip, na ito'y na kay Cristo Jesus din naman:
Php 2:6 Na siya, bagama't nasa anyong Dios, ay hindi niya inaring isang bagay na nararapat panangnan ang pagkapantay niya sa Dios,
Php 2:7 Kundi bagkus hinubad niya ito, at naganyong alipin, na nakitulad sa mga tao:
Php 2:8 At palibhasa'y nasumpungan sa anyong tao, siya'y nagpakababa sa kaniyang sarili, na nagmasunurin hanggang sa kamatayan, oo, sa kamatayan sa krus.

Joh 1:1 Nang pasimula siya ang Verbo, at ang Verbo ay sumasa Dios, at ang Verbo ay Dios.
Joh 1:14 At nagkatawang-tao ang Verbo, at tumahan sa gitna natin (at nakita namin ang kaniyang kaluwalhatian, kaluwalhatian gaya ng sa bugtong ng Ama), na puspos ng biyaya at katotohanan.

Si Jesus ay Dios, Dios na nagkatawang-tao. Kailan siya nagkatawang tao? - Nong ipanganak siya ni Maria.

And your point is? Fail? Why did I fail? I am following Jesus' first and foremost commandment. That is to love God with all my heart, all my mind, my entire being. Do you even know that THAT was his first and foremost commandment? And did I say that he EXISTED only when he was BORN? I know for a fact that he already EXISTED before he came to this world. So why all the hub bub?

Your argument is full of word jugglery, no definite answer to my question. Jesus Christ said HE was SENT here (John 5:37). Does God have to send himself here to save mankind? I DON'T THINK SO. Common Sense bro. Since when does God have to be under material nature? If you are God, you don't have any equal nor is anyone superior to you. Jesus Christ is a confidential servant of God, that I agree. To claim that he is God the Father, no I don't think so. As I have said previously, his divinity lies in the fact that he is a MASTER at the art of loving the Supreme Lord, not in his power. You folks always dwell on the part that he was able to heal the sick, etc. I don't. There have been many charlatans who have been able to do amazing things, but never teach love for God. What I do is listen to what Jesus' FIRST and FOREMOST commandment IS , and that is "Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind." (Matt. 22:37)

My question was: which is more important? His instructions or his "lineage" or whatever. Did you answer that? No. You just used word jugglery. It is not answering my question. And with that, I dismiss whatever you say.

And since you dwell on his birth specifics, then answer this: "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." (Matt. 7: 21-23). You are so concerned with Jesus' divinity, lineage, birth, etc. Do you think that Jesus would care where he was born or what? Or would he place more importance on his instructions, which was to LOVE GOD?

[d.a.m.a.s.o.]

And your point is? Fail? Why did I fail? I am following Jesus' first and foremost commandment. That is to love God with all my heart, all my mind, my entire being. Do you even know that THAT was his first and foremost commandment?

I have nothing against this.

And did I say that he EXISTED only when he was BORN? I know for a fact that he already EXISTED before he came to this world. So why all the hub bub?
There, you mentioned before na TAO si Jesus. Now, papaano mong sasabihin na he existed before he came to the world? May TAO bang ganun? --- this is the only reason why I am questioning you.

Your argument is full of word jugglery, no definite answer to my question.
What question?

Jesus Christ said HE was SENT here (John 5:37). Does God have to send himself here to save mankind? I DON'T THINK SO. Common Sense bro. Since when does God have to be under material nature?

God the Father sent his son Jesus (which is also God) here on earth in a human form.

If you are God, you don't have any equal nor is anyone superior to you. Jesus Christ is a confidential servant of God, that I agree. To claim that he is God the Father, no I don't think so.

Ok. I did not say Jesus is God the Father. What I said was Jesus is also a God. Dios pero nagkatawang-tao dito sa lupa.

As I have said previously, his divinity lies in the fact that he is a MASTER at the art of loving the Supreme Lord, not in his power. You folks always dwell on the part that he was able to heal the sick, etc. I don't. There have been many charlatans who have been able to do amazing things, but never teach love for God. What I do is listen to what Jesus' FIRST and FOREMOST commandment IS , and that is "Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind." (Matt. 22:37)

My question was: which is more important? His instructions or his "lineage" or whatever. Did you answer that? No. You just used word jugglery. It is not answering my question. And with that, I dismiss whatever you say.

I am sorry but I cannot see any post of you asking me that question. And I don't think I belong in your "You folks always dwell.." You can never quote me on it.

And since you dwell on his birth specifics, then answer this: "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." (Matt. 7: 21-23). You are so concerned with Jesus' divinity, lineage, birth, etc. Do you think that Jesus would care where he was born or what? Or would he place more importance on his instructions, which was to LOVE GOD?

Who said I am more concerned about his birth? I was just asking you when he started to exists in this world. But you already answered it, and you said he existed before he came to this world. (which of course CONTRADICTS your belief that Jesus is a man.)