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    Jesus is only one who has the power to resurrect the dead! He is the only one who also has the power to freed us from the slavery of sin! He is our mighty saviour!!!

    YouTube - Ravi Zacharias - The Existence of God - Jesus Revealing God

  2. #152

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    Quote Originally Posted by d.a.m.a.s.o. View Post
    Kung tao si Kristo (or extra-ordinary na Tao sabi mo) Kelan siya napunta sa lupa? Noong ipinanganak ba siya ni Maria?
    Doesn't the Bible already answer that? And for one, I am not concerned with when HE came here or when HE is coming back. I am more concerned with following his instructions, that is to love God. You want to concern yourself with those details? Go ahead. You are wasting your time. Better to follow what he taught rather than concern yourself on such trivial matters. Which is more important, knowing when he came or following his instructions?

  3. #153

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    yup. what matters most are the things that we did that pleases him.

  4. #154

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    Quote Originally Posted by SioDenz View Post
    kay dinhi nman siya sa una bro, mao bitaw nang sa Bibliya. Mao atu nsad chance para ma spread ang word of God.

    Tua na sa langit si Kristo, layo nya kalas plete if magbalik balik pa siya mao iyang gibilin iyang mga teachings naa sa bibliya. Ig balik niya kuyog iyang amahan kaisa nlan nya wa nay instruction ihatag ana panahuna FINAL EXAM na diretso.
    A lot of people are doing the "spreading" already. But very few are actually following Jesus' instructions.

  5. #155

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    usa ra jud ang kristiano.........................ang katong namatay sa kros...............

  6. #156

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    He was the head of the Christian Church. His followers, those that were killed and martyred for their belief in HIM were called the Christians.

  7. #157

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    dude, seriously, stop preaching.

    this is not a religious forum. go find other avenues to spread the "word of God", and while you're at it, convince other people that it is his ACTUAL word and not made up by some hallucinating sham.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Resurgence View Post
    bro, kasabot ka unsay pasabot sa word "God"? God is someone who has no equal or is anyong superior to him. How can God become Man and be under the laws of material nature if he is God? And again, the word SENT bro. Naay nagpadala nya dri. Jesus mentioned in clear words ha, You have not seen my Father's shape or form. Yet the people saw Jesus' shape or form when he spoke those words. Unsa pman angay study.han ana? Ka klaro na ana pgka.storyaha. Wa kakita ang mga tao sa porma sa Ginoo bsag si Jesus naa sa ilang atubangan nga nisulti ana. God does love us that he did send his Son to save us, by teaching how to love him and be happy, not by dying on the cross. If that was his original purpose, that verse would say " For God so loved the World that he sent his own Son to be crucified so that the world's sins would be erased." Would you, as a Father, be happy if I crucified your son and say that it is a "sacrifice" to your honor?

    Your theories are no different from the impersonalists of India, who say that God forgot he is God and falls down to this material world. God then needs to meditate on himself to remember he is God and transcend the wheel of birth and death.

    God is God, he is called God because he holds dominion over all, with no equal or superior in power. God can and will never be subject to his own laws. What you are doing is limiting his potency and power.

    If you are saying Jesus came here to give his life for many, then I agree. But he did not give his life just so he could be crucified. If he had done so, what was the purpose for him to say that his first and foremost commandment is "that we love God with all our heart, all our mind, our entire being"? If his first commandment was to crucify him in order to release us from our sins, he would have SAID so. But he didn't.

    And regarding Thomas saying that Jesus is God, Jesus is God in a sense because he is the MASTER at the art of Loving the Supreme Lord, not God the Supreme Controller. He is God the Servant, not God the Master. Who else better at knowing how to render loving service to the Supreme Lord than his representative?

    "And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth(Matt. 28:1." He was given power over Heaven and Earth, question is: who gave him that power?

    And regarding your claim that only God has the power to forgive sins, then you are no different from the Pharisees that said that only God has the power to forgive sins, thereby denying Jesus' authority. A true servant of God has the power to forgive sins, since he/she is doing the will of the Supreme Lord without expecting anything in return.
    Quote Originally Posted by Resurgence View Post
    bro, kasabot ka unsay pasabot sa word "God"? God is someone who has no equal or is anyong superior to him. How can God become Man and be under the laws of material nature if he is God? And again, the word SENT bro. Naay nagpadala nya dri. Jesus mentioned in clear words ha, You have not seen my Father's shape or form. Yet the people saw Jesus' shape or form when he spoke those words. Unsa pman angay study.han ana? Ka klaro na ana pgka.storyaha. Wa kakita ang mga tao sa porma sa Ginoo bsag si Jesus naa sa ilang atubangan nga nisulti ana. God does love us that he did send his Son to save us, by teaching how to love him and be happy, not by dying on the cross. If that was his original purpose, that verse would say " For God so loved the World that he sent his own Son to be crucified so that the world's sins would be erased." Would you, as a Father, be happy if I crucified your son and say that it is a "sacrifice" to your honor?

    Your theories are no different from the impersonalists of India, who say that God forgot he is God and falls down to this material world. God then needs to meditate on himself to remember he is God and transcend the wheel of birth and death.

    God is God, he is called God because he holds dominion over all, with no equal or superior in power. God can and will never be subject to his own laws. What you are doing is limiting his potency and power.

    If you are saying Jesus came here to give his life for many, then I agree. But he did not give his life just so he could be crucified. If he had done so, what was the purpose for him to say that his first and foremost commandment is "that we love God with all our heart, all our mind, our entire being"? If his first commandment was to crucify him in order to release us from our sins, he would have SAID so. But he didn't.

    And regarding Thomas saying that Jesus is God, Jesus is God in a sense because he is the MASTER at the art of Loving the Supreme Lord, not God the Supreme Controller. He is God the Servant, not God the Master. Who else better at knowing how to render loving service to the Supreme Lord than his representative?

    "And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth(Matt. 28:1." He was given power over Heaven and Earth, question is: who gave him that power?

    And regarding your claim that only God has the power to forgive sins, then you are no different from the Pharisees that said that only God has the power to forgive sins, thereby denying Jesus' authority. A true servant of God has the power to forgive sins, since he/she is doing the will of the Supreme Lord without expecting anything in return.

    Part your not addressing St. John's belief that Jesus is God when he mentioned about "logos" or word". Ngano si John motuo nga si Jesus God nya kaw dili?

    You qouted st. John's gospel but clearly you don't understand the prolouge of his writings. Clearly your just inventing your idea or philosophy of what God is but you don't based it to the bible. I would say your just inventing your own God., not the God of history.

    If you study history and bible the Gospel of St. John was written as a response to the heretics at that time. These Heretics didnt believe that Christ is God . These groups were Ebionites, Cerinthus, and other Hebrew groups. Nganong nakaingon ko nga wa nimo na examine ang gospel ni John using the proper context (historical/grammatical context). Ang nahitabo ni identify o nituo ka sa teaching sa mga heretics. Cleary imong gibuhat is your own interpretation. I woud say that your not a christian and your belief is similar to Islam.

    Part ikaw ni imong gi sulti "What you are doing is limiting his potency and power" . Ngano man? kay ang Ginoo wala bay capability nga mag pakatawo according to you. kay according to your logic God is someone who has no equal or is anyong superior to him ug naay nag padala. So dili mabuhat sa Ginoo nga mag pakatawo para sa katawhan? kay dili masulod sa imo logic kay accordigng to you "naay nag padala sa iyaha" mao ang Father. Now your just putting God in your own logic and aside from that sukwahi sa Gospel ni John nga si Kristo mao ang logos.Wala nimo ni gi address ang kontexto kundi nag buhat kag imohang definition sa God nga sukwahi sa Gospel ni John.

    And regarding Thomas saying that Jesus is God, Jesus is God in a sense because he is the MASTER at the art of Loving the Supreme Lord, not God the Supreme Controller. He is God the Servant, not God the Master. Who else better at knowing how to render loving service to the Supreme Lord than his representative?
    You even use the capitalized word "God" . According to you "Jesus is God in a sense because he is the MASTER at the art of Loving the Supreme Lord, not God the Supreme Controller" Part sayop ka kay sa ilaha tradition o pagtuo sa mga hebrew nga ang God o El is referring to almighty God, or supreme being. Part sometime they call God as elohim before as plural from Eloa kini nag pasabot nga one God sa tulo ka persona (trinitarian). Ang misteryo sa trinity dili dayag sa bible part but kung imo ireconcile ang bibliya makit- an nimo ang point sa sypnoptic Gospel nga Jesus is God. Mismo gani ang early church Father nga sumusonod ni John after sya namatay believe nga si Jesus is God. They have very clear message sa ila writing nga Jesus is God like ST. Augustine of Hippo.

    Kini nag pasabot nga ang girefer ni Thomas the doubter mao ang Supreme Being sa John 20:28. Now gi rebuke ba ni Jesus na nga di sya Ginoo?
    Gibuyag ba ni Jesus si Thomas nga siya di Ginoo sa pag ingon niya nga my lord and my God?

    Now Kinsa nato ang wala naka sabot sa word "God" based on John's Gospel?

  9. #159

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    [I]I love this thread humbly spread the good news to the unbelieving world.

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    Life is more fulfilling when we have Jesus in our lives!

    YouTube - Atheist Satanism exposed by a true Christian philosopher Ravi Zacharias

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