Biblical Fact: Who killed more people in the Bible

[treize]

Yet you haven't answered my question? Let me rephrase it..

Do you think you are worthy for salvation or to be spared? Do you think mankind is worthy for salvation?

[darkdevil]

Biblical Fact: Who killed more people in the Bible kay sayop...

dapat

Biblical Fact : Bible is good business

[khuahn88]

Yet you haven't answered my question? Let me rephrase it..

Do you think you are worthy for salvation or to be spared? Do you think mankind is worthy for salvation?

oi oi oi oi i forgot u.hehe! youre goin too far from the topic ey mate?? What if i will tell you..
1. "yes! becoz im awesome and im great and w/o a sin since birth.hehe"
2. "I dunno? Do they?"hehe
ok, im goin to rest na, bye bye!1

[TheInfidel]

"Which Holy Book has killed more people in the past 2 millenniums" would also be a good thing to discuss.

[treize]

oi oi oi oi i forgot u.hehe! youre goin too far from the topic ey mate?? What if i will tell you..
1. "yes! becoz im awesome and im great and w/o a sin since birth.hehe"
2. "I dunno? Do they?"hehe
ok, im goin to rest na, bye bye!1

Well then I rest my case.. no more futher questions your honor..

[Kenshiro]

@malic hmm..mao jud.hehe. pero kung "god loves us" dapat iya unta tong gilikay ang mga inosenting bata sa mga kamot ni herodes.. why? why? why? kalooy intawn...
annihilation of jews?, hitler? nero? wa mana sa bible tawn oi..
@necro oi! ikaw ray hinungdan nganung na OT ta diri.hehe
@malic wala lang, simple tally lang. just a share...hehe

God is a God of Justice. Although he is extremely merciful but his mercy has limits. That is what is one of his characteristics of God as described in the Bible. He is very merciful like generations, decades and years of mercy.
God character also demand justice.

If you want somebody who is unreasonably merciful doesn't fight back, stupid then maybe that is a punching bag that you are reffering to.
But its ok you can perceive God as a punching bag or want him to be a punching bag then that is your own opinion and I can say that is not biblical or not based in the bible.

[cromagnon]

Dawkins' book, "The God Delusion",

Quote:
The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a mysogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomanical, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.

[Kenshiro]

Dawkins' book, "The God Delusion",

Quote:
The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a mysogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomanical, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.

Well this is what the Character of God portrayed in the Bible.

Here is the Characteristics of God in the Bible

Incommunicable Attributes

These are those aspects of God which we don't share with Him, and are likely to have trouble comprehending. However, as you read these, try thinking about what each attribute means to you, as someone in a relationship with God. For example, the first, Independance, tells me that even though He doesn't need me, He chooses me to live in a relationship with Him. That's pretty amazing!

Independent/Transcendant

God does not need any of His creation for any reason, but we (and other creation) can please and glorify Him.

* "God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: `I AM has sent me to you.'"" (Ex. 3:14)
* "The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by hands. And he is not served by human hands, as if he needed anything, because he himself gives all men life and breath and everything else." (Acts 17:24-25)
* "As a young man marries a maiden, so will your sons marry you; as a bridegroom rejoices over his bride, so will your God rejoice over you." (Is. 62:5)

Unchangeable

God does not change in any way, and although he always acts in proper response to every aspect of His nature.

For example, Though He may have seemed more loving in sending Christ and more wrath-filled in preparing for Judgement Day, in every way He acts, He is always true to every aspect of His character simultaneously. His love is shown more prominently in sending Christ, to be sure, but He was not acting counter to His very real hatred of sin in sending Christ. In fact His hatred of sin (wrath) together with His complete justice and love prompted Him to send Christ.

Similarly, the Day of Judgement seems to show the wrath-filled aspect of God most prominently, but it too is a balance of all His attributes - his justice and wrath (hatred of sin) demands that a Day of Judgement occur, His love and mercy demand that He give ample opportunity for people to repent, hence Judgement Day is set sometime in the future.

* "In the beginning you laid the foundations of the earth, and the heavens are the work of your hands. They will perish, but you remain; they will all wear out like a garment. Like clothing you will change them and they will be discarded. But you remain the same, and your years will never end." (Psalm 102:25-27)
* "I the LORD do not change. So you, O descendants of Jacob, are not destroyed." Malachi 3:6

Eternal

There was no time when God was not. He has no beginning or end, and does not live "in" time as we do: He sees all time equally yet discerns the place of events in time, and acts at specific points in time.

* "Before the mountains were born or you brought forth the earth and the world, from everlasting to everlasting you are God." (Ps. 90:2)
* "'I am the Alpha and the Omega,' says the Lord God, 'who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.'" (Rev. 1:
* "But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day." (1 Pet. 3:

Omnipresent (is everywhere)

God does not have size or shape that can be measured. He exists everywhere but can and does act in different ways in different places.

* "To the LORD your God belong the heavens, even the highest heavens, the earth and everything in it." (Deuteronomy 10:14)
* "'Am I only a God nearby,' declares the LORD, 'and not a God far away? Can anyone hide in secret places so that I cannot see him?' declares the LORD. 'Do not I fill heaven and earth?' declares the LORD." (Jeremiah 23:23-24)

Communicable Attributes

Spiritual

God is a being that is not made of matter, has no parts or dimensions and cannot be perceived by any of our bodily senses.

* "God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth." (John 4:24)
* "Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever. Amen." (1 Tim. 1:17)
* "No one has ever seen God, but God the One and Only, who is at the Father's side, has made him known." (John 1:1

Omniscient (all-knowing)

God is perfect in knowledge: He knows all things simply and perfectly.

* "For God is greater than our hearts, and he knows everything." (1 John 3:20)
* "All the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be." (Psalm 139:16)

Wise

In all circumstances and situations, God knows best.

* "To God belong wisdom and power; counsel and understanding are his." (Job 12:13)
* "Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable his judgments, and his paths beyond tracing out!" (Rom. 11:33)

Truthful & Faithful

Not only is God the true God, but His words and knowledge are true, and are in fact the standard by which truth is judged.

* "...a faith and knowledge resting on the hope of eternal life, which God, who does not lie, promised before the beginning of time..." (Titus 1:2)
* "God did this so that, by two unchangeable things in which it is impossible for God to lie, we who have fled to take hold of the hope offered to us may be greatly encouraged." (Heb. 6:1

Good

Again, God not only is good, but is the standard for goodness.

* "'Why do you call me good?' Jesus answered. 'No one is good - except God alone.'"(Luke 18:19)
* "For the LORD is good and his love endures forever; his faithfulness continues through all generations." (Ps. 100:5)

Loving

God's love means that He continually gives of Himself to others

* "...God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in him." (1 John 4:16)
* "But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us." (Rom. 5:

Merciful

God is good towards those in misery and distress

* "The LORD, the LORD, the compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness..." (Ex. 34:6)
* "Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of compassion and the God of all comfort..." (2 Cor. 1:3)

Graceful

God is good towards those who don't deserve good.

* "...for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus." (Rom. 3:23-24)
* "And the God of all grace, who called you to his eternal glory in Christ, after you have suffered a little while, will himself restore you and make you strong, firm and steadfast." (1 Pet. 5:10)

Patient

God is 'slow to anger'

* "The LORD is compassionate and gracious, slow to anger, abounding in love." (Ps. 103:
* "But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his unlimited patience as an example for those who would believe on him and receive eternal life." (1 Tim. 1:16)

Holy

God is separate from sin.

* "Holy, holy, holy is the LORD Almighty; the whole earth is full of his glory." (Is. 6:3)
* "Exalt the LORD our God and worship at his holy mountain, for the LORD our God is holy." (Ps. 99:9)
* "Be holy because I, the LORD your God, am holy." (Lev. 19:2)

Wrathful

God hates sin and indeed cannot not hate sin, for He is holy.

* "'I have seen these people,' the LORD said to Moses, 'and they are a stiff-necked people. Now leave me alone so that my anger may burn against them and that I may destroy them. Then I will make you into a great nation.'" (Ex. 32:9-10)
* "Remember this and never forget how you provoked the LORD your God to anger in the desert. From the day you left Egypt until you arrived here, you have been rebellious against the LORD. At Horeb you aroused the LORD's wrath so that he was angry enough to destroy you." (Deut. 9:7-
* "Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him." (John 3:36)

Peaceful

God is separate from all confusion and disorder.

* "For God is not a God of disorder but of peace." (1 Cor. 14:33)
* "The God of peace be with you all. Amen." (Rom. 15:33)

Righteous and Just

God is always totally fair and everything that He does is just and right.

* "He is the Rock, his works are perfect, and all his ways are just. A faithful God who does no wrong, upright and just is he." (Deut. 32:4)
* "I have not spoken in secret, from somewhere in a land of darkness; I have not said to Jacob's descendants, `Seek me in vain.' I, the LORD, speak the truth; I declare what is right." (Is. 45:19)

Jealous

God seeks continually to protect His own honour.

* "You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments." (Ex. 20:5-6)
* "Do not worship any other god, for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God." (Ex. 34:14)

Perfect

God possesses all good qualities and does not lack any, nor does He have any qualities that are not good.

* "Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect." (Matt. 5:4
* "As for God, his way is perfect; the word of the LORD is flawless. He is a shield for all who take refuge in him." (Ps. 18:30)

Beautiful

God in His being is the sum of all desirable qualities.

* "One thing I ask of the LORD, this is what I seek: that I may dwell in the house of the LORD all the days of my life, to gaze upon the beauty of the LORD and to seek him in his temple." (Ps. 27:4)

Glory-filled

"God's glory is the created brightness that surrounds God's revelation of Himself" (definition from Grudem, Sys. Theol., p. 220).

* "...for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God." (Rom. 3:23)
* "Who is he, this King of glory? The LORD Almighty - he is the King of glory." (Ps. 24:10)

These are taken from the bible while Dawkins its his opinion, his stand and belief and most importantly his opinions aren't completely biblical.

[Kenshiro]

What are some of the characteristics of god, say in genesis. I mean he does so many different things. But what are the most significant is Genesis? What type of god is he?

The following is a quote from my Bible Encyclopedia.

God may be described in terms of attributes. An attribute is an inherent characteristic of a person or being. While we cannot describe God in a comprehensive way, we can learn about Him by examining His attributes as revealed in the Bible. The first group is known as the natural attributes of God.

God Is Spirit. Jesus taught that "God is Spirit" (John 4:24). God has no body, no physical or measurable form. Thus, God is invisible. He became visible in human form in the person of Jesus Christ, but His essence is invisible.

God Is Changeless. Progress and change may characterize some of His works, but God Himself remains unchanged (Heb 1:12). He does not change; otherwise, He would not be perfect. Thus, what we know of God can be known with certainty. He is not different from one time to another.

God Is All Powerful. God's power is unlimited. He can do anything that is not inconsistent with His nature, character, and purpose (Gen 17:1; 18:14). The only limitations on God's power are imposed by Himself (Gen 18:25). "Impossible" is not in God's vocabulary. God creates and sustains all things; yet He never grows weary (Isa 40:27-31).

God Is All Knowing. God possesses all knowledge (Job 38:39; Rom 11:33-36). Because God is everywhere at one and the same time, He knows everything simultaneously. That God has the power to know the thoughts and motives of every heart is evident from many Scripture passages, notably Job 37:16; Ps 147:5, and Heb 3:13.

God Is Everywhere. God is not confined to any part of the universe but is present in all His power at every point in space and every moment in time (Ps 139:7-12). Thus, God does not belong to any one nation or generation. He is the God of all the earth (Gen 18:25).

God Is Eternal. Eternity refers to God's relation to time. Past, present, and future are known equally to Him (2 Peter 3:8; Rev 1:. Time is like a parade that man sees only a segment at a time. But God sees time in its entirety. The second group of attributes is called moral attributes. These refer to God's character, His essential nature.

God Is Holy. The word holy comes from a root word that means "to separate." Thus, it refers to God as separated from or exalted above other things (Isa 6:1-3). Holiness refers to God's moral excellence. Being holy, God demands holiness in His own children. And what He demands, He supplies. Holiness is God's gift that we receive by faith through His Son, Jesus Christ (Eph 4:24).

God Is Righteous. Righteousness as applied to God refers to His affirmation of what is right as opposed to what is wrong. The righteousness of God refers to His moral laws laid down to guide the conduct of humankind, as in the Ten Commandments. Righteousness also refers to God's administration of justice. He brings punishment upon the disobedient (Gen 18:25; Deut 32:4; Rom 2:6-16). Finally, God's righteousness is redemptive. In the Book of Romans the righteousness of God refers to God declaring the believer to be in a state of righteousness as though he had never been unrighteous (Rom 1:16-17; 3:24-26). This is possible because of the sacrificial death of Jesus on our behalf.

God Is Love. Love is the essential, self-giving nature of God. God's love for man seeks to awaken a responsive love of man for God. Divine love runs like a golden thread through the entire Bible. Nature is eloquent with the skill, wisdom, and power of God. Only in the Bible, however, do we discover God giving Himself and all He possesses to His creatures, in order to win their response and to possess them for Himself. God loved and gave; He loved and sought-just as a shepherd seeks his sheep. God loved and suffered, providing His love by giving His all on the cross for the redemption of humanity. God, in His love, wills good for all His creatures (Gen 1:31; Ps 145:9; Mark 10:1.

God Is Truth. All truth, whether natural, physical, or religious, is grounded in God. Thus, any seemingly inconsistent teaching between natural and physical sciences and God's revelation of Himself is more apparent than real. Truth is magnified in an absolute way through God's revelation.

God Is Wisdom. God's wisdom is revealed in His doing the best thing, in the best way, at the best time for the best purpose. Some people have knowledge, but little wisdom, while the most wise at times have little knowledge. But God is "the only wise God" (1 Tim 1:17). In creation, history, human lives, redemption, and Christ, His divine wisdom is revealed. Man, lacking wisdom, can claim God's wisdom simply by asking (1 Kings 3:9; James 1:5).

The believer's understanding of God continues to increase throughout his earthly pilgrimage. It will finally be complete in eternity when he stands in the presence of God.

[Resurgence]

Dawkins' book, "The God Delusion",

Quote:
The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a mysogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomanical, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.

That's because he is limiting his view of God on just the Bible. As if God's description, characteristics, glories, etc., can be contained in one book alone.