***truth about jesus christ!

[kit_cebu]

---

^santopaps/blutors!!!! kumusta!!! hhahahahaha

[sime777]

anti iglesia ni christo d ay ka bro?? hehehe peace sa taga INC...

[Resurgence]

@Resurgence



Thomas has every right to say that Jesus is his lord but how about the word my God? Why didn't you include it? Does he have right to say it too?



This is common mistake if you do not study the whole context of John's Gospel. In fact John's introduction put more emphasis on the word "Logos" or "Word" as he explicitly mentioned that Jesus is the incarnation of the logos.

The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only,[a] who came from the Father, full of grace and truth. John testifies concerning him. He cries out, saying, "This was he of whom I said, 'He who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.

Now let us further examine it;

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it

Part tan awa ayo ang "word" or "Logos" mao ray meaning. Even St. John said that the Logos or the word is Jesus.


As the Logos, Jesus Christ is God in self-revelation and redemption . He is God to the extent that he can be present to man and knowable to man. The Logos is God,[Jn 1:1] . Yet the Logos is in some sense distinguishable from God, for "the Logos was with God."[Jn 1:1] God and the Logos are not two beings, and yet they are also not simply identical. ... The Logos is God active in creation, revelation, and redemption.

Tan awa part mao nay purpose sa imong gisulte nga key word nga sent. Kay gipadala sya para moluwas sa kasal anan. Now naa bay tawo lamang nga makaluwas sa sala sa kalibutan. Even the bible tells us that The reason Jesus came to Earth was to give his life as a "ransom." - (Mat 20:28 "even as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many.

"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life." - John 3:16. Now examine the word "logos" again that Jesus is really a God in the flesh.

Nganong si John motuo nga si Jesus maoy God nya ikaw dili?

bro, kasabot ka unsay pasabot sa word "God"? God is someone who has no equal or is anyong superior to him. How can God become Man and be under the laws of material nature if he is God? And again, the word SENT bro. Naay nagpadala nya dri. Jesus mentioned in clear words ha, You have not seen my Father's shape or form. Yet the people saw Jesus' shape or form when he spoke those words. Unsa pman angay study.han ana? Ka klaro na ana pgka.storyaha. Wa kakita ang mga tao sa porma sa Ginoo bsag si Jesus naa sa ilang atubangan nga nisulti ana. God does love us that he did send his Son to save us, by teaching how to love him and be happy, not by dying on the cross. If that was his original purpose, that verse would say " For God so loved the World that he sent his own Son to be crucified so that the world's sins would be erased." Would you, as a Father, be happy if I crucified your son and say that it is a "sacrifice" to your honor?

Your theories are no different from the impersonalists of India, who say that God forgot he is God and falls down to this material world. God then needs to meditate on himself to remember he is God and transcend the wheel of birth and death.

God is God, he is called God because he holds dominion over all, with no equal or superior in power. God can and will never be subject to his own laws. What you are doing is limiting his potency and power.

If you are saying Jesus came here to give his life for many, then I agree. But he did not give his life just so he could be crucified. If he had done so, what was the purpose for him to say that his first and foremost commandment is "that we love God with all our heart, all our mind, our entire being"? If his first commandment was to crucify him in order to release us from our sins, he would have SAID so. But he didn't.

And regarding Thomas saying that Jesus is God, Jesus is God in a sense because he is the MASTER at the art of Loving the Supreme Lord, not God the Supreme Controller. He is God the Servant, not God the Master. Who else better at knowing how to render loving service to the Supreme Lord than his representative?

"And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth(Matt. 28:1." He was given power over Heaven and Earth, question is: who gave him that power?

And regarding your claim that only God has the power to forgive sins, then you are no different from the Pharisees that said that only God has the power to forgive sins, thereby denying Jesus' authority. A true servant of God has the power to forgive sins, since he/she is doing the will of the Supreme Lord without expecting anything in return.

[pantaleon]

Jesus excels above every other religious figures! compare him to mohamed, vishnu, buddha..etc. No other man like him who ever walked on this earth!

He was given a name above every name that in his name every knee shall bow and confess that he is Lord and the Saviour of all!

[MERGED] Atheism and Atheists Views: 100,022
Posted By santopaps
Re: [MERGED] Atheism and Atheists

Tell me a religious figure whose claims and teachings paralleled with his deeds?

-krishna
-buddha
-vishnu
-mohammed

try to study the life of the LORD Jesus Christ and see what he claims...


Klaro kaayo ka na si Santopaps! Hahahahaha!!!

Pro OK rana dili naka namo hilabtan! Promise! Free naka,dili ta naka hilabtan!

[Resurgence]

[MERGED] Atheism and Atheists Views: 100,022
Posted By santopaps
Re: [MERGED] Atheism and Atheists

Tell me a religious figure whose claims and teachings paralleled with his deeds?

-krishna
-buddha
-vishnu
-mohammed

try to study the life of the LORD Jesus Christ and see what he claims...


Klaro kaayo ka na si Santopaps! Hahahahaha!!!

Pro OK rana dili naka namo hilabtan! Promise! Free naka,dili ta naka hilabtan!

mao lgeh...fanatic jud ....can't see the broad picture.

[Resurgence]

Jesus excels above every other religious figures! compare him to mohamed, vishnu, buddha..etc. No other man like him who ever walked on this earth!

He was given a name above every name that in his name every knee shall bow and confess that he is Lord and the Saviour of all!

Oo lgeh. . But there are other figures that have done wondrous deeds as well. .

[Resurgence]

Sa mga fanatics pa dha, here's a song for you folks.

Well, I was walking down the road one day
Lost, you might say
When a fellow leapt upon me and said just that
"You're lost, you know, but you can be saved
Just follow me, I'll pave the way"
Well, I wasn't digging his vibe
So I just tried to sneak on by
All of a sudden he grabbed me, and lo!
He was trying to drag me to a sacred temple
Well, I tried to relax but I was slightly freaked
Being pulled down the sidewalk, skidding on my feet
All of a sudden a big spaceship appeared
With a sign over the door that said "Saved Ones Enter Here"
(For inspection, I presumed)
Well, he jumped right aboard and dragged me in there too
But when I got in, it felt just like a zoo

So I jumped out the door just in the nick of time
And landed in a big yellow holy bus — the Holy Bus Line
Well, these folks became very excited as they praised the Lord for saving me
They told me that the people in the spaceship were demons from the other team
They showed me off to everyone just like I was their prize
A soul they had saved from the other guys
Well, I wasn't really digging their sticky vibes
Like sugar candy or the stuff in the eyes
So I just tried to politely say goodbye
But a dude grabbed me by the neck and squeezed and told me to see the Son
Well, I was seeing stars, but I figured they was baby suns
So I squeaked out, "I see 'em! I see 'em!" and he jumped for joy
Both our heads hit the top of the bus
He died, they cried, and I split

Dear fanatic, take it easy
Stop pounding on my brain
Dear fanatic, take it easy
You're making me go insane
Take your knife from my throat
Get your gun off my back
Stop taking money from my pocket
Get your hand off my head
Dear fanatic, take it easy
Stop pushing me around
Dear fanatic, take it easy
You're the craziest guy in town
Dear fanatic, take it easy
You come on like a machine
Dear fanatic, take it easy
You just about make me scream

Well, I'm walking back on down the road
And ran into a man who looked like a toad
He wore a giant Colgate toothpaste smile
And he stared in my eyes for a little while
Then he shoved a picture of his guru in my face
And screamed in my ear, "You've got no faith!
You must fear the Lord!" he said to me
"Fear the Lord and you'll be free!"
But when I said I'd just like to be God's friend
He pulled out his sword to do me in
Screaming that his God I did offend

Well, before I knew it, my leg had kicked
Just like they do in the kung fu flicks
Well, I left that scene when the crowd screamed
That a holy man had just been creamed

Dear fanatic, take it easy
Stop pounding on my brain
Dear fanatic, take it easy
You're making me go insane
Take your knife from my throat
Get your gun off my back
Stop taking money from my pocket
Get your hand off my head
Dear fanatic, take it easy
Stop pushing me around
Dear fanatic, take it easy
You're the craziest guy in town
Dear fanatic, take it easy
You come on like a machine
Dear fanatic, take it easy
You just about make me scream

Dear fanatic, take it easy
Stop pounding on my brain
Dear fanatic, take it easy
You're making me go insane
Take your knife from my throat
Get your gun off my back
Stop taking money from my pocket
Get your hand off my head
Dear fanatic, take it easy
Stop pushing me around
Dear fanatic, take it easy
You're the craziest guy in town
Take your knife from my throat
Get your gun off my back
Stop taking money from my pocket
Get your hand off my head
Dear fanatic, take it easy
You don't own my soul
Dear fanatic, take it easy
God's still in control, don't worry!
Dear fanatic, take it easy
You come on like a machine
Dear fanatic, take it easy
You just about make me scream
Dear fanatic, take it easy
Stop eating out my brain
Dear fanatic, take it easy
You're making me go insane

[d.a.m.a.s.o.]

bro, kasabot ka unsay pasabot sa word "God"? God is someone who has no equal or is anyong superior to him. How can God become Man and be under the laws of material nature if he is God? And again, the word SENT bro. Naay nagpadala nya dri. Jesus mentioned in clear words ha, You have not seen my Father's shape or form. Yet the people saw Jesus' shape or form when he spoke those words. Unsa pman angay study.han ana? Ka klaro na ana pgka.storyaha. Wa kakita ang mga tao sa porma sa Ginoo bsag si Jesus naa sa ilang atubangan nga nisulti ana. God does love us that he did send his Son to save us, by teaching how to love him and be happy, not by dying on the cross. If that was his original purpose, that verse would say " For God so loved the World that he sent his own Son to be crucified so that the world's sins would be erased." Would you, as a Father, be happy if I crucified your son and say that it is a "sacrifice" to your honor?

Your theories are no different from the impersonalists of India, who say that God forgot he is God and falls down to this material world. God then needs to meditate on himself to remember he is God and transcend the wheel of birth and death.

God is God, he is called God because he holds dominion over all, with no equal or superior in power. God can and will never be subject to his own laws. What you are doing is limiting his potency and power.

If you are saying Jesus came here to give his life for many, then I agree. But he did not give his life just so he could be crucified. If he had done so, what was the purpose for him to say that his first and foremost commandment is "that we love God with all our heart, all our mind, our entire being"? If his first commandment was to crucify him in order to release us from our sins, he would have SAID so. But he didn't.

And regarding Thomas saying that Jesus is God, Jesus is God in a sense because he is the MASTER at the art of Loving the Supreme Lord, not God the Supreme Controller. He is God the Servant, not God the Master. Who else better at knowing how to render loving service to the Supreme Lord than his representative?

"And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth(Matt. 28:1." He was given power over Heaven and Earth, question is: who gave him that power?

And regarding your claim that only God has the power to forgive sins, then you are no different from the Pharisees that said that only God has the power to forgive sins, thereby denying Jesus' authority. A true servant of God has the power to forgive sins, since he/she is doing the will of the Supreme Lord without expecting anything in return.

so tao si Kristo?

[tatajhun]

let us tell the world of His love.

[tatajhun]

He is our savior...