Will Still Believe that God Exist After All These?

[necrotic freak]

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well you seem sound like it

It's just seem sooo ironic when they say God is a big mystery (esp when running out of supporting verses)
and cannot be figured out
and yet lots of people, religious groups or institutions claim to have their explanations or answers
or simply put...they have it figured out.

you know what, indeed God is a big mystery. but it doesnt mean we (believer) can't explain some of His words.. and i didn't say you must accept my explanation. i am just telling my part as a believer.. you still have your own choice because of freewill..

[ceprince]

Joyous? This world is joyous to you? I don't think so my friend...would it be joyous to you if you lived in Somalia or some other country that's suffering right now? Would it be joyous if you had your leg blown off by a landmine?Would this place be still awesome if war would break out? Some "joyous" world eh?

If you want this world, go ahead. Live in this world filled with birth, diseases, old age, and death. I don't want this world. I hope someday to go home...to my Father, the Supreme Lord. I don't want to be away from him, not even for a minute, but since I am so sinful, I do not deserve to even see him or touch his lotus feet. But hopefully someday, he will show his mercy to me.

And please, I don't defend any religion whatsoever. I am only speaking on what I believe. You may tag me a heretic, I don't care. I know that my Father sees how I love him, and that's enough for me. I don't need to satisfy anybody else, only him. I hope someday I may go home to his Kingdom, where there is no birth, diseases, old age, and death.

So go ahead. Live in this world. And to everyone, think again when you think that this world is a "joyous" place. Please. Wake up.

Just like what YOU said I am only speaking on what I believe. You don't think the world is joyous? Well, its only natural if you think its not since we are created with different forms, beliefs, and different opinions on different matters but for you to oppose my opinion is something like I don't have the right to state what I feel. That's how I see the world so respect it!

He created the world and everything on this universe right? So whats wrong in calling one of his creations as "joyous".

This is a forum and you can express yourself in whatever way you want but please try to comment without including names.

[ceprince]

ok good point
How does he attain mercy?
by observing or hearing how people pray?
Does he need prior observation if he already sees things---past, present and future
diba he is the alpha and omega.

and I guess he doesnt need to wait and see for these---let's say...sinners for them to repent
or to reform and change their lives for good

He knows na siguro what will happen or what is there to come..diba?
he knows how we think and our intentions now and in the future
and there's not such things as TESTS for he knows already the outcome
Unless he is not that all knowing god believers looked up to

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bro you haven't actually address the question of "HOW"
and "freewill"

Meaning he (god) has to determine, find out through tests in allowing us on our freewill
other if he knows already whats the point of this tests?
If he knows the outcome---if we rebel or not.

its plain and simple--What's the point of asking when you already knew the answer?
and what's the point of gauging a person's capacity or character if you have him figured out already?

hala no..karon ra nako ni narealize. bitaw sa? so tingale just like necrotic freak said: "even though, God already knew the answer and already knew a person's capacity that he/she will rebel and rejects His grace because of your freedom, but still God wants you to change and come back to Him. that is because He is a mercyful God."

so if he is the alpha and the omega he will also maybe, siguro know that you will repent someday thats why he will give his mercy to you....

sakto ba ko?. lol

[Vien]

Im sorry if this might offend anyone but Im just really bothered man gud...

What if lang ha na:
1. After Decemeber 21, 2012
2. og after all these signs ,based from what I have been reading lately na kesyo ang mga signs nga naa sa bible before the coming of Jesus, are coming out like this:


tapos mo 2013 na lang wa pa gihapon ning abot si Jesus.

1. Will You still believe that He really exist?
2. Will you start to doubt the bible?
3. or will you completely lost your trust and belief that bible is true?

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Ako ha I don't want the world or humanity to end yet. The world is an awesome place and living in this world is a joyous fact. so I prefer na di sa mobalik so Lord but I will still believe in Him though naa na pud ko ginagmay na doubts, kamo guys?

Doubts? it's just common to each and everyone especially when it come to a situation nga magkalisod ta. But, there will be an answer for that and all the doubts will disappear only yourself can prove weither God's existence was true or not.

[Resurgence]

Just like what YOU said I am only speaking on what I believe. You don't think the world is joyous? Well, its only natural if you think its not since we are created with different forms, beliefs, and different opinions on different matters but for you to oppose my opinion is something like I don't have the right to state what I feel. That's how I see the world so respect it!

He created the world and everything on this universe right? So whats wrong in calling one of his creations as "joyous".

This is a forum and you can express yourself in whatever way you want but please try to comment without including names.

Where in my post did I say that you don't have the right to state what you feel? I only said that what you think is wrong. Saying that your train of thought is wrong and saying that you don't have the right to post what you think are two different things. NEVER in my post did I say that you don't have a right to post what you think. So I pointed the things that make my point in saying why this world is no joyous place? Did I name any names? And when you say that I opposed your opinion, I opposed it because of the fact that I think it is wrong. Now, who's the one saying who doesn't have the right to post his own thoughts about this. As you said, this is a FORUM. I only voiced what I think is right. And what I think is right is by opposing what you think regarding this world. What's wrong with that? If I had wanted to stop you from posting whatever you or anybody thought, I would have said "Hey people! Don't post whatever you think is right; here! My way of thinking is right!" Now, did I say that? I think not. It is natural to oppose or contradict what other people are thinking or what they believe based on what you believe. That's what free will is for.

Sure, the Lord created everything in this universe. Even this place. He made it so that those who want to be so-called enjoyers who want to enjoy his Kingdom without Him can have the place to do so. My spiritual master calls this world, "anityam, asukham, lokham", the world is temporary and full of miseries. Similarly, in the Bible it is mentioned by the Apostle Paul, "If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth." You can find that in the Epistle to the Colossians Chapt. 3 Ver. 1,2. So what's wrong with me pointing out the flaws of your opinion?

And please, sense gratification, or trying to be happy, is not bad. As living entities, we are by nature trying to be happy. We just cannot be happy with what's here in this world. If that were true, then I would not have to throw away the old stuff that used to give me happiness. People would not have to say to their paramours that they are no longer happy with them and that they need to see somebody else. Just as I said, nothing can make us truly happy here. There is only misery, death, diseases, old age, and a plethora more of untold miseries here. There may be happiness here, but it is only fleeting, temporary, and will disappear at any time. With all of that, can you still claim that this is still a joyous place?

[necrotic freak]

hala no..karon ra nako ni narealize. bitaw sa? so tingale just like necrotic freak said: "even though, God already knew the answer and already knew a person's capacity that he/she will rebel and rejects His grace because of your freedom, but still God wants you to change and come back to Him. that is because He is a mercyful God."

so if he is the alpha and the omega he will also maybe, siguro know that you will repent someday thats why he will give his mercy to you....

sakto ba ko?. lol

sakto ka brad.. kini man gud si mokiloo, batanon pa kaayo ni ug lagsig pa kaayo ug lawas.. so dako pa ug posibilidad nga mausab iyang views to God.

[jofox]

sakto ka brad.. kini man gud si mokiloo, batanon pa kaayo ni ug lagsig pa kaayo ug lawas.. so dako pa ug posibilidad nga mausab iyang views to God.

mao jud brod...naa jud na posibility

[mokiloo]

hahah even god has his doubts with us
he gave us freewill to FIND OUT if we are capable of being good or bad
and to determine who amongst us deserves his mercy and salvation
siya mismo wala kaila sa iyang mga binuhat kay subject to tests pa
The all perfect and knowing GOD still having doubts about his creations!!!

[necrotic freak]

^^i think you need to thoroughly study about theology before you can make such naive statement about God..

[hunt99]

@TO ALL: walay mag-away ha ky aron di ma mute or ban tingalig ma pareho ni sa una