
Originally Posted by
Soul Doctor
who said they needed 25 billion dollars?
they already financed the research.
they already constructed the launchpad.
the already have the rockets. all they need is the astronauts, the fuel and a necessary supplies and they are good to go. a space shuttle only cost 1.7 billion dollars.
Already have the rockets? Where?
Current rockets/spacecraft that can achieve Manned LEO in NASA's inventory:
1. STS (Shuttle Transport System) - the Shuttle's total thrust CANNOT exceed the earth's escape velocity (On the surface of the Earth, the escape velocity is about 11.2 kilometers per second (~6.96 mi/s), which is approximately Mach 34 and at least 10 times the speed of a rifle bullet. However, at 9,000 km altitude in "space", it is slightly less than 7.1 km/s), so it cannot be used to cislunar operations.
Current rockets that can achieve the required escape velocity for manned cislunar operations in NASA's inventory:
1. NONE (WALA, yes, NONE)
Maayo pa ang Russians...

Current spacecraft that can achieve the required escape velocity for manned cislunar operations in RSA's inventory:
1. Soyuz (with upgrades) -
A trip around the moon? It could happen - Technology & science - Space - msnbc.com
2. Soyuz (without upgrades) -
http://moonandback.com/2011/02/03/to...or-lunar-trip/
Also, Elon Musk's SpaceX (
Space Exploration Technologies Corp. - SpaceX), a private firm, might be sending people on the moon after 2020.
Another point:
Why have you avoided answering all my questions? Tanang questions ninyo gitubag naman nako. Why man akong questions wala ninyo pa gitubag? Aber? Kana ang gitawag nga "Maglikay kung lisod, mag-tira kung sayon." nga style *shakes head*
a) Why do you focus only on Apollo 11, as if kana lang ang only Apollo mission that happened (there are 5 other landings)
b) Why do you refuse to respond to the simulation challenge? You can even just say:
i. "Ay di go ganahan niana kay simulation ra na, dili man na tinuod, gusto nako real." (kay naa pod ko
ready nga tubag in case kani iyong tubag)
ii. I don't have time to prepare for your challenge
iii. I don't trust your methods, because you're supporting NASA.
pero bisan isa ra ka response, wala dyud? *shakes head*
c) Why are your analyses seem bent to inflict a certain mistrust on authority/government figures? Is this your supreme goal to all this Hoax-nonsense i.e. to "tell the world the government cannot be trusted"? If so, you don't have to use intawon the Apollo Programme for your "crusade"--go find some other silly conspiracy theory like JFK or 9/11, just leave the Apollo Programme alone--you my friends, chose the wrong programme to mess with, for you have entered the house of logic, science and engineering, and if you use inadequate tools in your inquiries, you shall be defeated again and again.
Again, to the dear readers of this thread--how can you believe the words of someone who doesn't even know how to compute the cost-of-fuel vis-a-vis payload parameters, the difference between the needed v for LEO, and needed v to reach escape velocity, and simply casually throw out words like "they already have the rockets" without proper background on such topics?
Again, it's very easy to solve this--take my Orbiter challenge, and see for yourself why the Apollo Programme was a reality and manned lunar landings did happen.
-RODION