conspiracy theories

[rodsky]

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who said they needed 25 billion dollars?
they already financed the research.
they already constructed the launchpad.
the already have the rockets. all they need is the astronauts, the fuel and a necessary supplies and they are good to go. a space shuttle only cost 1.7 billion dollars.

Already have the rockets? Where?

Current rockets/spacecraft that can achieve Manned LEO in NASA's inventory:
1. STS (Shuttle Transport System) - the Shuttle's total thrust CANNOT exceed the earth's escape velocity (On the surface of the Earth, the escape velocity is about 11.2 kilometers per second (~6.96 mi/s), which is approximately Mach 34 and at least 10 times the speed of a rifle bullet. However, at 9,000 km altitude in "space", it is slightly less than 7.1 km/s), so it cannot be used to cislunar operations.

Current rockets that can achieve the required escape velocity for manned cislunar operations in NASA's inventory:
1. NONE (WALA, yes, NONE)


Maayo pa ang Russians...


Current spacecraft that can achieve the required escape velocity for manned cislunar operations in RSA's inventory:

1. Soyuz (with upgrades) - A trip around the moon? It could happen - Technology & science - Space - msnbc.com

2. Soyuz (without upgrades) - http://moonandback.com/2011/02/03/to...or-lunar-trip/

Also, Elon Musk's SpaceX (Space Exploration Technologies Corp. - SpaceX), a private firm, might be sending people on the moon after 2020.


Another point:

Why have you avoided answering all my questions? Tanang questions ninyo gitubag naman nako. Why man akong questions wala ninyo pa gitubag? Aber? Kana ang gitawag nga "Maglikay kung lisod, mag-tira kung sayon." nga style *shakes head*

a) Why do you focus only on Apollo 11, as if kana lang ang only Apollo mission that happened (there are 5 other landings)

b) Why do you refuse to respond to the simulation challenge? You can even just say:
i. "Ay di go ganahan niana kay simulation ra na, dili man na tinuod, gusto nako real." (kay naa pod ko
ready nga tubag in case kani iyong tubag)
ii. I don't have time to prepare for your challenge
iii. I don't trust your methods, because you're supporting NASA.

pero bisan isa ra ka response, wala dyud? *shakes head*

c) Why are your analyses seem bent to inflict a certain mistrust on authority/government figures? Is this your supreme goal to all this Hoax-nonsense i.e. to "tell the world the government cannot be trusted"? If so, you don't have to use intawon the Apollo Programme for your "crusade"--go find some other silly conspiracy theory like JFK or 9/11, just leave the Apollo Programme alone--you my friends, chose the wrong programme to mess with, for you have entered the house of logic, science and engineering, and if you use inadequate tools in your inquiries, you shall be defeated again and again.

Again, to the dear readers of this thread--how can you believe the words of someone who doesn't even know how to compute the cost-of-fuel vis-a-vis payload parameters, the difference between the needed v for LEO, and needed v to reach escape velocity, and simply casually throw out words like "they already have the rockets" without proper background on such topics?

Again, it's very easy to solve this--take my Orbiter challenge, and see for yourself why the Apollo Programme was a reality and manned lunar landings did happen.


-RODION

[THE SKULLS]

simulation challenge? sa asa?
kanang real flight simulation, uyon ko ana. pero la ko lisensya pa. d pa sad ko astronaut.

good luck na lang inyo simulation.

[rodsky]

simulation challenge? sa asa?
kanang real flight simulation, uyon ko ana. pero la ko lisensya pa. d pa sad ko astronaut.

good luck na lang inyo simulation.

Do you even understand the meaning of simulation? You can't seem to differentiate between a real event and a simulated event.

-RODION

[hydermad]

aw

[stew_griff]

The moment a person forms a theory, his imagination sees in every object only the traits which favor that theory.
Thomas Jefferson

[johnnygomezzz]

maski kapila mo ug pinamay diri ug tabi ako d jug ko motoo na ni land sila sa moon klaro pa sa tanan klaro para nako

[bhason]

rodsky ask unta ko bah murag lingaw man ang moon simulation imung gi mention diri. I wanna try it but does it take weeks to finish and is it time consuming? busy man gd kos work and ganahn lang ko mu try sa idea na simulation to the moon. thanks. pm me what i need.

[rodsky]

rodsky ask unta ko bah murag lingaw man ang moon simulation imung gi mention diri. I wanna try it but does it take weeks to finish and is it time consuming? busy man gd kos work and ganahn lang ko mu try sa idea na simulation to the moon. thanks. pm me what i need.

There is a time acceleration mode in Orbiter. The trip to the moon is about 3 days, but you can reduce it to just 3 hours...then another 3 hours to get back to earth, a total of about 6 hours of computer time. But there is a catch--if you go into accelerated mode, the physics/math engine of the simulation would have to "cut corners", thus affecting the fidelity of the simulation. The best way to simulate it in high fidelity, is to do it in real time...ang problema is you have to commit your PC for an entire week to get to the moon and back in real time mode, but I've done it before

I'll send you details on what you need to download via PM soon. Same goes for anyone interested, just PM/ask me.

-RODION

[Soul Doctor]

Already have the rockets? Where?

Current rockets/spacecraft that can achieve Manned LEO in NASA's inventory:
1. STS (Shuttle Transport System) - the Shuttle's total thrust CANNOT exceed the earth's escape velocity (On the surface of the Earth, the escape velocity is about 11.2 kilometers per second (~6.96 mi/s), which is approximately Mach 34 and at least 10 times the speed of a rifle bullet. However, at 9,000 km altitude in "space", it is slightly less than 7.1 km/s), so it cannot be used to cislunar operations.

Current rockets that can achieve the required escape velocity for manned cislunar operations in NASA's inventory:
1. NONE (WALA, yes, NONE)


Maayo pa ang Russians...


Current spacecraft that can achieve the required escape velocity for manned cislunar operations in RSA's inventory:

1. Soyuz (with upgrades) - A trip around the moon? It could happen - Technology & science - Space - msnbc.com

2. Soyuz (without upgrades) - http://moonandback.com/2011/02/03/to...or-lunar-trip/

Also, Elon Musk's SpaceX (Space Exploration Technologies Corp. - SpaceX), a private firm, might be sending people on the moon after 2020.


Another point:

Why have you avoided answering all my questions? Tanang questions ninyo gitubag naman nako. Why man akong questions wala ninyo pa gitubag? Aber? Kana ang gitawag nga "Maglikay kung lisod, mag-tira kung sayon." nga style *shakes head*

a) Why do you focus only on Apollo 11, as if kana lang ang only Apollo mission that happened (there are 5 other landings)

b) Why do you refuse to respond to the simulation challenge? You can even just say:
i. "Ay di go ganahan niana kay simulation ra na, dili man na tinuod, gusto nako real." (kay naa pod ko
ready nga tubag in case kani iyong tubag)
ii. I don't have time to prepare for your challenge
iii. I don't trust your methods, because you're supporting NASA.

pero bisan isa ra ka response, wala dyud? *shakes head*

c) Why are your analyses seem bent to inflict a certain mistrust on authority/government figures? Is this your supreme goal to all this Hoax-nonsense i.e. to "tell the world the government cannot be trusted"? If so, you don't have to use intawon the Apollo Programme for your "crusade"--go find some other silly conspiracy theory like JFK or 9/11, just leave the Apollo Programme alone--you my friends, chose the wrong programme to mess with, for you have entered the house of logic, science and engineering, and if you use inadequate tools in your inquiries, you shall be defeated again and again.

Again, to the dear readers of this thread--how can you believe the words of someone who doesn't even know how to compute the cost-of-fuel vis-a-vis payload parameters, the difference between the needed v for LEO, and needed v to reach escape velocity, and simply casually throw out words like "they already have the rockets" without proper background on such topics?

Again, it's very easy to solve this--take my Orbiter challenge, and see for yourself why the Apollo Programme was a reality and manned lunar landings did happen.


-RODION

sir,
if you want your question to be answered, then ask question one at a time.

i can not even read through your post without taking advil.

gawas pa dili ko kahibaw magmultiple-quote- sa inyong posts.

as i have said, the lunar landing, jfk assassination, and 911 are related. the brains are the same group of people.
listen to jfk's speech--(youtube--the speech that got jfk assassinated).
you will see that he was not happy with what this group has been doing in the USA.
they are manipulative and controlling the country -- when USA is supposed to be a free country.

[Soul Doctor]

some conspiracy theories are outrageous lies.
that is why i hated conspiracy theories.

but the ones i mention are presented as conspiracy theories because it is actually a terrible act of deception.
the 911, the lunar landing--- to me, as a chemical engineer presented a lot of discrepancies.

the 911 terrorist attack, right after i saw the video on tv, i knew it was a demolition job.

the lunar landing, i was not able to see because i was younger then.
but if it was shown live this time?
i would know right away that there is something wrong with the whole thing.