The Luciferian Doctrine

[Sand Man]

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all i know is that Lucifer was a good angel up until he decided to wage war against the heavens and God... mao ng gitakwil siya... i don't know any version of this story.. nor was it taught differently in school... same ra gyud nga version... mao ng interesado ko makahibalo unsa laing version.. maski summary na lang unta...

Lucifer didn't actually "wage war" at first, per se. He wanted to be God himself. And he had other angels who supported him.

And there began the conflict.

WHY CREATE DEVILS?

I know the question that these thoughts provoke in your minds. Why on earth did God create the devils? The answer is that He did not—at least, not as devils. He created them as angels, good, and entrancingly lovely, of their very nature.

But, being endowed with intelligence and freewill, they themselves had to use their power of choice in the right way rather than in the wrong way. Trial is inevitable for all free beings, even for angels. And Scripture tells us that some of the angels used their power of choice in opposition to God’s Holy Will. We are told that Lucifer, intoxicated as it were by his own perfections, said within himself, “I will be like unto the Most High.” How he could think that, or what was the occasion of it, we do not know. But we are told that there was war in heaven, that the good angels led by Michael the Archangel hurled Lucifer and his supporters from heaven, and that “God spared not the angels who fell.” Lucifer became Satan, the Adversary; and his followers devils, or slanderers, and destroyers.

Fundamentally, the choice was one of life with God, or life without God. The angels who fell chose life without God, and found themselves condemned eternally to hell.

Unfortunately, as it might seem to us, their condemnation to hell did not make it impossible for them to vent their hatred of God upon mankind, tempting men to share in their revolt. And we must say something of their efforts to dislocate God’s plan of love and peace and happiness for us.

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[deejayy_214]

^^^ a, ok...

[Devian]

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from ur quoted source... "condemned eternally to hell".

does it mean there was already hell before the war broke out or hell was created after the war and the fallen angels were thrown into that place?

[deejayy_214]

^^^ the latter siguro...

[rvsenobi]

naa diay gi-promote bahin ana?

[Devian]

^^^ the latter siguro...

unsay imo reference??

if ever na create later, who created hell?

[stnfrz]

wala pman ko kdungog ani. tinuod ni?

[Sand Man]

from ur quoted source... "condemned eternally to hell".

does it mean there was already hell before the war broke out or hell was created after the war and the fallen angels were thrown into that place?

Good question.

Although I would not dare quote Scripture writings verboten nor try to interpret them, but I will defer you to guys who have studied this subject deeper than I have:

Link: ( Did Hell exist before Satan's fall? - Catholic Answers Forums )

They have quoted some sources pero somehow it does not work for me. Di nako ma-click

[Devian]

Good question.

Although I would not dare quote Scripture writings verboten nor try to interpret them, but I will defer you to guys who have studied this subject deeper than I have:

Link: ( Did Hell exist before Satan's fall? - Catholic Answers Forums )

They have quoted some sources pero somehow it does not work for me. Di nako ma-click

sorry...forbidden for you... need to ask from me access...

hahahaha joke lang.

[Sand Man]

sorry...forbidden for you... need to ask from me access...

hahahaha joke lang.

Hahahaha ... OK ra kay murag mag nosebleed ko ana na site. Lawm na kaayo.