Everything about : RH Bill ( Reproductive Health Bill)

[endlessknight]

Overpopulation is simple: If there's less of you, then you get a bigger piece of the pie. The more people are introduced, the smaller the your piece becomes. That's the easiest analogy I can put out there.

And yes, the Church is spreading ignorance by equating contraception to abortion. I wonder what happened to "Thou shalt not lie" ?

[peewee_toot]

I was passing by Fuente the other week.. there was this Anti-RHB rally led by MSGR. Binghay... what was sickening was they were showing pictures of aborted babies and made the association that if you supported the RHB then you supported abortion as well...

This is a clear attempt at the church to misinform and misguide those who do not have faculties to understand and comprehend what is written in the bill. I always say to those who are skeptical about the bill to READ it first before making a decision. The church is engaging in misinformation and I am furthermore frustrated by these people in the church who are supposed to champion moral guidance and truth engage in such deplorable acts of deception.

Shame on You MSGR Binghay... you are giving the Roman Catholic faith a bad name by sticking to your archaic beliefs and misleading the rest of the devout Catholics.

so the role of the church is to misled people.

[badtrigger]

The situation is simple.

The church has the obligation to preach and influence its people to do what it thinks God wants His people do. The separation of church and state clause in the constitution has only bearing in situations which are legal and technical in nature (e.g., church enacting statutes, or state deciding on religious doctrines and dogmas), therefore it cannot be invoked on matters of ecclesiastical function of preaching. The church has the right to preach, in whatever form, the gospel, and contextualize it to the present setting.

However, this RH Bill in order for it to be enacted, only needs the action of the Legislators and the President who represent the citizens of the country. Therefore, the ultimate decision lies with the people.

If the bill is passed, the Roman Catholic Church should accept it. The preachings against it may continue, so be it. The state will then be mandated to carry out its provisions, so be it. If anybody from any side, priest or layman, being so consumed by his stand on the issue, trespass any law, let him be duly punished.

If we Filipinos are objective and less bigoted, and approach issues with moderation, we can spare our nation from disunity which is far more critical than having or not having an RH law.

[hush232002]

rh bill wa pani mahuman?

[vipvip68]

The situation is simple.

The church has the obligation to preach and influence its people to do what it thinks God wants His people do.

Therein lies the problem...

However, this RH Bill in order for it to be enacted, only needs the action of the Legislators and the President who represent the citizens of the country. Therefore, the ultimate decision lies with the people.

If the bill is passed, the Roman Catholic Church should accept it. The preachings against it may continue, so be it. The state will then be mandated to carry out its provisions, so be it. If anybody from any side, priest or layman, being so consumed by his stand on the issue, trespass any law, let him be duly punished.

If we Filipinos are objective and less bigoted, and approach issues with moderation, we can spare our nation from disunity which is far more critical than having or not having an RH law.

Its not that simple. The church is using its influence to shape public policy. The problem lies in the millions of devout and naive Catholics who follow and believe what the church teaches them without question. The church is using its power and control over people to shape public policy and politicians are afraid that their support for the bill will gain the ire of the church and compromise their political future.

Catholicism gives us moral foundations when we grow up but it can also be abused by church leaders who have their own political agenda.

[Romeojin]

the Church is misleading the public lol people who say NFP is ineffective are misleading the people

There are BC method/pill cause abortion, thats a fact. All honest scientists, constitutions, and religions agree on that. Conception refers to to the moment where the spermatozoon permeates the ovum. The process is also called fertilization, although contraceptive and abortion propagandists desperately deny it.

heres what professional says about abortion base on a book of Randy Alcorn

"Does the Birth Control Pill Cause Abortions?"
Here's what 11 physicians and medical professionals are saying about the book Randy Alcorn published in 1998:
1. "From medical textbooks and pharmacy references, to statements from the Pill-manufacturers themselves, this book proves, beyond any doubt, the abortion-causing action of birth control pills. This book should be read by everyone interested in knowing the truth."
~ Paul L. Hayes, M.D., Board Certified Fellow of the American College of Obstetricians/Gynecologists
2. "Does the birth control pill cause abortions? Using research results from medical literature, Randy Alcorn has convincingly shown that the answer is `yes.' He has, with care and compassion, given us the truth. The question for us as Christians is how we will respond now that we know."
~ Linda Martin, M.D., Pediatrician
3. "By carefully detailing the available medical information concerning the abortifacient effects of oral contraceptives, Randy Alcorn has developed a logical and thoughtful challenge to every prolife person. The conclusions of this study are scientifically accurate. Birth control pills usually prevent pregnancy, but sometimes they cause an abortion. Questions? Objections? Randy has addressed them in a gentle but firm way. This is the manner in which the often fiery debate over prolife subjects should be carried out- unemotionally, intelligently and quietly. The evidence is before us . . . `How should we then live?'"
~ Patrick D. Walker, M.D., Professor of Pathology, University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences
4. "In this challenging book Randy Alcorn has the honesty to face a tough and uncomfortable question. This compelling evidence will make you rethink the question of birth control pills."
~ John Brose, M.D., Surgeon
5. "In this impeccably researched book, Randy Alcorn takes an unblinking look at what medical experts know about how birth control pills work. I painfully agree that birth control pills do in fact cause abortions. Our individual and collective Christian response to this heretofore varnished-over information will have profound consequences for time and eternity. This is a disturbing must-read for all who profess to be prolife."
~ Beverly A. McMillan, M.D., Ob/Gyn
6. "Randy Alcorn has done exceptional work. The facts in this book parallel much of my own research. I am delighted he would undertake such a work when others seek to avoid the subject. This book is a must for Christians, particularly those in medicine and Christian ministries."
~ Karen D. Garnett, R.N.
7. "No prolife physician can rightly prescribe BCPs [birth control pills] after reviewing this data. I have started circulating this information."
~ Randall Martin, M.D., Chairman, Department of Anesthesiology, Columbia Willamette Valley Medical Center
8. "Scientific papers suggest that escape ovulation occurs 4-15% of all cycles in patients taking birth control pills. Thus, as this booklet points out, early chemical abortions are a real and significant concern."
~ Paddy Jim Baggot, M.D., Ob/Gyn, Fellow of the American College of Medical Genetics
9. "Randy Alcorn has thoroughly studied and written on an area where little published scientific information exists. His responses to this issue, and his outstanding appendices, are must reading."

~ William M. Petty, M.D., Surgeon, Gynecologic Oncology
10. "Randy Alcorn has once again demonstrated his tenacity and integrity in pursuing the truth. He has exposed the abortifacient properties of so-called birth control agents. This booklet should be required reading for all discerning Christians who wish to fully live out their faith."

~ William L. Toffler, M.D., Professor of Family Medicine,
Oregon Health Sciences University
11. "I endorse Randy Alcorn's book with gusto. He has answered the title question with the care and compassion of a pastor, having searched out the facts with the diligence of an experienced researcher. He has provided all women in their reproductive years with an invaluable resource which will allow them to be fully informed about the birth control pill."
~ William F. Colliton, Jr., M.D., Clinical Professor of Obstetrics and Gynecology,
George Washington University Medical Center

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RH bill is saying they dont support abortion and yet it hadn't filter out what BC method cause abortion

[badtrigger]

All matter exert influence over another. To be in context, everybody uses influence, however great or small, in whatever form, to shape things to his preference. The state, the church, the pro RH bill, the anti RH bill, down to the last "tambay sa kanto", all exert influence. That's a reality - everybody plays politics. A baby, a wife, a friend, a nobody - all play politics. Even heaven, if it exists, I doubt if it is void of politics. What I'm saying is, that should not trouble us as long as the "politico" does not trespass the law of the land. It is something we can't do away with.

Now, one might mistake me of being an ultra-centrist, having no stance on this issue. I have read Lagman's RH bill thrice, the consolidated RH bill once. I am sold out to it and in my own way have campaigned for it . Why do I say the situation is simple? Because when I took a step back and viewed the issue on its broader sense, it is nothing but an ordinary political process by the same time-old major political players, the church and the state. If the bill is enacted, I'll be glad. If it isn't, I will not be enraged. After-all, population is only one of the thousand factors in building a progressive nation. I and my wife will continue to use condoms and influence others to do the same. I will not speak ill of others however far-opposite their views may be.

[gcc4426]

a bunch of meddling hypocrites hits the spotlight nasad. katong bacalod priest ba tong nabasahan nakos newspaper niha...along with his minions.

kahibaw na silas ilang gpamuhat?
pwd ni sila hipuson?! mangadugta ta anag samot anang klasiha sa pangutok.

we are supposed to evolve into better species, not regress!. tsk.
let's embrace the un-traditional, please. its for betterment sd man.

[bottlefly]

mga pari ky obsolete kaAyog huna2x...

actually dili man obsolete og huna2x.. if mapasa ang RH bill, there'll probably be lesser child births.. so if you think about it..

lesser childbirth = lesser baptisms = lesser profit

[Romeojin]

its better to have an obsolete mind than an idiotic one

imagine pud pila ka millions of innocent unborn babies will suffer but people would rather say mawad.an ug income ang Church, as if multi-million pesos of donation is not enough.