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  1. #2771

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    This author is convinced that upholding the Constitution by Promoting and Protecting Marriage as an Institution (along with proper counsel) shall address whatever the Consolidated RH Bill intends to address!

    MARRIAGE (along with proper counsel) PROTECTS WOMEN.

    Eph 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it. (KJV)

    Eph 5:28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself. (KJV)

    Eph 5:33 Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband. (KJV)

    Col 3:19 Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them. (KJV)

    1 Peter 3:7 Likewise, ye husbands, dwell with them according to knowledge, giving honour unto the wife, as unto the weaker vessel, and as being heirs together of the grace of life; that your prayers be not hindered. (KJV)

    It is Christian Filipino values for husbands to be at the side of their wives not just through her pregnancy and delivery but lifetime – For better or worse, richer or poorer, sickness or health, joy or sorrow…God designed marriage to protect women.

    MARRIAGE (along with proper counsel) ADDRESSES POVERTY.

    1 Tim 5:8 But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever. (NKJV)

    2 Cor 12:14 …or the children ought not to lay up for the parents, but the parents for the children. (NKJV)

    What man who marries does not plan for his home and future? In most cases, families mired in poverty who have a lot of children are those who have not been taught the proper counsel in marriage.

    What comes with marriage is Responsibility. If we promote a society that teaches safe *** without marriage, that distributes condoms and contraceptives even to the unmarried, we promote a next generation that will not know responsibility and values and one which will have no regard for marriage. It is a known fact that all countries which have adopted contraception as a way of life have drastically dwindled in number of marriages.

    MARRIAGE (along with proper counsel) ADDRESSES POPULATION GROWTH.

    What couple who plan to get married would not talk about having the right number of children who they can sustain and support? In most cases, most "unwanted" children come by relationships outside marriage – be they pre-marital or extra-marital. But if we have a society and a law that actively promote and protect marriages, this issue will be addressed and with a definite cooperation of the church and the state. Needless to say, most cases of abortion also come by relationships outside marriage.

    If we really believe in the right of the child to live, then we should also believe in the right of the child to enjoy a good name, have a father and a mother, a home, legal privileges – and all that comes with marriage!

    I was talking to a friend Muslim. He said, "In Islam, we can have as many as four wives and have as many children. But the basis for such is the man should be able to sustain and support them. It is that of having the proper view of marriage. It is being responsible husbands and fathers. We do not simply want to have children. We want to get married and have well-sustained children."

    MARRIAGE (along with proper counsel) PROTECTS FROM HIV/AIDS.

    It is quite obvious – most men and women who contract HIV/AIDS have not considered the values that come with marriage!

    1 Cor 7:2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband. KJV

    A paraphrase of the above verse will indicate, "To avoid HIV/AIDS, let every man have his own wife and let every woman have her own husband."

    What the Consolidated RH Bill lacks is a provision that actively promotes and protects marriage as an institution. Unless and until this Biblical principle and Filipino values are provided, I am convinced that the Consolidated RH Bill must be rejected!

    Bishop REUBEN M. ABANTE, DD
    reuben.abante@gmail.com




    ... in reading this article, I am conviced that the church as a ministry of God can provide biblical and sound advice. It may be for our homes, offices and the goverment to serve as a guide on how we should conduct ourselves. In this case, RH Bill is a bill that will become a law that will affect all of us. We all should scrutinize it for all the merits and demerits that comes with it. Looking not just at the near future but well beyond the next generation.
    Last edited by jdhdl; 02-13-2011 at 07:21 PM.

  2. #2772

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    [quote=ocelot;9197914]what's the church's role? shut up and let lawmakers do their job.

    if I were them id concentrate on preaching the gospel. instill moral values mga tao.

    moral values + the RH bill = win win situation for the philippines.



    Preachers/church members are also filipinos and as a filipino they also have the right to oppose and voice out on any bill that passes thru our congress. Remember most filipinos support the RH bill not knowing the dangers that comes with it.

    It is more dangerous if an immoral/dangerous bill is passed and we didn't do something about it. If the RH bill becomes a law, we are mandated to follow/obey even though we oppose. I doubt that lawmakers will repeal the law if it passes.... mag mumukha silang tanga.. syempre nde nila gagawin yun.

  3. #2773

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    im not favor into that bill.. its only for those who are not catholic...

  4. #2774

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    Quote Originally Posted by heavenscent84 View Post
    ... its only for those who are not catholic...
    That has got to be the most stupid and most ignorant statement in istorya.net ever.

  5. #2775

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    kung supak ang simbahan ani, dapat lang sila mag propose ug alternative na solusyon, dili lang kay sige ug rally sa gawas.

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    for me dpat mo barog cla ani

  8. #2778

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    hehehe. naa dyud ni sa amoang seminar. ang bana pabor unya ang asawa kay dili pabor thinking they are both alagad sa simbahan.

  9. #2779

    Default Re: What is the Role of the Church in the Reproductive Health Bill?

    Oh the Catholic church can oppose it, it's within their right as Filipino citizens. However, if you're not part of the solution, then most likely you're part of the problem. Tell me, what does the Catholic church advertise as an alternative to the RH Bill? Abstinence? Honestly, does abstinence really work? If it did, then there wouldn't be so many of us in this small patch of land.

    Education is key. The RH Bill is about educating common folks who may not know that there are alternatives for family planning. Lucky for some of us who are members here, they're educated enought to from s*x or choose a natural method. But what about those who can't control their urges? What about the ignorant and uneducated? What about the poor woman currently carrying her 7th child while the other 6 starve? What about the wife who has an abusive husband who only thinks with his d*ck? Have you guys ever thought about those people? Does the Bible say anything about those people? If the RH Bill is not for you, then hey, it's cool. No harm, no foul. There are other people out there who need it.

    The Church can oppose, but they should just come down from their lofty towers and open their eyes for a change. The old priests in the CBCP growl in opposition to a topic that they're not experts at. Priests experts at reproductive health? That's like asking a dentist to operate an oil rig.

    Yes, the Church can oppose, but what's the point? The government can promote the RH Bill while the Church can still promote the natural method. It's not like the government is completely phasing out the natural way to plan a family, they're just adding alternatives. The Church can continue preaching, nothing will be prohibited in their homilies and sermons.

    Amen.

  10. #2780

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    lets put it in a simple perspective, if the darm church was actually doing its supposed purpose properly then there wouldn't be a need for this bill. The gov't is trying to clean up the mess that the church wasn't able to prevent, now sila pa ng magreklamo.

    And the bishop can go screw themselves or their altar boys, for using the name of God for their own stupidity

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