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    Quote Originally Posted by eax View Post
    dublin (ap) — a 1997 letter from the vatican warned ireland's catholic bishops not to report all suspected child-abuse cases to police — a disclosure that victims' groups described as "the smoking gun" needed to show that the church enforced a worldwide culture of covering up crimes by pedophile priests.

    The newly revealed letter, obtained by irish broadcasters rte and provided to the associated press, documents the vatican's rejection of a 1996 irish church initiative to begin helping police identify pedophile priests following ireland's first wave of publicly disclosed lawsuits.

    The letter undermines persistent vatican claims, particularly when seeking to defend itself in u.s. Lawsuits, that rome never instructed local bishops to withhold evidence or suspicion of crimes from police. It instead emphasizes the church's right to handle all child-abuse allegations and determine punishments in house rather than give that power to civil authorities.

    Signed by the late archbishop luciano storero, pope john paul ii's diplomat to ireland, the letter instructs irish bishops that their new policy of making the reporting of suspected crimes mandatory "gives rise to serious reservations of both a moral and canonical nature."

    storero wrote that canon law, which required abuse allegations and punishments to be handled within the church, "must be meticulously followed." any bishops who tried to impose punishments outside the confines of canon law would face the "highly embarrassing" position of having their actions overturned on appeal in rome, he wrote.

    Catholic officials in ireland and the vatican declined ap requests to comment on the letter, which rte said it received from an irish bishop.

    http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2011...wt&twt=nytimes

    remember santo papa karon naay pending case sa america sa gilikay niya nga pari sa panahun naggwork siya sa vatican.

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    Bsan asa they will cover up the issue...

    its no secret that most of the priests = pedos.
    Last edited by flanker; 01-19-2011 at 03:05 PM.

  3. #13
    how sad if this is true...

  4. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by 19blackpanther75 View Post
    that's the reason why i have no trust in catholic churches no more... i can sense the hypocrasy... i trust in God but to those priest i don't give a damn respect....they're sick....
    karon pa ka?! sauna ra ko, ehhehehe....btaw hagbay ra na nagsugod ilang kabuang oi...sa pag abot pa nila sa cebu ga sugod na ang hawshaw...laliman ka gipa sanina ug sutana ang mga piniriso nga tigbugsay sa una aron ingnun nga pari, unya dili d i...

  5. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by pepponeskie View Post
    karon pa ka?! sauna ra ko, ehhehehe....btaw hagbay ra na nagsugod ilang kabuang oi...sa pag abot pa nila sa cebu ga sugod na ang hawshaw...laliman ka gipa sanina ug sutana ang mga piniriso nga tigbugsay sa una aron ingnun nga pari, unya dili d i...
    Asa ka ani nga story sa mga piniriso bro? Unsa diay nahitabo ngano gipasuot sutana?

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    ^^karaang tao man diay ni si pepponeskie kay naka witness pa jud siya ana nga hitabo..

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    mga PADRE DAMASO jud hahaha..daghan na ngahitabo ani mawala lng kalit ang issue

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    Quote Originally Posted by eax View Post
    ... instead emphasizes the church's right to handle all child-abuse allegations and determine punishments in house rather than give that power to civil authorities.

    Signed by the late Archbishop Luciano Storero, Pope John Paul II's diplomat to Ireland, the letter instructs Irish bishops that their new policy of making the reporting of suspected crimes mandatory "gives rise to serious reservations of both a moral and canonical nature."

    Storero wrote that canon law, which required abuse allegations and punishments to be handled within the church, "must be meticulously followed." Any bishops who tried to impose punishments outside the confines of canon law would face the "highly embarrassing" position of having their actions overturned on appeal in Rome, he wrote.

    http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2011...wt&twt=nytimes
    In his own opinion... this guy is no different from former Archbishop Oscar Cruz who is so cynical at cleaning the image of the church and imposing their assertions in their own way.

    Silent and church kai nag FACEPALM na sila...

  9. #19
    You guys are still not getting over with these issues ?

    PEDOPHILE here , PEDOPHILE there . Catholics here , Catholics there .

    Go on with your lives , just because you see a link that interest you but doent support anything makes it interesting alone and will just brew CHAOS and HATRED .

    One more VATICAN threads and i will award an infraction to the threadstarter . Pwerting daghana na ug VATICAN threads , hala adto mo pag pista kung kamo mga biktima mo sa pari ni adtong mga sakristan pa mo .

    Locking this , naa moy reklamo ? PM lang mo nako . Ayaw mo pag reklamo sa SUPPORT THREAD kay dili to BARANGGAY HALL didto .
    " A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. " - 2nd Amendment , Bill of Rights of the United States of America

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