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    Quote Originally Posted by yhokz101 View Post
    is it impossible to be scientific and spiritual/religious at the same time?
    In the purest sense, yes, it is impossible, because there will be irreconcilable differences between the two modes of being.

    Human beings will always feel the need for something mystical and spiritual in their lives, but it's just a stroking/soothing thing, which is why some of those who do apply science and the scientific method in their daily lives, still cannot go about living if they do not undergo the routines and practices of a spiritual or religious person. Feynman states that its the feeling of confusion of not being able to understand something, a fear that tends to push us back into a state far removed from being scientific, into one that yearns for "magical" answers and assurances of why things are the way they are, which falls under the realm of mysticism or spirituality.

    While I do say that it's impossible in the strictest sense, it doesn't necessarily mean that I don't think there are people out there who are both scientific and religious/spiritual, because there are, and that's a personal choice for them.

    -RODION

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    science don't need to be absolute. it's theoritical.

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    that's why I love space cakes

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    Quote Originally Posted by analog man View Post
    science don't need to be absolute. it's theoritical.

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    that's why I love space cakes
    It's funny you mention about absolutism when we have the terms "relativity" and "the uncertainty principle" in physics.

    Furthermore, science is never about absolutism, so by stating that phrase, we can very well see how much you understand the scientific method.

    "Humans may crave absolute certainty; they may aspire to it; they may pretend, as partisans of certain religions do, to have attained it. But the history of science—by far the most successful claim to knowledge accessible to humans—teaches that the most we can hope for is successive improvement in our understanding, learning from our mistakes, an asymptotic approach to the Universe, but with the proviso that absolute certainty will always elude us." - Carl Sagan

    -RODION
    Last edited by rodsky; 12-29-2010 at 02:44 PM.

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    it maybe true, kai mostly if science na ang mo ingon, tinood raba dayon? We need more evidence if this planet can sustain life.

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    this is interesting but needs a trillion sweat to be proven true...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodsky View Post
    It's funny you mention about absolutism when we have the terms "relativity" and "the uncertainty principle" in physics.
    and the uncertainty has principles now.
    isn't it uncertain how man think it's science?

    you're right about relativity, we are all relatives. hahaha.

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    Science is Ideally right, but uncertain in Reality.
    Last edited by analog man; 01-02-2011 at 10:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by analog man View Post
    and the uncertainty has principles now.
    isn't it uncertain how man think it's science?

    you're right about relativity, we are all relatives. hahaha.

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    Science is Ideally right, but uncertain in Reality.
    Your posts, Mr. analog man, tends to lead the common iStorya.net reader to think that whatever you post is correct and "sublime" (and in fact, there could actually be individuals here who actually "admire" your "witty" retorts, and I find that rather amusing). When the fact is, most of your statements are logically skewed and unsound, and in the final analysis only points to either a lack of understanding of the subject matter, or exposure in the proper sources of literature that should provide the correct manner of reasoning and thus arrive at more sensible statements.

    ADDENDUM: Mr. analog man, I reviewed most of your posts here the past year, and from them I have inferred that you seem to be in a crusade in this section of istorya.net to belittle science and the scientific method. Well, I shall not allow that in this section. The next post from you, which has any tiny tendency to mock or make science seem irrelevant will lead to an instant ban. No exceptions, no excuses. Be warned. Bihira ako magbiro dito.

    -RODION
    Last edited by rodsky; 01-02-2011 at 04:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rodsky View Post
    Almost everyone has the capacity for science and the scientific method. What most people don't realize is that, most prefer NOT to be scientific, because they feel it "ruins" their spirituality and mysticism.

    -RODION
    then go back to this rodsky.

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    And I admire Astronomers. It's all I can say.

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