Tinuod ba ang christmas?

[jd_cellphone]

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Asa ato bro? please direct me.

Christmas - ,

ayaw edisregard..tell us what your opinion too...tiwasa jud og read ang articles...

[Vien]

Bro for me as a comment on your said link, naa tuod ni sa wiki , pero it doesnt matter to me.
Yes we both have a different beliefs it is because of the book I read, It is the Roman Catholic Bible who changed me a lot. If you will just give time to read the Bible you will be enlighten that the world surrounded you has plenty of lies. Now you want a comment on the link you gave, sorry It doesn't matter to me.

Let us give our self a chance to know God better read the Bible if you have it, if you do have please open it and ask guidance to the Father Creator of all things that once you read it there will be miracles that will take place, I am heartily and honestly saying these words for my bros. here as a Istoryan member. Sorry if I make your faith to be disturbed but It really needs to be that way you have to test it until you find it to be the best.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

@ VIEN ...

Sorry to butt in but let me ask you this , you read the ROMAN CATHOLIC BIBLE and your reference is not even close to be ROMAN CATHOLIC .

Now if you insist that Roman Catholic ang bible na gi read nimo , how true is it ? Does it have the NIHIL OBSTAT and IMPRIMATUR in the earlier pages ? if not then its not the ROMAN CATHOLIC BIBLE and yes , the birth of Christ there which is CHRISTMAS in the gospels of MATTHEW and LUKE likely being explained that it doesnt need a THEOLGIAN to interpret it .

Did you know that naay mga meaning na mga 3 magi's , guiding star , sheperds , barn , gold , incense and myrrh ? Even if wala si SANTA diha and the rest of the Christmas symbols , it doesnt mean it is wrong because these are mere tools to remind us of our duties .

[neigyl_noval]

TS: I will comment on your comments so far. Thanks for your opinion so that everyone will be enlightened. My explanation will be short and concise and direct to the point as possible so please read everything. Thanks.

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Dili mani pinugsanay mga bros. Truth will always be the truth.

--> The problem lies on which truth do you want to choose and if that truth is really the truth. Your conscience will tell you.

Maybe if your Ideas will be like mine I will surely put it in my Stomach.

--> Our ideas are based on what we learn. What we learn is not the same as what you've learned such as the link you have given in your first post.

Actually it's not my video bro. I only pick it up from youtube, since I dont have an Idea on how to make slide shows so that's why I copied the link but it's really what I want to share with you bros.

--> There are many videos out there that go against Christmas. I guess 100+. There are many videos there that go against Catholic practices. View all of them and see their point: "People should avoid God at all times."

I can do it vice versa bro, which comes first will do.

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I dont want to follow any pagan ways anymore I'm tired of it Im through with it.
Ngano man diay ug mamatay nga dili pako ka kita sa kamatuoran? Kay sa magsunod sunod lang sa walay pulos nga mga festivities nga para sa mga pagan Gods.

--> Are those worshipping Jesus pagans? Christmas is the celebration of the birth of Jesus. You say we are pagans too?

Bro. dili man ingon unfair ko. It is just I dont want to walk my way back to which I belong ba this is what I mean.

--> You belong to Jesus. Don't go with Satan.

Salamat sa pag close sa Thread bro ha.

--> Mas better if dili na ma-close na thread para everyone will know what is the truth and so that everyone will be enlightened with their faith.

So here you go again, this is the second time you do this, first religious and occult forum, karon here in General Discussion, why? tungod ba sa information nga akong gi link gikan sa Youtube? There's nothing wrong kung mo balhin ug religion bro, ngano man diay ug EX does that mean harm to you?

--> Whatever religion you are, just don't go with Satanism. You are now believing what anti-Christians do.

I can accept your christmas nakatatak naman na sa history but the true essence of it will never be justified nga para kang Jesus Christ kay it will serve as a pagan holiday celebration.

--> Dili na xa ma-justify bro. If ma-justify na, ganiha ra unta and dili unta maabtan ug 2010 years. Christmas is not a pagan holiday and we never call it holiday! We call Christmas the "celebration of the birth of Christ".

bro ikaw diay akong gi comentohan bro? dont worry naa pay daghan video mo abot.
--> Naay daghang video nga mo go against sa Catholic practices. Mao nay objective ni Satan: To let the people go against God.


Also maong dili ko mo tubag sa uban nga mga comments kay para nako they are just too leteral to discuss

--> Too literal to be the truth. Too literal that even intelligent guys doesn't understand. And too literal that you never accept. We have proofs bro.

Bahala na ug e close ang Thread ang impotante adunay Expose'.

--> I hope not.

bro can't you get it? it had a scriptures passage on it.

--> Christmas also has scripture passages. Is there nothing in the bible that talks about the birth of Christ? Mao ra na sa purgatory, fiestas, saints, etc. Wala na sila sa Bible literally. But it is there by its meaning.

Ngano ni Join diay ko? Wala koy denomination bro I am not depending on any, gisaway ang thread kay tungod dili akong hinimo ang video, is it necesarry? the message is what I after on this video.

--> It is ok bro. I thank you for this so that everyone will be enlightened.

Sagdi lang bro naa pay daghang Fraud nga videos nga mo abot.

--> Daghan ang nangitag fraud sa Catholic practices. Daghan kaayo. It depends on one's conscience on what to believe.

Pasalamat lang ko sa Istorya.net heartily, kay pinaagi ani I'll be able to do what I have to do.
I didn't mean any harm and chaos, just an expose'.

--> We accept what you exposed. Please accept what we commented and reflect on it. Pada guro kas yawa. Please don't.

Bro wait lang nya sa next Video kay imo man gi close ang 1. Mang hinaot
ko nga sunod dili na unta ma CLOSED.

--> Yes. I agree.

Sorry Cge next time I will do that, abi man gud nako ug dali ra masabtan ang gusto nakong ipahiwatig.

--> We all understand. Do you understand what we meant? Wala gani ka mu-reply sa akong mga past comments diri.

Bro for me as a comment on your said link, naa tuod ni sa wiki , pero it doesnt matter to me.
Yes we both have a different beliefs it is because of the book I read, It is the Roman Catholic Bible who changed me a lot. If you will just give time to read the Bible you will be enlighten that the world surrounded you has plenty of lies. Now you want a comment on the link you gave, sorry It doesn't matter to me.

Let us give our self a chance to know God better read the Bible if you have it, if you do have please open it and ask guidance to the Father Creator of all things that once you read it there will be miracles that will take place, I am heartily and honestly saying these words for my bros. here as a Istoryan member. Sorry if I make your faith to be disturbed but It really needs to be that way you have to test it until you find it to be the best.

--> Create a new thread that contain the lies that Catholics do. I will all answer it and prove that it isn't a lie.


To summarize, depende ra na sa atong faith. Your conscience will tell you on what to believe. Ask God for help and you will know it. Thanks for the time reading.

[loysters]

ot: one word is enough for a wise man

[jd_cellphone]

Bro for me as a comment on your said link, naa tuod ni sa wiki , pero it doesnt matter to me.

Mr. vien why it won't matter to you? diba gi answer sa mga facts and articles with sources ang naa sa imo YOUTUBE video like santa, x-mas tree, star, giving gifts, caroling and more.......? Nahibong langjudko nimo nga grabe kaayo ka motuo sa imo YOUTUBE video and sa ako link mura langka wala. murag ikaw man hinoon ang dili kadawat sa kamatuoran.

Yes we both have a different beliefs it is because of the book I read, It is the Roman Catholic Bible who changed me a lot. If you will just give time to read the Bible you will be enlighten that the world surrounded you has plenty of lies. Now you want a comment on the link you gave, sorry It doesn't matter to me.

So it boils down that your motive on this thread is to convince us all here in istorya that we will change our beliefs? That your beliefs is correct and ours is wrong? you really made me laugh hard mr. vien..Again its very clear that all the issues in your video was justified by the said link..

Let us give our self a chance to know God better read the Bible if you have it, if you do have please open it and ask guidance to the Father Creator of all things that once you read it there will be miracles that will take place, I am heartily and honestly saying these words for my bros. here as a Istoryan member.

Mr. vien you better think a hundred times before you raise issues and things that are very sensitive, the word RESPECT is what you need, this is not the place. You are at the wrong place for convincing us to join your so called WLC. And my conclusion? this thread that you made, it isn't about Christmas after all, it is about recruiting us to join your group.

Sorry if I make your faith to be disturbed but It really needs to be that way you have to test it until you find it to be the best.

Honestly my friend, not even a single bit that my faith in GOD was disturbed..Assuming ra kaayo ka..
But on the brighter side for you Mr. vien..Just keep doing good deeds and praising GOD.

[jd_cellphone]

pahabol pa gyud Mr. vien....it wont matter man kaha diay, so better change your thread title from "tinuod ba ang Christmas" to "tinuod ba ang inyong tinuhuan?" now na....total finish naman amo Christmas celebration but for sure ang essence will be whole year round.

[treize]

Bahala na ug e close ang Thread ang impotante adunay Expose'.

LOL you're a funny guy...

Please stop ridiculing yourself.. expose man nuon.. wa man gani kay ikatubag sa among mga pangutana, di man gani ka katubag og tarong sa mga simpol kaayong pangutana....

Tubag sad og tarong Vien para tuhoan sad ka ba...

Maypa unahon to nimo og pakita ana imong mga video ang mga rugby boys basin mo tuo pa..

[jd_cellphone]

LOL you're a funny guy...

Please stop ridiculing yourself.. expose man nuon.. wa man gani kay ikatubag sa among mga pangutana, di man gani ka katubag og tarong sa mga simpol kaayong pangutana....

Tubag sad og tarong Vien para tuhoan sad ka ba...

Maypa unahon to nimo og pakita ana imong mga video ang mga rugby boys basin mo tuo pa..

It doesn't matter lagi kuno bro.........unsay mahemz nato ani?

[treize]

Bro for me as a comment on your said link, naa tuod ni sa wiki , pero it doesnt matter to me.

mao na diha kay adto man ka sa youtube motuo...

Yes we both have a different beliefs it is because of the book I read, It is the Roman Catholic Bible who changed me a lot. If you will just give time to read the Bible you will be enlighten that the world surrounded you has plenty of lies. Now you want a comment on the link you gave, sorry It doesn't matter to me.

Unsa kaha na nga bible imong gibasa naa si Darna diha... sure kaha ka nakasabot ka ana? Unsa lagi nang TRUTH og LIES nga imong sige og claim.. elaborate please..
It doesn't matter to you gyud kay tapolan man ka mo basa basta walay video. cge pabuhatan unya na nato og video ang naa sa bible apil na naa sa wiki para ganahan ka motan-aw.

Let us give our self a chance to know God better read the Bible if you have it, if you do have please open it and ask guidance to the Father Creator of all things that once you read it there will be miracles that will take place, I am heartily and honestly saying these words for my bros. here as a Istoryan member. Sorry if I make your faith to be disturbed but It really needs to be that way you have to test it until you find it to be the best.

Unsa kaha na nga Creator imong tuhoan.. Creator's Calendar nasad? kanag tigbuhat sa kalendaryo? hehehe..