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  1. #31

    hyundai accent... or hyundai getz, but i love the torque of accent

  2. #32
    My uncle has accent.. fuel consumption around 10km city driving pero patyon ka sa maintenance or sa pagpa PM kay mahal because it's diesel.

    I am using vios and it's around 10-12 km/l.

  3. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by *********_ko View Post
    My uncle has accent.. fuel consumption around 10km city driving pero patyon ka sa maintenance or sa pagpa PM kay mahal because it's diesel.

    I am using vios and it's around 10-12 km/l.
    i really don't believe that owning a diesel is more expensive than owning gas.

    i own both and spend more for maintenance on the gasoline car...

  4. #34
    Kia Carrens bro fuel efficient kaayo based sa magazine nga ako nabasahan. TOP gear magazine if i remember correctly.

  5. #35
    top fuel efficient sedans.

    hyundai accent diesel.
    suzuki alto gas.
    suzuki celerio gas.
    ford focus diesel variant.
    hyundai i10
    hyundai getz
    kia picanto
    toyota vios smaller engine.
    cherry qq

    but regardless of how fuel efficient your car is. if your heavy on the pedal it wouldnt matter anyway.

  6. #36
    It simply means there's no fuel efficient cars at all, just a light foot on the accelerator.

    The list presented are just names, car names given by the manufacturer for identification, new body, new paint and same old combustion engine technology degraded over time. There's nothing new at all when it comes to fuel delivery to improve fuel burn, there's no improvement in efficiency - same old inefficient setup. It's like saying, forget the fuel consumption, just take a look at a new body design, nice curves, nice seats, glossy paint and you should buy it for it is nice to have one.

    Have anyone question about the quality of fuel available on the market? Did it improve over time?


    Quote Originally Posted by tonioyantao View Post
    top fuel efficient sedans.

    hyundai accent diesel.
    suzuki alto gas.
    suzuki celerio gas.
    ford focus diesel variant.
    hyundai i10
    hyundai getz
    kia picanto
    toyota vios smaller engine.
    cherry qq

    but regardless of how fuel efficient your car is. if your heavy on the pedal it wouldnt matter anyway.

  7. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by vernie View Post
    It simply means there's no fuel efficient cars at all, just a light foot on the accelerator.

    The list presented are just names, car names given by the manufacturer for identification, new body, new paint and same old combustion engine technology degraded over time. There's nothing new at all when it comes to fuel delivery to improve fuel burn, there's no improvement in efficiency - same old inefficient setup. It's like saying, forget the fuel consumption, just take a look at a new body design, nice curves, nice seats, glossy paint and you should buy it for it is nice to have one.

    Have anyone question about the quality of fuel available on the market? Did it improve over time?
    i beg to disagree thru the years there are improvements on fuel efficiency and fuel delivery systems. from carburators to efi's to Gdi's. as a general fact larger engines do take up more fuel than smaller ones. the question is how effeciently it burns fuel. regardless, another big factor on fuel efficiency is the driver.
    driving a small car with a 1.0 engine like a crazy person would probably sucks up more gas than someone who drives a v6 engine thriftly. but still if both cars are driven economically with the same conditions, what vehicle do you think would have better mileage?

  8. #38
    the ford focus diesel was the car that was used head on sa effeciency sa prius done in the streets in manila.

    ford focus diesel vs prius.
    results.... search sa net.

    Go focus diesel!

    accent is very okay pod with its turbo-VGT technology. sad to say wa pa lng disel variant sa all new accent karon

  9. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by vernie View Post
    It simply means there's no fuel efficient cars at all, just a light foot on the accelerator.

    The list presented are just names, car names given by the manufacturer for identification, new body, new paint and same old combustion engine technology degraded over time. There's nothing new at all when it comes to fuel delivery to improve fuel burn, there's no improvement in efficiency - same old inefficient setup. It's like saying, forget the fuel consumption, just take a look at a new body design, nice curves, nice seats, glossy paint and you should buy it for it is nice to have one.

    Have anyone question about the quality of fuel available on the market? Did it improve over time?
    seems like you've always been pessimistic with the way car manufacturers make their automotive sir ^_^
    by the way, how do you define a fuel efficient car? a car that can go up to 20km/liter? a camry/accord/galant that can also have the same fuel consumption? have you checked all car systems, that you concluded that all of them have the same old inefficient setup? ^_^
    just asking and wondering... ^_^
    I think it's an insult and unfair to automotive engineers to say that they are disregarding fuel efficiency in their design. I think there are other external factors to be included, especially here in the Philippines.
    If there is no improvement, then it should have been noticed on top reviews from the experts. And I guess, not all of them are paid by the manufacturers. hehe

    Anyway, going back to the topic, if I were to choose with the following characteristics that the TS indicated
    1. Fuel Efficiency
    2. Porma
    3. Value for Money

    I'd go for either VIOS or FOCUS

  10. #40
    I can understand your reaction. It is very much expected.

    20km/liter of gasoline is too small to label a car as fuel efficient. We can do better than that when we have to.

    I am only telling you the facts and yes car manufacturers today cannot give you a fuel efficient car. Engineers are good in following what they are told to do and it is a fact also.
    It is all about business plan and they are working with the oil suppliers. When it is not on their business plan to give you a 20km per liter of petrol (mixed city and highway driving) car today, you cannot have it straight from the factory. If you look at the patents by car manufacturers, there are designs made by them that can improve fuel efficiency but you can't just have them today for reasons they don't want you to know.

    What do you think where did those 200mpg carburetors go? What happened to inventors who are able to use water as fuel with no petrol and inventors who publicly announced their work that they are able to improve fuel efficiency more than a 100% from what you can have today? What happened to the firestorm spark plugs?

    Until you open your eyes for reality and until you do the extra effort with an open mind to understand how a combustion engine should work, you will never understand why cars today are simply inefficient. We should not be running any of these combustion engines if the technology of Tesla were not suppressed in the first place.

    Face the facts that you cannot get a fuel efficient car until such time you correct the design flaws intentionally installed as part of the manufacturing process.

    Here's a link for you to read when you start asking the right questions:

    Oil industry suppressed plans for 200-mpg car - Times Online

    Another good source of information for your reference.

    Panacea University - Courses

    Start thinking "freely" what you can do to improve your car's fuel efficiency. Get out of the box where you are right now and open your mind for endless possibilities.


    Quote Originally Posted by harphaul View Post
    seems like you've always been pessimistic with the way car manufacturers make their automotive sir ^_^
    by the way, how do you define a fuel efficient car? a car that can go up to 20km/liter? a camry/accord/galant that can also have the same fuel consumption? have you checked all car systems, that you concluded that all of them have the same old inefficient setup? ^_^
    just asking and wondering... ^_^
    I think it's an insult and unfair to automotive engineers to say that they are disregarding fuel efficiency in their design. I think there are other external factors to be included, especially here in the Philippines.
    If there is no improvement, then it should have been noticed on top reviews from the experts. And I guess, not all of them are paid by the manufacturers. hehe

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