Is Philippines better off as a Communist country?!

[jugs_06]

why do i like the idea of isolation? let me put it this way, a lot of people read the bible. before, it wasn't like that. i think catholic church during the spanish did not allow people to read it (IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA, for me). what happened now? we have a lot of christian denominations. is it good?

like me, i like that idea being isolated, but i think you disagree with simply because we are not united.

yes, we have freedom and democracy, can ask a simple question, what's happening to philippines now?

you're not even giving any basis with your question.. you're emphasizing on the "communism" ideology that NoKor is protraying in modern times but how do you see NoKor as of now? don't tell me NoKor is far more better than the Philippines because of their "isolation" coz i bet a lot of people will disagree with you on that.. and i agree with franklin, there's nothing wrong with democracy and don't blame the "form of government" with what we're going through.. blame the people who are running it and the people who holds power (the citizens)..

[bcasabee]

Gubat jud? Wala nay lain? See what I told you before? Marxism is so simple, yet when applied to the real world.....magpinatyanay na nuon....for what? to suppress the other people who don't like the idea? i pugos jud? Mao nay akoang gi ingon nga it won't apply because its only an ideal model......it can't be applied to the real world kay mosamot ang kagubot.....

di man na i implement bai mo struggle man ta ana. it is class war baya. we shd read more on it. kay it is very educational baya bai bcasabee, then maybe we shd understand the armed struggle. ngano naay mag rebelde...

[The_Child]

But bisan unsaon ug implement ana diri...........dili jud na mahimo............... All i can say is that the Spirit of Man knows no limitation.


understand the armed struggle. ngano naay mag rebelde... yes the armed struggle, for Marx the only means towards the next level. Personally, i have my reservation against armed struggle. I still dont believe in it.

Btw, I never said that Communism is best for the Philippines. I only sed it would be an achievement of sorts.


nya just try to educate as much of the masses as possible to improve the quality of life for everyone. Kaso lang pinaka dako man unta ug budget ang education, kulang permi gamit ug classroom Marx pointed out that the Consciousness of the people, culture, time, country.... is based on the economic background of the people. So to cut a very lengthy discussion short, those who control the general and basic form of production in society controls how people think with certain limitations to those who are aware of the situation. So no matter how much budget you pour down to education, the basic thinking of the people will always be grounded in the economic production of the society to which he/she belongs. a more concrete example would have been given but i deem it too tedious since it would be a lengthly discussion on history.

[The_Child]

Marxism is so simple, yet when applied to the real world

Marxism is not simple.
Marxism is not simple.
Marxism is not simple.
Marxism is not simple.

can't be applied to the real world kay mosamot ang kagubot..... that is yet to be proven.

to suppress the other people who don't like the idea? more like Mao on his Cultural revolution than Marx.


p.s Marxism is not simple.

[bcasabee]

Hehehe.....simple ra kaayo lagi.....what makes it complicated when you will try to apply it to the real world...

"can't be applied to the real world kay mosamot ang kagubot" I said this at the thought at the back of my mind that the people who will attempt to apply it are just mere human, I don't believe they have the capability of implementing.....they will do more harm than good....and its already proven by many countries who were attempting to implement it...they all have hilaw nga communism, agree?....kung Ginoo pa nuon ang mo apply aning communism sa kalibutan......aw pwerteng nindota...........

[The_Child]

Just what do you mean simple?

to simplify Marx is to show ignorance of the subject.

kung Ginoo pa nuon ang mo apply aning communism sa kalibutan......aw pwerteng nindota........... a reason why Marx mentioned that religion is the opiate of the people. He borrowed it from Feuerbach's Religious alienation.

[wak_wak]

Balhin nalang mo North Korea or China if ganahan mo communism, then tell us kung maau ba ang communist country..

Tan awun nimu ang communist country mura nindot, coz control ang media and wala freedom ang mga taw so di ma expose ang mga negative, even ang internet and tv kay filtered, unsa man naka nice ana? In front maau ang communist, pero daghan diay tinaguan..

[monrose29]

if we change the system then lets change our leaders too,

changing our government system now in to cummunist will only making the situation in to very worst..

can somebody here explain and give some benefits or a advantage if we have this communism form of government?

why we always compare our country to nortk korea, china, and some other countries who succeed of that kind of government, we are not koreans, we are not chinese,

we are filipino, and what ever government system we have if still our leaders are corrupt, then what u think would happen to us?

we are known of rebellion, we have NPA

and some KMU, GABRIELLA, BAYAN MUNA, etc....

and to add MILF, ABUSAYAF,

to make it strong let me add the group of LACSON and HONASAN

lets have some war pinoy kapwa pinoy.......

[franklin]

marxism ideology is just making things more complicated in this imperfect world. You sure? hehehe. there are those who would disagree with that thought. Count me as one of them. though one thing is for sure, A course on Marx isnt the easiest of subjects.

its making things more complicated because it could not be implemented in the real world except siguro if parehas siguro og huna2x ang tanang people parehas sa langit

can't be applied to the real world kay mosamot ang kagubot..... that is yet to be proven.

unsa on pag prove ana nga murag imposible man i implement because our imperfections.
parehas ra na anang sa math nga magdivide ka og any number by zero. at first magtuo ta nga pwedi i divide ang number by zero pero in reality, dili gyud pwedi kay indeterminite diay ang equation

[Kclan]

OT: With due respect jugs06, i didn't say that Nokor is better than pinas and i never blamed our form of government.

i know that in communism, government dictates everything for its own people. there is a dictator, but what if he is a good one, what if he cares truly with his country? do you think it will work? i guess so. a dictator should be a father to his fellowmen rather than acting like a god.
you're right, that's the fault of the people who runs the government, same thing as the people who runs a communist country.

yes, we have freedom and democracy, the freedom to oppose everything (personal or political reasons).

my point here is beyond communism and democractic-form of government. - "how about we isolate ourselves to other countries and at the same time, practice freedom within ourselves". it's like "let sit down and talk about our problems". putting some questions like "what's wrong with our economy and our people?" "why aren't we united?".

peace