Which is better: Toyota Hiace Super Grandia or Hyundai Grand Starex (Gold Variant)?

[BIGDANE]

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Toyota Hiace Super Grandia gyud...very realiable...bisag naay vhire and for rent ani, meaning lig.on gyud...plano mi palit pero murag dako ra gyud kaayo para namo...pero ok gyud kaayo

[jojo_mouth]

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elow sir prince_achilles...
ang starex sakng lola ky crdi turbo intercooler sya. technically, d ko maka explain in details about turbo.
correct me if i'm wrong lng mga masters...
sa akong nahibaw an, ang turbo ky mutabang ug boost sa engine's horsepower.
pero ang turbo ky dli na sya ma gamit dayon2. mu work lng na sya or ma trigger lng na sya at a certain speed. for example, sa akong tarak2, mu work lng sya kng mu abot nko ug 80km/h nga dagan. nya mas gaan na paminawn ang makina. ahm, i'm not sure if ma lessen na ang workload sa makina.
and ingon sa uban, mas kusog dw dagan kng nai turbo hehe

ang timailhan nga nai something wrong na ang turbo ky kng nai oil makita nga nigawas sa turbo, or kanang murag nai talinis dw nga metallic sound ika dagan.

sa akong lola, naguba ang turbo ky wla kuno gamit2. wla na ni andar haha. but i don't think that's enough reason para maguba ang turbo to think nga months pa lng to nga gamit nya. anyway, gi ilisan man dw to ug unit. dghan factory defects, apil ang transmission.

Going back to the topic,
in fairness pd sa starex, ok baya jd xa, especially ang interior nya. mas lapad lang jd sya compared sa Super Grandia. comfortable mnpd sya,pero mas comfortable lng jd ang Super Grandia. and then ang makina sa starex naa sa gawas, so mas ok sya kng check2x kysa hi ace. and honestly, kng mag test drive sa 2, neck to neck battle sya. hehe
But I will stick to Super Grandia, based lng sa nakita nko and na experience pd. hehe proven nmn ang hiace for years bsan ingon sa uban murag ref nga nai ligid haha

If I may add on this turbo issue. The starex uses VGT (Variable Geometry Turbocharger), unlike the Grandia where it uses Conventional Turbo. VGT may lessen the "Turbo Lag" but in the long run, it is more delicate since it has moving vanes inside the turbine, prone to damage as it has more moving parts.. While the Conventional Turbo use by the Grandia, may have longer life span..

All turbo chargers boost at a certain RPM (usually 2,500 rpm up for diesel). VGT actuates a little lower RPM bcoz of its variable vanes that directs/ redirects the flow of exhaust gas going to the turbine blades.. so if your turbo diesel engine run on lower RPM, turbo doesn't work and will just give you "muffler effect" which is commonly known as "TURBO LAG"..

[disenchanted]

Both Toyota and Hyundai owner here but SUVs lang. So far maayu man ang duha.. I dunno sa performance sa mga vans.. But i believe ang Toyota mas better when it comes to availability of spare parts and mas better in terms of service. Hyundai, medjo mahal mahal sila ug parts and sometimes dili pa available dayun, and i dont know why mahal, pero ok ang service..

If you go for Hyundai, well, we cant really say na its tried and tested na ang Starex. But if we talk about Toyota Grandia Vans, well take a good luck at those van-for-hires.. tried and tested na.

[cjmagowan]

naa na guro na prob daan ang engine bro before pa nakuha sa imo lola... d man guro na madaut dayn ang turbo bsag way gamit2x...

Sa (pajero hnuon) suv hnuon nmo sauna talagsa ra namo gamit ang turbo.. kana lng naa mi sa national hiway ug srp. surplus pa jud to pero ok pa ghapon ang turbo ... nindot paminawon ang sound sa engine kng active na ang turbo. naguba nlng iya alternator ug radiator pero ang turbo ug engine ky ok pa kaau. ako lng gibaligya ky ako nlng tig.gamit nya dako sakyanan murag d practical pra nko..

pra nko.. nindot ang duha ka vans.. naa ra jud na sa preference sa tao.. ok nman ang korean cars ky taud2x nsad bya pud na cla. nindot pud ila mga crdi daw compared sa d4d

[godwhacker]

Kasakay na ko ining duha.
Grandia ug-ug/untol. hilom sa sud. kusug modagan
Starex nindot sakyan pero morag kusug ang engine roar sa sulod. Kusug modagan.
Grandia d4d ang makina. Akong brod kay nagpadagan ug VHire magka problema kay usahay motirek. Giilisan na ug bomba, so far nabut-an kuno.
Starex way problema sa makina pero mahal ug pyesa/huwat ka minimum 1 ka buwan kung maguba. pero tungod kay brand new way problema.
Pinaka importante ang warranty...
Grandia 3 year warranty
Starex 5 year warranty

[godwhacker]

go for japanese model rather than korea............

why what's wrong with korean?

no.1 in video technology now is Samsung. Used to be Sony before as an example.

[jojo_mouth]

If I were to choose of the two, I would prefer Starex becoz of some personal reasons:

> Grandia sobra kadako, kinahanglan ka ug personal driver which I dont have one.
> Starex has the engine front, safe during frontal colision.
> Starex has both side sliding doors, easy acces on either side, Grandia has 1 side only.
> Grandia has 3 yr warranty, Starex has 5..
> My wife will never drive Grandia, But she can drive Starex (we have Spacegear which she can drive).

[godwhacker]

^^^ I sent my kids to an exclusive school and guess what? sige nako ug ihap ihap sa mga vans in the school inig kuha nako sa mga bata and I found mas daghan ang new generation starex than the grandia where my kids are studying.

[drapniks]

starex especially the gold one, kosug kaau modagan

[J-spec]

^^ kusog d.i modagan pag gold ang color sir? ehehehe!