Tinuod ba ang christmas?

[jd_cellphone]

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Why man imo mang ibaling imong attention sa mga atheist? they are the contrast of Us, In fact they dont care about our beliefs, if you're a cristian then think and act like a christian not just a waste assumption of which you don't even bother to listen and to think of.

Merry Christmas sa tanan...ako lang gi OT ang atheist gud kay mag wonder ko mag unsa sila sa petsa 24 tungang gabee,...ok balik ta sa topic...ang akoa lang jud ani, wala na gyud ta mahimo lagi sa Dec 25, mao naman judna ang date sa pag celebrate nato ni Jesus, so again TS, ask ko nimo...nituo ka nga bakak ang Dec 25 pero dili ka against sa Christmas itself ,right? so wen manka mag celebrate og Christmas TS?...kun mo hatag ka og greetings ron diri sa istorya, wala diay nimo gi mean na? sama rasad imo gi contradict ang imo gi post,,...Think kuno pag ayo TS....

[jd_cellphone]

good for you to think like that, wala man koy plan mapresidente kapoi manang trabahoa, wla man ko nag dumot sa Dec. 25, "Ang nakasabot mag hinuktok", "Ang wala kasabot mag bagotbot"

Si TS pud oi..hehehe...pina greet paka nga advance merry Christmas unya dakong BAKAK para nimo ang petsa 25,....unsa man gyud imo pasabot TS? pwede nimo elaborate gyud maayo imo point? when man jud imo tagna sa petsa og bulan?

[WengIA]

nah! dugay ra kong nakabalo ani nga pagan holidays ang Christmas oi.sauns! gisunod lang nila jud ang december 25 ang pakataw ni christ tungod kay most of the Gods december 25 man ang birthday.but hunahunaa daw sd nato kung unsa kanindot kung naay christmas.. naa kay madawat nga bonus, daghan mohatag, unya lipay kaayo ang kasagaran sa mga tao etc... ay kog ingna di ka moambit sa kalipay og kasadya? di ka modawat og gifts og di ka modawat og bonus kay lagi paganism ang christmas..nabueng na' maayo pa mobalhin na lang kag pluto kay basin way chritmas didto..hihihihi

[*sludge*]

bitaw, si constantine man nag pa uso ani, kay pagan2x manto siya na secret...hehehe murag bayot nga secret ba..

anyways, dli mana mo matter ang date, ang ato lng maka celebrate ta, suma si gloria gud, iya man gani i balhin ang mga holidays na ma duol sa friday or monday pra mas taas ang vacation, ang importante naa tay holiday ug bonusesoses...hehehehe

[ohohoy]

i believe in christmas..

[yhokz101]

Advance Merry Christmas Istoryans!

are you mocking or just trying to be funny?
just to make things clear here for everyone.. since you are the TS and just for the sake of "waking those in slumber", can you kindly elaborate in details what your interpretation on the video?

[Vien]

Si TS pud oi..hehehe...pina greet paka nga advance merry Christmas unya dakong BAKAK para nimo ang petsa 25,....unsa man gyud imo pasabot TS? pwede nimo elaborate gyud maayo imo point? when man jud imo tagna sa petsa og bulan?

You know my friend, I do greetings, same as good morning, good afternoon, or any of the goods... Dili lang jud ko mag sinalbahis aron lang pugson ang mga tawo nga mo tuo sa akong thread, since christmas day was marked as what it is, a time for loving, caring, or lets just say a time where everything "Boost" or lets say finale, it does'nt mean that you only love or care during christmas it must be everyday of your life dili ba? the reason why I greet? it is because of the true essence of christmas is what I am thinking and not the reason which mostly all people thought.

I am not against Christmas, In fact I love christmas but not to the extent nga maparehas sa inyong gihuna-huna, I don't tolerate counterfeits, and most of all I don't tolerate "LIES".

regarding sa imong gi ingon nga when akong "tagna sa petsa ug buwan?" Mao na ang akong gi pangita pa hangtud karong Panahona ug mga Orasa sa pagkatinuod lang. I will do research and if ever dili nako makit-an wala koy mahimo kay ang Pahanahon adunay kaugalingong Lihok and "Time is of Nature" and "Nature is of God" that's why I wont make any "assumption" God will be the provider of natural information and not "human made" I have basis of what I am saying my friend and if you want to know kindly PM me for some clarification I will be very glad if you want a share of what I had discovered recently.

[redhorse1L]

I hope you were able to read my previous posts:

I think you really misunderstood what Christmas is all about.
Again, Christmas is NOT the ONLY time for love and sharing, and giving gifts.
We are commemorating the birth of Jesus, which makes it special.
Giving gifts are just icing on a cake.

It's like this, if you're married, you celebrate anniversarries with your wife. On that day, you take her to a date, give her gifts, and make it a very special day. Does it mean that's the ONLY day you will treat her as special? or the ONLY day that you will love her?

For many centuries, Christian writers accepted that Christmas was the actual date on which Jesus was born.[16] In the early 18th century, scholars began proposing alternative explanations. Isaac Newton argued that the date of Christmas was selected to correspond with the winter solstice,[10] which the Romans called bruma and celebrated on December 25.[17] In 1743, German Protestant Paul Ernst Jablonski argued Christmas was placed on December 25 to correspond with the Roman solar holiday Dies Natalis Solis Invicti and was therefore a "paganization" that debased the true church.[11] According to Judeo-Christian tradition, creation as described in the Genesis creation narrative occurred on the date of the spring equinox, i.e. March 25 on the Roman calendar. This date is now celebrated as Annunciation and as the anniversary of Incarnation.[18] In 1889, Louis Duchesne suggested that the date of Christmas was calculated as nine months after Annunciation, the traditional date of the conception of Jesus.[19]

The December 25 date may have been selected by the church in Rome in the early 4th century. At this time, a church calendar was created and other holidays were also placed on solar dates: "It is cosmic symbolism...which inspired the Church leadership in Rome to elect the winter solstice, December 25, as the birthday of Christ, and the summer solstice as that of John the Baptist, supplemented by the equinoxes as their respective dates of conception. While they were aware that pagans called this day the 'birthday' of Sol Invictus, this did not concern them and it did not play any role in their choice of date for Christmas," according to modern scholar S.E. Hijmans.[20]

However, today, whether or not the birth date of Jesus is on December 25 is not considered to be an important issue in mainstream Christian denominations; rather, the belief that God came into the world in the form of man to atone for the sins of humanity is considered to be the primary purpose in celebrating Christmas.

I've just saw the video.

Kaluoy intawn, hasta si Captain America, gi-angin pa intawn nga satanas daw.
Basta naay star, satanas. May gali wala gi-apil si Dora the Explorer, sige ra ba to collect ug stars!

Look, I'm not here to defend or give a solid proof that December 25 is indeed the exact birthdate of Jesus.
It really seems to be a bit odd that some people are looking at the other side of the coin.

Most of our Traditions, came from a paganistic root, even Jewish traditions.
Do you know why we light up firecrackers when we celebrate the new year? Because Chinese believes it drives away evil spirits. If you're a Christian, yet you believe that's the way to drive evil sprits, ambot nalang.

Names of months, days, planets, even most of our names come from pagan origin.
Look at the world around you, do you think were still worshipping those pagan gods?

Santa Claus, Christmas tree, gift giving, Stars, parties is NOT Christmas!
They're just inventions of people who either wants to make a more colorful celebration, or make more money out of it.

PS: I hope we don't consider YouTube as the oracle.
Don't you believe in Santa? YouTube just caught him on a tape. wahahaha
YouTube - Santa is Real: Caught on Tape 2006

[Vien]

are you mocking or just trying to be funny?
just to make things clear here for everyone.. since you are the TS and just for the sake of "waking those in slumber", can you kindly elaborate in details what your interpretation on the video?

No Im not mocking or just trying to be funny, I just want to ring the bell for everyone!!!!!! just to get attention.

Sometimes we need to do things like this just to attract some attention.

Interpretation about the video: I think I don't have a feeling for interpreting because it's there it's exactly what you hear and see and feel it's nicely said...

[ghamvhino]

kakuyaw pud ani oi