Pope Benedict says that condoms can be used to stop the spread of HIV

[itzurisen]

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d pa katuo c msg binghay ani.. hehe!tingali misquoted ra daw

[armsmenion]

yes its the best way to get rid of hiv

[armsmenion]

hiv is a big deal jud baie tsk2

[cebulifer]

Speaking of douchebags, one of them got banned here for religious extremism not to mention insulting other members who expressed different opinions. That banned member, who made his debut when Sun.Star Cebu published his letter in April 2009, often preached Christian and Catholic essence in his posts, including the thread below

https://www.istorya.net/forums/manga-...be-banned.html

As for his sense of righteousness, well he had so many other posts and threads that all had something to do with extreme Christianity/Catholicism. In one thread, he even stated that moral values are "exclusively Christian" and that other faiths simply have no moral values.

The banned member's other threads were deleted some time ago.

Had he not been banned, he would most likely have posted opinions dismissing the pope's condom remarks as "misunderstood, misinterpreted".

Hahaha!!! Yeah I remember that guy! Baga pa gyud! Gipost pa gyud ang face pic!

Boto ko aning condom statement ni Pope Benedict. Let's just see what the pinoy priests will do about it?

[mimigs]

it is your right! and it is your god-given right to choose to use so...

but sadly, there are douchebags out there, as well as here in istorya.net who will call you names for your stand.. these people are selfish and have a false sense of righteousness..

lols murag kaila ko ani

[pinoy_09]

i'd like to say CONGRATULATIONS to the Pope, and WELCOME TO THE 21ST CENTURY.

[Xilcher]

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some writers just quote the "AGREE" statement and not on the context...

here's another version...



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Pope Benedict condones condom use in some cases - book - BBC News - BBC News website - RichardDawkins.net



Pope Benedict XVI has said the use of condoms is acceptable "in certain cases", according to a new book.

He said condoms could reduce the risk of infection with HIV, such as for a prostitute, in a series of interviews he gave to a German journalist.

The Vatican newspaper ran excerpts on Saturday.

The comments appear to soften the Roman Catholic Church's hardline stance, which until now had banned the use of any form of contraception.

When asked whether the Catholic Church is "fundamentally against the use of condoms", the Pope is said to have replied, in the book entitled Light of the World: The Pope, the Church and the Signs of the Times:

"It of course does not see it as a real and moral solution.

"In certain cases, where the intention is to reduce the risk of infection, it can nevertheless be a first step on the way to another, more humane sexuality," he said.

The Pope gives the example of the use of condoms by prostitutes as "a first step towards moralisation", even though condoms are "not really the way to deal with the evil of HIV infection".

The pope says that the "sheer fixation on the condom implies a banalisation of sexuality" where sexuality is no longer an expression of love, "but only a sort of drug that people administer to themselves".




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sa binisaya pa...

"certain cases" means.. if for health reasons...ug para daw sa mga tao na dili na mutuo sa s.e.x as form of love.. but lust nalang..

so..the Pope actually is trying to let us think twice...and saying indirectly that s.e.x w/o morals is deadly...setting example like prostitutes..

so its your choice....



[Update News for clarification:]

"The Pope made the statement in response to a German journalist's general question about Africa, where heterosexual HIV spread is rampant."


nara man diay na rason...
.... grabe nga mga journalists..pataka ra jud buhat news.. gi hype dayun w/o studying the whole interview..

tsk tsk tsk.. irresponsible writers jud!

[Saga]

it shows how the church is being passive...
well i hope this will be the first step for the church for being pro-active....

[sharkey360]

Pope's Endorsement of Condoms to Prevent HIV Puts Needed Spotlight on Prevention

WASHINGTON, Nov. 22, 2010 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The Pope's statement that the use of condoms are justified "in the intention of reducing the risk of HIV infection" is a startling and welcome shift by the Vatican that has the potential to save tens of thousands of lives, says Dr. Paul Zeitz, executive director of the Global AIDS Alliance (GAA).

"The Pope has created the possibility of rapid change in the way the Catholic Church views HIV/AIDS and how it can preserve the sanctity of human life," says Dr. Zeitz, adding that GAA stands firmly for sexual and reproductive rights. "The Pope has provided a glimmer of hope that we actually can begin the process of ending the AIDS epidemic rather than believe it is enough to maintain the sick and dying. It never will be."

The Pope's statement is particularly important ahead of the release of the U.N. Report on the Global AIDS Epidemic and the annual marking of the pandemic on World AIDS Day next week. There currently are 33 million people living with HIV/AIDS, which has claimed the lives of 25 million people overall, with more than 7,000 new infections each day.

Reducing infections is impossible without significant advances in prevention, for which condom use is among the most important, Dr. Zeitz emphasizes. Unfortunately, the Pope focuses on the use of condoms by male prostitutes, and he sadly rejects the idea that condoms are a "real or moral solution." But he does underline that reducing infection is a "more humane way" of living sexually "in this or that case."

The Pope also did not address the critical issue of discordant couples, where only one person is HIV-positive and thus risks infecting a partner when a condom is not used. But his statement is a surprising departure, even as the church now says it is not a revolutionary shift. Last year, Pope Benedict XI nonsensically posited that condom use "increases the problem" because he inaccurately said it leads to risky behavior. And his predecessor, Pope John Paul II, insisted that sexual abstinence, not condoms, is the best way to prevent spread of HIV/AIDS.

But the Pope's statement – made in a book-long interview – provides an opening for Catholics involved in HIV/AIDS services, particularly in sub-Saharan Africa where vast numbers of people rely heavily on the Church's services. Catholic aid organizations account for a quarter of AIDS programs in sub-Saharan Africa.

HIV/AIDS also has ravaged African farms, where the number of workers has plummeted, leading to fallow crops, poverty and famine. The earth's sustainability therefore also is strongly tied to HIV/AIDS prevention, which includes the use of condoms.

"This is the critical new voice in our effort to ensure zero new HIV infections," Dr. Zeitz underlines. "The Pope can help amplify the 'prevention revolution' on which GAA is working in concert with UNAIDS."

Pope's Endorsement of Condoms to Prevent HIV Puts Needed Spotlight on Prevention -- WASHINGTON, Nov. 22, 2010 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ --

[sharkey360]

Palace urges Church to show ‘flexibility’

A Malacañang official Monday urged the Catholic Church to show “flexibility” in the face of Pope Benedict XVI’s latest statement on the issue of condoms, even as the local clergy stood fast on its opposition to artificial contraception.

In a book of interviews due out on Tuesday, Benedict says that condom use is acceptable “in certain cases,” notably to reduce the risk of HIV infection
, apparently softening his once hardline view.

“Since the book is not yet available, and I think the bishops of the Philippines have not yet read it, we could not make any definite statement on the matter,” said Msgr. Juanito Figura, secretary general of the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of the Philippines (CBCP).

“For the moment, what is clear as reported is that the Holy Father’s latest teaching on condom use does not in any way change the position of the Church against artificial contraception,” Figura said in a statement.

“He speaks of condom as a permissible tool, not the primary tool, to arrest further spread of the HIV virus. Condom is not the moral solution to the alarming spread of the virus and disease
,” he added.

Presidential spokesperson Edwin Lacierda said that “the Pope has now spoken” and that “maybe it would be best for them (the bishops) to follow the guidance of our Pope.”

Boost to RH bill

Communications Secretary Ricky Carandang said the bishops “cannot be more popish than the Pope.”

He said Benedict’s remarks on the use of condoms in stopping the spread of AIDS “should result in a corresponding flexibility on the part of our Church.”

Asked whether the Pope’s statement would boost the chances of the reproductive health (RH) bill passing in Congress, Carandang said that would be the “net effect.”

The RH bill pushes for the use of contraceptives to stem population growth.

“The Pope has shown some flexibility on an issue that is still controversial here,” Carandang said.

“It’s not controversial in the rest of the world anymore. I think the Pope’s position should inform the position of the local clergy.”

Not about birth control

Retired Catholic bishops warned advocates of the RH bill not to confuse the Pope’s remarks as a promotion of birth control.

“The issue is very clear and the Pope himself made the issue clear that it is not about birth control but AIDS prevention,” Bishop Emeritus Teodoro Bacani said.

Archbishop Emeritus Oscar Cruz said the Pope’s stand on condom use as a “first step toward moralization” was based on an old doctrine. It did not mean that the Pope had softened his stance against using condoms as contraceptives, he said.

“It is an old doctrine and it is good that it is already being brought out,” Cruz said.

Figura, speaking for the Church hierarchy, urged the public to “view this as the Holy Father’s concrete expression of respect and protection of the God-given human life.”

Supporters cautioned

Parañaque Rep. Roilo Golez, author of House Bill No. 13 that seeks to protect the rights of the unborn child, cautioned RH bill proponents against using the Pope’s remarks unfairly.

Referring to House Minority Leader Edcel Lagman, Golez said: “He should not use the Pope’s statement to promote his own agenda … especially since he’s been bashing the Church.”

Cagayan de Oro Rep. Rufus Rodriguez, co-author of HB 13, said: “I urge my colleagues not to use the name of the Pope in vain.”

Lagman, author of the reproductive health measure House Bill No. 96, has said that the Pope’s remarks were a departure from the Church’s ultraconservative approach to contraception, and undermined Church opposition to the RH measure.

Not official

Former Sen. Francisco Tatad, a prolife advocate, said those pushing for the passage of the RH bill should not consider the Pope’s remarks for their advocacy.

“It’s not an official Vatican statement. It doesn’t support the fight for the RH bill,” Tatad said at a forum sponsored by the UP Alumni Association.

Sen. Pia Cayetano said the Pope’s statement would have “far-reaching effects” on combating the spread not only of HIV but also of other sexually transmitted diseases.

Palace urges Church to show ‘flexibility’ - INQUIRER.net, Philippine News for Filipinos