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    Quote Originally Posted by hush232002 View Post
    (The point is the bible can be a dangerous tool to justify violence) as well as the Qur'an.... catholics do not worship mary or the saints or stones or whatever u can think of. this is usualy used by anti catholics to link it to paganism and not following the comandments but we honor them.worhip and honor are two different things. any convinced catholic know this..hehehe!!!!
    sure any book can be taken to the extreme. It was a counter point to Catholics who think that the bible is immune to extremists' violent alibis.

    sure, you can worship or honor any saints even kneel before Mary and ask her intercession, you can do all that and everything the bible prohibits and still be a Christian

    Quote Originally Posted by hush232002 View Post
    yes the Roman Catholic Church has as its ultimate hope and objective - that through prayer, study, and dialogue, the historically separated bodies may come again to be reunited with it.

    Hitler demonstrated a preference for Protestantism over Catholicism, as Protestantism was more open to reinterpretations, especially Positive Christianity, and a non-traditional re-reading of sacred scripture, and because some of its liberal branches had similar views.These views were supported by the German Christians movement, but rejected by the Confessing Church. Hitler remained a formal member of the Catholic Church until his death but had no real attachment to it..
    not only are they after Christians, their deceptive hooks are all over the water inviting Muslims,Buddhists,Wiccans,Hindus to take the bait.

    is this(Hitler n protestantism) another Jesuit propaganda?

  2. #42
    with regards to the natives... the CHURCH had been a major Douchebag.. kung motoo ka, ok.. kung dili, patyon ka.. btaw wui.. if you weren't a catholic before, you had no access to services which otherwise would improve your quality of life....

    it destroyed ancient beliefs and customs.. in says that there is no other way except the catholic way..

    and also remember..

    our Beloved Dr. Jose Rizal was killed for defying the church...

    the spanish weren't evil.. it was the missionaries who where to blame...

  3. #43
    ^^^

    Historically speaking ... this is not also the works of the church . Its the works of the MISSIONARY themsleves who became so wicked and greedy . So like , RMK ... dont GENERALIZE .
    " A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. " - 2nd Amendment , Bill of Rights of the United States of America

  4. #44
    ^^but the missionaries WERE part of the church... they ARE the church....

  5. #45
    They acted on their own . ANg ilahang actions were purely out of their personal judgements and discretions . In short , ni violate sila sa code sa church .

    When SPAIN sent them , they were sent to CHRISTIANIZED the natives but instead , the friars CORRUPTED them .
    " A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. " - 2nd Amendment , Bill of Rights of the United States of America

  6. #46
    what they should do is stop their influence in our government. It does more harm than good.

  7. #47
    So can I safely say that if the church does good... then it was the church... pero if it does bad things then it was because of a person who acted on his own?

    How do we differentiate officially sanctioned church actions from the personal actions of its members? Guess the Inquisition, Holy Wars were personal actions too huh? All those Pope's who didn't do good things... I guess they also acted on their own right?

    Para nako... the church is just like any political organization... it is made up of human beings and is prone to error. Church decisions are actually done via committee... whether its the conclave or the CBCP decision... its just a bunch of people with their own little faults and imperfections... its just like politics... pero the problem is that these people claim to speak for a higher divine power... and assert their divine authority over everyone else.

  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by lazaro4ever View Post
    what they should do is stop their influence in our government. It does more harm than good.
    mao jd! they'll end up as a laughing stuff...

  9. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by SPRINGFIELD_XD_40 View Post
    They acted on their own . ANg ilahang actions were purely out of their personal judgements and discretions . In short , ni violate sila sa code sa church .

    When SPAIN sent them , they were sent to CHRISTIANIZED the natives but instead , the friars CORRUPTED them .
    the church in concept is generally good and for the benifit of mankind... sadly.. those running it are benefiting from mankind..

    the church we have today is the result of their doings...

  10. #50
    ^^very well said... thugh not all, but sad to say nga daghan jd ang ni likoy...

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