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  1. #31

    Quote Originally Posted by colby View Post
    brad, unsa diay purpose ngano nag start ka na thread na ni curious lang ko, dugay naman gud ni tapos naa naman ni hatol then gi appeal napud ni sa mas taas na court.

    I think mas gibasehan jud nila ang testimony ni Jessica Alparo, na naa mismo dikto sa crime scene. Daghan daw inconsistent sa iya mga statement labi na sa duha niya ka affidavit, pero gituohan gihapon siya sa court. Aminado man ni si Jessica na gagamit before ug drugs, pero dili pasabot na wala siya ga sulti sa tinuod.

    Ug i-authenticate tong US passport bato or papers ni Hubert na ni gawas siya sa America, ang problem wala man maka sulti kay dili man mo agree ang US na mo atubang sa court ila official kay naa man sila rules na bwala mo harap sa court ang kinsa man na official.

    About atong naa si Hubert sa US that time, ang ingun sa camp sa Vizconde, pwede man siya ni balik sa Pinas then balik sa states, mao yata na part wala na patunayan nila Webb. Ang iya pud reason ug ngano naa siya dikto walay klaro. Then kani si Webb user man pud ni pati n ang witness. well, "birds on the same feather flock together..."

    Ang disturbing jud kay katong mga evidence na gi-sunog sa crime scene, tapos gi limpio na. Daghan unta to mga evidence na maka sulti pa. Ngano man ila i-lipio unless naa powerful na tawo nag sugo sa ila. Who knows? Pero sayang kaayo na limpio and nasunog ang mga evidences.

    Usa pud ata sa pinaka kusog na evidence kay Hubert Webb ang ila mga maid. Ka remember ko sa hatol, mao ni gi ingun. Ana ang maid, sa around na time na nahitabo ang massacre naka laba siya ug naay dugo na shirt ni Hubert Webb. Ang question sa lawyer,"Paano mo naman na sigurado na dugo nga yon?". Ang answer sa maid," Babae po ako, alam ko po ang ang amoy ng dugo." something like that...Mao na usa sa nag padiin kay Hubert. Ug naa nga siya sa States, ngano lahi man gisulti sa maid. Unsa pud ila mapala if mo apil sila ani? Kinsa man naa money diri na pwede sila mabayaran? unless gusto lang isla mo sulti sa tinuod.

    Ingun si Freddie Webb, naglisod ug identify si Jessica kay Hubert. Ingun si Jessica, "around 6'1, kayumaggi" Ingun si Webb, mestizo ang anak ko at siya ang shortest sa family. Remember dili man mag kaila si Jessica ug Hubert napasama lang siya sa Group tungod sa iya boyfriend. Mao siya na confused, then naa pud gipa identify siya ug kinsa mga suspect.Ingun isla iya gilaktawan ang suspect. Remember nag disguise ang suspect, pero sa end iya gihapon na identify pag check niya balik.

    Taas na kaayo ako gisulti, balik ra unya ko , kani ra sa..

    My Purpose was to share to everyone to know the two sides of the story and the truth and how lame can be, our legal system is. yeah its old, but its not even solve cause theres still SC to conclude this case.


    Dude, do you think its possible to comeback to Philippines in 1 day? think of that, were on the both ends of the world. it even takes 24hours to go to US. plus the FBI shows that in a long span of time, Hubbert was in the US. do you think USA will manipulate the records?


    ofc, the USA will not allow their Secretary State to witness (OMG, he/shes the busiest secretary i can say in the World. example: Hillary Clinton) and FBI Chief, because it an insult to them. lol


    theres no such thing as you get jailed without proving, have you seen the case of that Nursing Girl Gang Raped? the 6 suspects were freed due to lack of evidences. its even a good points to the defendants because Mr, Visconde cleaned up all the evidences in their house after the massacre..


    bro, ikaw man guro pataka. you based it on our Legal System. do you get jailed from nothing? i mean there were no evidences, theres only 1 witness. not even credible. against a lot of evidences + witness of the defendant. Even the NBI Chief handling that case before said, he cannot believe that hubbert got jailed, and to think Webb, the NBI chief and Visconde are all in the same village. its like you get jailed from Hear say. No wonder Mr visconde is not happy at all cause he knows he is putting an innocent person to jail, he even went to a Psychic just to provide the NBI Names of Suspects, do you think its valid? lol.

  2. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by Jantehshiznit View Post
    uu cla ra ghpon. tanawa ang links, grabe ka bati ang pag ruling sa corte. bsan ang America na tinga nganu na priso cya na mismo ang FBI ni confirm naa cya sa States on the time the massacre happened. (confirmed with evidences on the paper pa jud, na insulto gud ang america ani, ma makak ba kaha na cla? murag ang Pinoy man guro puros mga anomalya) mao na guro ni uso sa pinaka bati na ruling sa pilipinas. looy lang ko.
    The note submitted by the United States Embassy along with the reports provided by the FBI were not admitted in court by the then presiding judge. These were deemed fake without even investigating! Another reason these were not admitted was no one from the US embassy would testify in court. Eh hellooo? Nasa US law kaya na bawal sila magmeddle. The Webbs asked for DNA testing but then again Judge Tolentino won't allow it. Because for them the star witness Jessica Alfaro's words were enough to convict. Isinantabi ang evidence at mas pinaniwalaan ang durugistang witness! This is how shi tty our justice system is, walay kwenta. Only in the Philippines!

  3. #33
    about oour judicial system? isa ra ako maka sulti.. kung wala ka kwarta unya bisg suspect raka.. pwede ka ma priso up to 2 years ambot ngano dugay kau nila ma conclude ang case..

    kung naa ka kwarta bisag convicted pa ka, maka suroy suroy ra ka sa gawas kung naa ka pang pyansa kay ang warrant of arrest dugay kaau ma issue.. tsk tsk

  4. #34
    dugaya na ani na case

  5. #35
    hahay! Paabot lang ta sa SC ani! daghan pang kaso gi-atiman!

  6. #36
    ^^ang luoy ky ang mga inosent. nag-antus sa prisuhan basin wala silay sala...

  7. #37
    Vizconde fears acquittal
    Claims SC justice lobbying for Webb

    By Cathy C. Yamsuan, Radyo Inquirer
    Philippine Daily Inquirer

    MANILA, Philippines—(UPDATE) Lauro Vizconde fears that the men who killed his wife and two daughters in 1991 may be freed because a Supreme Court justice is purportedly trying to convince colleagues to reverse the conviction issued by then Parañaque Judge Amelita Tolentino.

    Vizconde refused to identify the justice who had inhibited himself from the case, but said that before the latter became an official of the tribunal, he testified in favor of principal accused Hubert Webb during the trial at the sala of Tolentino, who is now a justice of the Court of Appeals.

    The widower claimed in separate interviews on Thursday with the Philippine Daily Inquirer at his residence in BF Homes, Parañaque City, and Radyo Inquirer over “Kumpadres” with Willy Matawaran and Chito dela Vega that it was another Supreme Court justice who had told him of the purported ongoing effort to have Webb acquitted.

    He also said his relatives were disturbed by efforts of Webb’s supporters to gather sympathy for the rape-murder convict via social networking sites like Facebook and Flickr. (See related story on this channel).

    A “Justice for Hubert” webpage on Facebook, for example, features videos of Webb in Disneyland bearing the date July 3, 1991, and footage of him at Lake Tahoe dated April 6, 1991, in an apparent effort to show he was somewhere else when the crime was committed.

    Webb and at least six others were given life sentences for the murders of Estrellita Vizconde and her daughters Carmela, 18, and Jennifer, 7, in June 1991.

    Mother and daughters died of multiple stab wounds. Carmela was said to have also been raped before being stabbed. (See What Went Before on this channel).

    Late October, Webb’s lawyers submitted a motion for acquittal, claiming his constitutional right was violated when the state, “through negligence or willful suppression, failed to produce the semen sample that could have proven [his] innocence.”

    ‘Ginagapang’ (Strongly lobbied)

    Speaking in Filipino, Vizconde said “so many things can still happen because some forces are out there to reverse the truth.”

    He claimed that the justice helping Webb was using the delay caused by the Supreme Court’s decision to defer a review of the case to convince other justices to reverse the conviction.

    “There are some people, especially those with ties to the accused, who are moving [to cause an acquittal],” Vizconde said. “These people are being seen with a justice who testified [in favor of the defense]. He is the one trying to find a way to influence the outcome of the review, I believe.”

    Aside from being a witness for the defense, the justice is related by affinity to Webb. The justice’s wife is a cousin of the convict’s mother, Vizconde said.

    Reached for comment, Supreme Court spokesman Jose Midas Marquez said: “I think that is pure speculation. I don’t think any justice can influence another in deciding the guilt or innocence of an accused. And justices are known to decide in accordance with their respective conscience.”

    The widower said it was his anxiety over the outcome of the case that had forced him to go to the media.

    Asked whether he believed that the justice was taking advantage of the delay in the resolution of the case, Vizconde replied in the affirmative with certainty: “Tiyak na sinasamantala. Hindi lang ginagapang, inaayos niya.( I am very sure he’s taking advantage. He’s lobbying and fixing the case.)”

    Asked again why he seemed so sure, Vizconde said his “reliable information” had come from another justice of the high court.

    Vizconde also said the Internet webpages indicating sympathy for Webb were “an obvious attempt at mind conditioning.”

    “My relatives said the contents insist on his innocence. They want to change public perception,” he complained.

    Vigil for justice

    Vizconde and a number of sympathizers kept vigil in front of the Supreme Court building in Manila on Monday night, in anticipation of the tribunal’s final decision on the case.

    But the move was not meant to put pressure on the high court, Vizconde said.

    “I just want justice for my lost loved ones,” he said, adding:

    “I am appealing to the justices. We had our vigil rally just to remind them that we are praying that the Lord may enlighten their mind so they will pass a fair and just resolution.

    “There was no intention to interfere in their decision. We would like to show them that we are praying at least to get a just and fair resolution. I think it was misinterpreted by the justices, that we are pressuring them. But no, that’s not our [intention].”

    Source: http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquire...ears-acquittal

  8. #38
    The Vizconde Case

    MANILA, Philippines – The story was in the crime and the carnage—and in the names. On the morning of June 30, 1991, a mother and her two daughters were found slaughtered in their own home. Estrellita Vizconde, 47, sustained 13 stab wounds; Carmela, 18, had 17 wounds and had been raped before she was killed; and Jennifer, 7, had 19 wounds.

    Tagged as the “Vizconde Massacre,” the gruesome crime gripped the nation for years, made even more riveting by the involvement of scions of influential families: Hubert Webb, son of former senator and then incumbent congressman Freddie Webb; Antonio ”Tony Boy” Lejano, son of actress Pinky de Leon; Michael Gatchalian and Miguel Rodriguez, sons of prominent lawyers; Peter Estrada, son of a wealthy businessman; Pyke Fernandez, son of a retired commodore; Joey Filart, believed to be a relative of former Capital Region Command Chief Marino Filart, and Dong Ventura, son of a businessman.

    The investigation and subsequent trial unfolded many angles and versions, but to Judge Amelita Tolentino, the eyewitness account of Jessica Alfaro—a confessed drug addict who only surfaced four years after the crime—proved superior to the defense of all the accused.

    It all started with a small-time drug deal at the parking lot of the Alabang Commercial Center in Muntinlupa on the night of June 29, 1991, Alfaro testified in open court. She was with the suspects when they bought a gram of shabu from Ventura, her dealer. After a shabu session, Webb decided to proceed to Carmela’s house on Vinzons Street, BF Homes Subdivision. He wanted Alfaro to join them because Carmela’s mother only allowed her daughter to go out and entertain female visitors.

    The gang was on board three vehicles—a blue Mazda pickup, a blue-gray Nissan Patrol and Alfaro’s white Mitsubishi Lancer. When they arrived, Alfaro talked briefly with Carmela, who said she could not entertain them then, but asked them to come back later.

    After another shabu session at the Alabang parking lot, Alfaro and Estrada, then her boyfriend, returned to the Vizconde house. Again Carmela asked Alfaro to come back before midnight. On their way back to Alabang, however, Alfaro and Estrada saw Carmela driving to drop off a man, who seemed to be her boyfriend. Alfaro said she reported all these to Webb.

    The group sniffed more shabu and cocaine before returning to the Vizconde house at around 11:45 p.m. By then, Alfaro said, Webb had hatched his plan to rape Carmela. Alfaro signalled their arrival by flashing her headlights twice. The gate had been left open for them to enter, and Alfaro, Webb, Lejano and Ventura alighted from their cars.

    Alfaro recounted that as Webb followed Carmela into the dining room, she decided to step outside for a smoke. From there she saw Lejano and Ventura take a knife from the kitchen drawer, while the rest of the gang acted as lookouts.

    By Alfaro’s account, Estrellita was killed before Webb began to rape Carmela. Jennifer was roused from sleep and, seeing Webb violating her sister, she jumped on Webb’s back. This angered Webb, who hurled the little girl to a wall and started stabbing her. Alfaro said that when she went back to the house, she saw the bodies of Estrellita and Jennifer on the bed and Webb raping Carmela on the floor. Lejano and Ventura also took turns raping Carmela, before finishing her off with numerous stabs.

    The three vehicles sped away to a house at the BF Executive Village. There, Webb, Ventura and Lejano blamed one another for the crime, and it was because of their bickering, Alfaro said in her testimony, that she was able to piece together the order of events.

    A policeman, Gerardo Biong, arrived while Alfaro was still with the group. Webb asked him to fix their “mess,” and Biong later destroyed vital physical evidence, including bloodied bedsheets, carpets, clothing and other items at the crime scene.

    Two sets of suspects were later arrested by the police—in October 1991 and June 1993—but, for lack of evidence, they were all released. It took her four years to muster the courage to testify in June 1995, Alfaro said, because she had to overcome her addiction to drugs. She also said she had been warned to keep silent. Her sworn statement did not mince any words. “I saw Hubert with bare buttocks on top of Carmela,” she said.

    The accused denied Alfaro’s allegations, but in August 1995, the Justice Department panel found probable cause against the accused, and rape with homicide charges were subsequently filed against Webb, Lejano, Rodriguez, Fernandez, Gatchalian and Estrada before the Parañaque Regional Trial Court. They were detained at the Municipal Jail, together with accessory Biong, while Ventura and Filart remain at large to this day.

    During the trial, the prosecution presented only seven witnesses. Aside from Alfaro and the doctor who autopsied the victims’ bodies, two former housemaids of the Webb family were presented. They testified that Webb was in the country on the day of the crime. One of them, Mila Gaviola, even claimed she washed the bloodstains off Webb’s shirt on the morning of June 30, 1991.

    BF Homes security guards Justo Cabanacan and Normal White also testified at the trial. Cabanacan said Webb had entered the subdivision a few days before the massacre and that he even identified himself as the son of then Congressman Webb. White, on the other hand, said he saw the three cars enter the subdivision on the night of June 29, as Alfaro had testified.

    There was also Lolita Birrer who testified that she had accompanied Biong, her former live-in partner, to the Vizconde house to destroy the evidence and to retrieve Webb’s jacket and the murder weapon. She also testified that Biong received money at a house that she later learned belonged to then Rep. Freddie Webb.

    Questioning Alfaro’s credibility, the defense panel submitted voluminous documents and presented 95 witnesses, including Webb himself and his father, along with other relatives and friends, to establish the defense’s main argument: that Hubert Webb was in the US on the night of the crime. The arguments of Webb’s co-accused also hinged on this premise.

    The defense submitted a number of documents to back this claim, among them certifications from the US government. The defense likewise filed successive motions to inhibit Judge Tolentino on the ground of bias, but no less than the Supreme Court dismissed the petition. The Court of Appeals also sustained the judge’s decision to deny the petition for bail.

    On November 15, 1999, the motion for reconsideration was denied with finality, paving the way for the decision of the case.

    The verdict: Guilty beyond reasonable doubt. The sentence: life imprisonment for the principal accused. They were also ordered to pay Lauro Vizconde, father of Carmela and Jennifer, more than P3 million for damages and legal fees. As an accessory to the crime, Biong was sentenced to 11 to 12 years of imprisonment.

    In her decision, Judge Tolentino described the testimony of many defense witnesses as full of inconsistencies. Photographs and videotapes showing Hubert in America also appeared to be tampered, Tolentino said. The alibis presented by the accused failed to convince the court that they were not in the Vizconde residence on the night of the crime.

    A day after the verdict was pronounced, Lauro Vizconde visited his family’s graves at the Holy Cross Memorial Park in Novaliches, Quezon City. Years of pursuit for justice have made him in an active member of the Volunteers Against Crime and Corruption. “Finally, their souls can rest, and I can start life anew,” he said.

    The accused, on the other hand, began a new life as convicts after they were transferred from the municipal jail to the New Bilibid Prisons in Muntinlupa City.

    The case, however, is far from over, with the defense saying they would pursue the fight for an acquittal. A motion was filed with the Court of Appeals but on December 16, 2005, the appellate court’s 76-page decision only upheld the guilty verdict: “We find no reason to overturn the conviction of the said accused-appellants as we likewise find them guilty beyond reasonable doubt of the crime of rape with homicide,” the CA said.

    The defense moved for reconsideration, but two years later, in January 2007, the appellate court once again affirmed the conviction.

    The hopes of the defense were not at all dashed, however. Vitaliano Aguirre II, Webb’s lawyer since the onset of the case in 1995, said that “the next step is to go to the Supreme Court and file a petition for certiorari to have the case reviewed again.”
    Vizconde is just as anxious to see finality in the case. “I have learned to forgive them. I can sleep soundly now,” he said in a past interview. “But I will only have closure when the Supreme Court affirms the decision. That’s when I shall feel fully vindicated.”

    Source: The Vizconde Case - INQUIRER.net, Philippine News for Filipinos

  9. #39
    You guys better do some more reading and a more thorough research before you go disparaging our Justice System like that. It's spine-tingling how people are now trumpeting Hubert Webb's innocence.

  10. #40
    gi news na sd ra ba ni sila gabii...

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