CUESHE incident!! (drum related)

[reygie]

Reygie... you'll never get it bai unless drummer ka .. either you gig around or dili.

Most musicians bring their own gear sa gigs... (unless the venue or promoters/producers provide kits) especially snare drums `cause a snare drum is a more personalized sound more than anything else. ----------------

And about CEBU vs MANILA crap ... I think VINCI is way above that petty thing. We're talking about a professional here... dili taw nga mobo ug pangutok.

Reygie... about this comment "So, sa ato pa....palpak iyang pag hangyo (kuno) sa drummer sa cueshe ma-o nga iyang gisibya sa tanan....so, unsa man ang nahitabo karon? Wla man gihapon, so that means....accident ra to if ever man tinuod nga nahitabo to. Tanan unta drummer nga nagsunod ug play sa cueshe nireklamo...nganong siya raman?"

** if you also scroll back a few pages.. this thing has already been explained several times. Let me enlighten you a bit :: Most gigs diha, the promoter or producer hires a technical rider to supply the instruments.. a contract is signed and a security deposit is handed over to cover damages.... Now, if a musician wrecks an equipment, covered na to siya sa kontrata.... sa scenario ni VINCI, he brought his own equipment.. he is not covered by any security deposit or contract. I guess this will explain why ni reklamo si Vinci..

By the way.. you'll read CUJO's comment about CUESHE's drummer .. he wasn't specific about it but it will give you an idea ...."it's this simple... drummer ko and i've played right after cueshe'. this message sends fair warning.."

(CUJO was URBAN DUB's original drummer.. and now plays for Sheila and the Insects.. man, I hope Cujo doesn't mind me spilling his identity... ).

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Bro., kapoy man lalis ning one sided ra ang story uy......sa ako lang ba. Makapangutana ta nga....
1. Ang nag dismantle man kaha sa drums niya ang crew sa cueshe ug dili ang drummer jud. That could maybe mean.....nag assume ang drummer sa cueshe nga iyaha nang drum head nga gi hapak pag-ayo?
2. Naa man unta contract covered sa mga instruments....why man iya ning gi-break....nagdala-dala man hinuon siya sa iyang super flawless nga drum heads.
3. And lastly.......unsa kaha ang atong makuha kung ang drums ni vinci naguba?
Kani ako bro. opinyon ra ni ha....para pud ma lively ang thread ba. Bati man pud dili ta mangutana.....or lisod lang jud ko pasabton.

[reygie]

siguro tan-aw nimo lingaw cya tan-awon...but if u were just a musician, its not lingaw or not lingaw...its a normal thing that every other musicians in this forum knew. FYI even other drummers bring their own pedals, cymbals ug unsa panang gamiton nya nga dili nimo normally makita sa usual nga set..artists gani sa states usually haul their own kits every performance. and i think dili cya lingaw or kataw-anan tan-awn. theyre professionals, if i were to describe them.

Will I think that sucks!!!!

[greggy]

Will I think that sucks!!!![IMG]http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b326/apollo440/th59d77734

fine. stay with that then.

[Kclan]

not cool

[EZRA]

REYGIE:
1. How can a drummer assume nga iyaha ang kit? Surely he'll know what kit he has, what cymbal he uses, what snare drum he uses and ESPECIALLY how it SOUNDS! He has no business sitting behind the kit if he's not aware of all these things...

2. Walay contract involved... Vinci brough his own equipments, bought from his hard-earned money .. dili super flawless ang heads ni Vinci (I know you're being sarcastic) pero bag-o ra niya gi mount.

3. Walay makuha ug gub-on ang drumhead bai, .. pero kini sab ang pangutana... ngano imo mang gub-on nga kabalo man ka nga dili imoha?

[reygie]

REYGIE:
1. How can a drummer assume nga iyaha ang kit? Surely he'll know what kit he has, what cymbal he uses, what snare drum he uses and ESPECIALLY how it SOUNDS! He has no business sitting behind the kit if he's not aware of all these things...

2. Walay contract involved... Vinci brough his own equipments, bought from his hard-earned money .. dili super flawless ang heads ni Vinci (I know you're being sarcastic) pero bag-o ra niya gi mount.

3. Walay makuha ug gub-on ang drumhead bai, .. pero kini sab ang pangutana... ngano imo mang gub-on nga kabalo man ka nga dili imoha?

Bro., somehow you failed to quench my doubt. Palihug ko basa pagbalik sa akong questions.....ang imong mga tubag wla nahisubay sa akong pangutana, nga nahisubay sa letter nga nahipatik sa 1st page sa thread. Anyway, naa kay article unsa ang side sa drummer sa cueshe para naay tay pagabasihan?

[EZRA]

REYGIE... unsa imong pasabot sa first question? Imong gipasabot nga tingali nag tuo ang drummer sa Cueshe nga iyaha ang drumhead kay tingali gi ilisan sa iyang crew ang head sa snare? Bai.... I think every drummer has his own preference... drum head, brand, type of head, tuning, etc...... magtuo pa kaha ka nga wala kabalo ang drummer sa CUESHE sa iyang gi gamit? He is a professional drummer... he should know.

Question 2: AGAIN... (morag klaro man to akong tubag.. akong usbon) ... WALAY CONTRACT INVOLVED kay he's using his own instrument... they're not hiring a technical rider or bisag nag rent nalang ug drums... WALAY SECURITY DEPOSIT kay drums mismo ni VINCI ang gi gamit. Nakig fill-in ra ang CUESHE. (I think klaro na ni). VINCI stated this in his statement sa first page... He took out some of his setup but left a majority of it kay mao lagi, they have to play another set after CUESHE kay ni guest ra ang CUESHE. Ug wala ka kasabot ngano, mao ni bai.... it takes 20-45 min to setup a drumkit (depends upon the size of the kit) ... hasol na kaayo ug I breakdown nimo ang imong setup and jut to put it back up in 30 min.

QUESTION 3: AGAIN.. walay makuha ug ang drums ni VINCI maguba... pero ngano man gyud gub-on nga naki gamit raman ka sa drums. Respeto lang unta sa tag iya sa drums kay nanghuwam ra ka. Ang kang VINCI lang, he just wanted to warn other drummers ... tingalig ma igo sab sila sa kalaki aning drummer sa Cueshe.

------------------------ hanap lang ba gihapon ang tubag? Or lisod lang gyud ka pasabton.

Walay article gikan sa CUESHE... I know nga nag lurk sila sa pinoydrums egroups pero wala sila mo respond. Actually, nag-una pa kuno ang PRESS RELEASE sa CUESHE pero wala pay na dawat nga SUBPOENA or COURT SUMMON si VINCI .... I think CUESHE is all about publicity ra.

[reygie]

REYGIE... unsa imong pasabot sa first question? Imong gipasabot nga tingali nag tuo ang drummer sa Cueshe nga iyaha ang drumhead kay tingali gi ilisan sa iyang crew ang head sa snare? Bai.... I think every drummer has his own preference... drum head, brand, type of head, tuning, etc...... magtuo pa kaha ka nga wala kabalo ang drummer sa CUESHE sa iyang gi gamit? He is a professional drummer... he should know.

Question 2: AGAIN... (morag klaro man to akong tubag.. akong usbon) ... WALAY CONTRACT INVOLVED kay he's using his own instrument... they're not hiring a technical rider or bisag nag rent nalang ug drums... WALAY SECURITY DEPOSIT kay drums mismo ni VINCI ang gi gamit. Nakig fill-in ra ang CUESHE. (I think klaro na ni). VINCI stated this in his statement sa first page... He took out some of his setup but left a majority of it kay mao lagi, they have to play another set after CUESHE kay ni guest ra ang CUESHE. Ug wala ka kasabot ngano, mao ni bai.... it takes 20-45 min to setup a drumkit (depends upon the size of the kit) ... hasol na kaayo ug I breakdown nimo ang imong setup and jut to put it back up in 30 min.

QUESTION 3: AGAIN.. walay makuha ug ang drums ni VINCI maguba... pero ngano man gyud gub-on nga naki gamit raman ka sa drums. Respeto lang unta sa tag iya sa drums kay nanghuwam ra ka. Ang kang VINCI lang, he just wanted to warn other drummers ... tingalig ma igo sab sila sa kalaki aning drummer sa Cueshe.

------------------------ hanap lang ba gihapon ang tubag? Or lisod lang gyud ka pasabton.

Walay article gikan sa CUESHE... I know nga nag lurk sila sa pinoydrums egroups pero wala sila mo respond. Actually, nag-una pa kuno ang PRESS RELEASE sa CUESHE pero wala pay na dawat nga SUBPOENA or COURT SUMMON si VINCI .... I think CUESHE is all about publicity ra.

Okey bro., got it.

[greggy]

sigh............

[sexyis_18]

hello...

FYI, gi-kiha na ni MICHAEL MANALOTO (drummer of cueshe) si VINCI.