CEBU-WIDE ECOZONE: What do you think?

[masakiton]

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question

Haha luoy si maam wurag dili jud kasabot sa simple question, inya ang answer katag kaayo..
"Asa man imong proof sir nga maka afford. Di ba naghulat pa ko sa imong proof?"
Unsa may pasabot nimo ani maam. Be specific. Kinsa man ang maka afford nga imong gipasabot. Specifics maam arun magkasinabot ta (kung possible na kay wurag dili)..

How does what BIGMAN says prove that people will flock to the city? Can you care to answer or are you saying that you can't disprove BIGMAN's posts. Asa naman to si BIGMAN.. wurag ganahan man ka motig debate niya.. sa iyaha nalang pamutana. I can't speak on his behalf. Do you understand maam?

Answer

this would spur economic development .

kay job is everywhere.

Aw pareha ra gihapon. Can you prove that people will flock to the city? Cebu wide man ni, so it will include also areas that are not in cities right?

example
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Japan, Taiwan and South Korea, Asia?s richest large economies, are big magnets for both migrant workers and women marrying into economic security. But there are many other well-trodden paths of intra-Asian migration, for example between Myanmar and Thailand, from the Philippines and Indonesia to Malaysia, and from
Bangladesh to India.

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Is there room for more foreigners in Singapore?
The most recent statistics from the Department of Statistics indicates a rise in the nation’s population to 4.99 million, with foreigners (non-residents) comprising 1.25million of that figure compared to 1.2million the year before. Additionally there are 533,000 Permanent Residents (PRs) a rise of 55,000 from the year before.

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Channel NewsAsia - Private residential rentals set to rise with influx of foreign workers - channelnewsasia.com
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Tomas O chides businessmen for backing ecozone - INQUIRER.net, Philippine News for Filipinos

Osmeña said investors will flock to Cebu instead of Bohol and Negros Oriental since the taxes here would be free.

“So what happens is that people from around us will also come because the jobs are here and we'll end up absorbing the influx of population and have many urban poor and that's another problem we should again solve.”

“We should also consider how national policies will affect Cebu's development as a whole,” Osmeña said, adding that the business sector should also look at the whole scenario from the government's perspective and not only as businessmen.

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Asa man imong proof sir nga daghan na maka afford ug house and lot once ma RA na ang bill?

he or she who makes the first allegation, has the burden of proving the allegation. Your claim, that .

I don't see any evidence that fewer people will be able to afford a house

[reclamador]

CEBU-WIDE ECOZONE ... a very GOOD idea ...

[masakiton]

Aw pareha ra gihapon. Can you prove that people will flock to the city? Cebu wide man ni, so it will include also areas that are not in cities right?

example
Impressions of Manila - Philippines - Monthly Review Articles | Find Articles at CBS MoneyWatch.com

The squatters of Manila are primarily landless, jobless, and hungry rural people who have migrated to the city because wealth and opportunity are concentrated there.

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Stop pampering illegal settlers, says MMDA’s Fernando - INQUIRER.net, Philippine News for Filipinos

According to him, the MMDA’s “Balik Probinsya” program, which offers fare money to illegal settlers who volunteer to go home to their provinces,

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Osmeña: Informal settlers? dilemma | Sun.Star Network Online
Throughout history, people have flooded into cities to find jobs.

This rapidly growing number of migrants from the countryside to the city becomes a poverty trap, not an oasis of economic opportunity and cultural diversity. The urban poor are forced to live along riverbanks, unattended vacant lots and sidewalks, coastal shorelines and even on top of cemetery tombs.

In spite of joblessness and squalor, shantytown residents cling to life with resourcefulness, tenacity and hope. There is now a need for political will to stop the migration of illegal settlers to Metro Cebu.

[BIGMAN]

How does what BIGMAN says prove that people will flock to the city? Can you care to answer or are you saying that you can't disprove BIGMAN's posts. Asa naman to si BIGMAN.. wurag ganahan man ka motig debate niya.. sa iyaha nalang pamutana. I can't speak on his behalf. Do you understand maam?

Asa man ang statement nako nga maka afford tanan maam? Ayaw pataka og quote diha, kay usik lang na sa oras. Di ba maam? O basig ganahan lang ka mag usik oras. Dili raba ta unemployed tanan...

I am just here Mr. RMK711. Nawala lang kadali kay medyo busy sa work. Actually, I am having fun reading arguments between You and Masakiton. Lol, never mind her na lang. As what one istoryan says, " If you can't amaze people with your intelligence, confuse them with your stupidity. A he he he ha ha.

[jojo_mouth]

CCCI forms committee to review ecozone bid
By Ehda M. Dagooc (The Freeman) Updated September 10, 2010 12:00 AM Comments (0)

CEBU, Philippines – The Cebu Chamber of Commerce and Industry (CCCI) has created a "review committee" to look into the Cebu Economic Development Zone (CEDZ) proposal otherwise known as House Bill No. 1319.
This is to make the proposal attuned to the present administration's thrust, at the same time fitting to the economic movement and political changes that have taken place, said CCCI president Samuel Chioson.
Chioson said CCCI will not withdraw nor pursue at this time the CEDZ proposal, until such time that necessary changes will be made and for it to go through intense review.
He said the chamber is also considering the Department of Finance
(DOF) recent announcement to minimize approval of more economic zones in the country, to boost tax revenue collection.
"We are on status-quo about the proposal as of this time. The review committee will scrutinize the details of the bill, and will also examine what are needed to be changed or if there is something the chamber could add," said Chioson during the Cebu Business Month (CBM 2010) thanksgiving night held at the Radisson Hotel.
According to Chioson, the chamber has not set a timeline as to when the review committee will be able to submit their report. Part of the committee is past CCCI president and economist Efren Valiente.
Despite the prompting of at least two Cebuano Congressmen, like Cebu first district Representative Eduardo Gullas and Cebu fifth district Representative Ramon "Red" H. Durano VI, encouraging the chamber to pursue the proposal, CCCI is adopting a very cautious move, studying carefully the political "fabric" of the new set of leaders from the Congress level, up to the Senate.
While the chamber has not actively pushing to re-file the CEDZ proposal as of now, Gullas on the other hand, has went ahead and filed the similar Bill in the Congress the House Bill 91, declaring Cebu province as an economic zone.


"I filed the Bill on the first working day of the 15th Congress on July 1 [2010]. And I commend the help of the business sector in Cebu, the Cebu Chamber of Commerce and Industry and Cebu Business Club for their help in some amendments of the Bill," said Gullas.
Gullas said that he will enlist some Cebuano Congressmen who expressed interest to support the Bill, and may co-author with him in this bid.
Gullas hopes that CCCI will join with him and pursue their plan to re-file the Bill, despite criticisms from other parties.
Likewise, Durano expressed willingness to support the re-filing of the CEDZ in Congress this year, saying this bill can provide good economic future for Cebu province.
Like Gullas, Durano also believes that the Bill, if passed into law will be good for the Cebu province.
The CEDZ is envisioned to be a paradigm of an effective and functioning Public-Private Sector Partnership with the private sector taking the lead and government providing infrastructure and institutional support and contributing part of the needed resources.
The CEDZ could have been the Chamber's greatest achievement in history, as the concept was considered as the most pro-active proposal done by a private group so far in the Philippines.
If passed into Law, Cebu will be the first to be declared as province wide economic zone, and one of the few in the world.

Unsa naman sad ni oi?? Why create a new blah blah? This is all redundant! And to think it will be headed by some private businessmen with personal interest??

If anyone here does not know what is PEZA or Philippine Economic Zone Authority well this CEDZ is just a break away ideas of PEZA. Naa naman ta existing PEZA that administers economic zones, why would anybody likes to form another PEZA similar program and manage it himself? Dont you think its some kind of personal interest? There might be hidden agenda.

The best thing and the simplest thing to do here is to file for PEZA zone developer accreditation and hola! You are approved! Just like what the Aboitz land did on MEZ2 (Mactan Economic Zone 2) and CLIP (Cebu Light Industrial Park or known to some as MEZ3). They are now giving jobs to and revenues to the city of Lapu-lapu.

In Bataan, there was once a PEZA Zone there, operating with great benefits to the locals there. When the local government fight to claim it (similar to CEDZ), they succeeded. LGU took control, and somehow, err abuse it (?). It has bad effect on the companies that was there before it was converted. One by one those company left the converted zone and transfer to other PEZA location.

PEZA has been operating for more than 20 years, although evolving in new names but the same program tested and proven beneficial to all. PEZA has no corruption (kung naa man gani gamay ra).

There are also similar existing CEDZ such as BOI (Board of Investment), they also enjoy tax exemptions similar to Peza. But most BOI companies are now transfering to Peza zones because of the benifits PEZA formulates for the benifit of everybody.

[BIGMAN]

Unsa naman sad ni oi?? Why create a new blah blah? This is all redundant! And to think it will be headed by some private businessmen with personal interest??

If anyone here does not know what is PEZA or Philippine Economic Zone Authority well this CEDZ is just a break away ideas of PEZA. Naa naman ta existing PEZA that administers economic zones, why would anybody likes to form another PEZA similar program and manage it himself? Dont you think its some kind of personal interest? There might be hidden agenda.

The best thing and the simplest thing to do here is to file for PEZA zone developer accreditation and hola! You are approved! Just like what the Aboitz land did on MEZ2 (Mactan Economic Zone 2) and CLIP (Cebu Light Industrial Park or known to some as MEZ3). They are now giving jobs to and revenues to the city of Lapu-lapu.

In Bataan, there was once a PEZA Zone there, operating with great benefits to the locals there. When the local government fight to claim it (similar to CEDZ), they succeeded. LGU took control, and somehow, err abuse it (?). It has bad effect on the companies that was there before it was converted. One by one those company left the converted zone and transfer to other PEZA location.

PEZA has been operating for more than 20 years, although evolving in new names but the same program tested and proven beneficial to all. PEZA has no corruption (kung naa man gani gamay ra).

There are also similar existing CEDZ such as BOI (Board of Investment), they also enjoy tax exemptions similar to Peza. But most BOI companies are now transfering to Peza zones because of the benifits PEZA formulates for the benifit of everybody.

Mao bitaw na ang tuyo Bro. To declare the whole province as economic zone. It is the same thing as what you are talking here. CEDZ won't be led by businessmen only but this will be a synergy of leadership between government and private leaders. The bottom line here is to spread development in all areas of the province. And not only concentrating in key cities.

[jrconde]

nindut ni. mudako ang ang sweldo namo diri sa XXX kanang naa sa IT park.

[jojo_mouth]

Mao bitaw na ang tuyo Bro. To declare the whole province as economic zone. It is the same thing as what you are talking here. CEDZ won't be led by businessmen only but this will be a synergy of leadership between government and private leaders. The bottom line here is to spread development in all areas of the province. And not only concentrating in key cities.

Ang PEZA is nation wide, there are Peza Zones in Luzon Visayas and Mindanao. So maski asa pwede mag apply ug Peza Zone, pareha anang mga IT center such as IT park. Can you please enlighten me what do you mean by "To declare the whole province as economic zone".

As we all know Peza zones are tax exempted that why the Zones must be Area Specific mao na kinahanglan man gani unta na fully fenced. BOC on the other hand will not agree if muingon ka entire province himuun ecozone. As far I as know CEDZ is just a copy cat and wanted to govern it by its own. Thats why I said its redundant coz naa naman ta PEZA.

[BIGMAN]

Ang PEZA is nation wide, there are Peza Zones in Luzon Visayas and Mindanao. So maski asa pwede mag apply ug Peza Zone, pareha anang mga IT center such as IT park. Can you please enlighten me what do you mean by "To declare the whole province as economic zone".

As we all know Peza zones are tax exempted that why the Zones must be Area Specific mao na kinahanglan man gani unta na fully fenced. BOC on the other hand will not agree if muingon ka entire province himuun ecozone. As far I as know CEDZ is just a copy cat and wanted to govern it by its own. Thats why I said its redundant coz naa naman ta PEZA.

Instead of applying for specific areas. They will apply for the whole province as economic zone. That is the purpose of the bill. Once approved, the whole Cebu province, all its cities and municipalities will become an economic zone. Again, CEDZ will be a synergy of leadership between the government and private sectors. Just like Hongkong bah, its a part of China. But the Chinese government has no touch in Hongkong's development. Hongkong is not a country as what others thought. It is a special administrative region. That is the purpose of the CEDZ bill.

[INFRACTION]

layo pa nis tinuod.... for sure mo palag ang local government regarding tax!