I AM God and Everything is God?

[skoilhp]

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I can, but you need to lay them down here. read the bible like how you read any other book. There is no mystical(occult) interpretation.

Well, i understand what you know.

are you afraid to say what group you belong to? come on, are you a member of OHGRC?

as i have said, it doesn't matter what mystical school i am now and i am not afraid of anything. in a mystical you will learn not to be afraid of anything. instead, you will learn to love humanity and God's creation, to be compassion, kind, charitable, you will be very peaceful and blissful and most of all to be tolerant all the time.

I have further discovered, thanks to google...that your group teaches Rosicrucian-ism, the problem is, the documents cannot establish any link to modern Rosicrucians.

no, I have never spent money to pay my church for any secret teachings. unlike your group...php for secret teachings.

google and the internet are not reliable source even for us mystical students how much more with non students. lessons will be received. as you study further more lessons will be received. just like in academic schools, you need to pay those lessons, unless you are a scholar.

you will be spending money also if you want to learn to play any musical instrument, learn martial arts, have dance lessons or anything you want to learn. i don't mind paying any amount if the lessons really interest me and that i'm enjoying it very much.

why don't you tell me since you think you know a lot about Christ, wait its a secret right? do i have to pay you first?

ah hahaha. secret... there is no secret at all. a college lesson is never a secret to primary students

what i am asking you is what you know about Christ personally. i think it's no secret at all.

[McVos]

Well, i understand what you know.

nice!

as i have said, it doesn't matter what mystical school i am now and i am not afraid of anything. in a mystical you will learn not to be afraid of anything. instead, you will learn to love humanity and God's creation, to be compassion, kind, charitable, you will be very peaceful and blissful and most of all to be tolerant all the time.

oh yes it does matter, basin fly by night na imong school. I don't think so...I have friends who goes to church in diplomat hotel. they saw you guys wearing aprons. they even heard some of your members murmuring about DONATIONS...dili daw ihatag ang lessons kong dili mohatag og offering or tithes ba to? then naa pod daw mo seminars that's worth 3k pesos...wow nya ang mga books ninyo are xerox copy nga gi book bind ra and its worth 1k plus daw then 1k plus for the seminar. a xerox copy book binded nga libro is worth 1k? isnt it a violation pod sa copy rights?

mao ni ang gi teach in your mystical school? contradiction kaayo sa imong gi sulti nga you are taught to be charitable and blah blah...tolerant? nya masoko kong di mohatag og donation?

google and the internet are not reliable source even for us mystical students how much more with non students. lessons will be received. as you study further more lessons will be received. just like in academic schools, you need to pay those lessons, unless you are a scholar.

you will be spending money also if you want to learn to play any musical instrument, learn martial arts, have dance lessons or anything you want to learn. i don't mind paying any amount if the lessons really interest me and that i'm enjoying it very much.

why not give it for free if you are really sincere in your mission to liberate the human soul out from bondage? change the system, instead of lessons given in books try the church system or classroom setting where students would group together and the teacher or preacher is standing and giving lessons.

ah hahaha. secret... there is no secret at all. a college lesson is never a secret to primary students

what i am asking you is what you know about Christ personally. i think it's no secret at all.

kaw ra man an gasotli nga secret.

[McVos]

anyways bai, im pulling the plug. I have more important things to do.

[skoilhp]

nice!

oh yes it does matter, basin fly by night na imong school. I don't think so...I have friends who goes to church in diplomat hotel. they saw you guys wearing aprons. they even heard some of your members murmuring about DONATIONS...dili daw ihatag ang lessons kong dili mohatag og offering or tithes ba to? then naa pod daw mo seminars that's worth 3k pesos...wow nya ang mga books ninyo are xerox copy nga gi book bind ra and its worth 1k plus daw then 1k plus for the seminar. a xerox copy book binded nga libro is worth 1k? isnt it a violation pod sa copy rights?

mao ni ang gi teach in your mystical school? contradiction kaayo sa imong gi sulti nga you are taught to be charitable and blah blah...tolerant? nya masoko kong di mohatag og donation?

why not give it for free if you are really sincere in your mission to liberate the human soul out from bondage? change the system, instead of lessons given in books try the church system or classroom setting where students would group together and the teacher or preacher is standing and giving lessons.

kaw ra man an gasotli nga secret.

wa man cguro masuko if di muhatag donation in fact you can give your donation to others and not necessarily to the school. giving is one of the lessons sa mystical schools in order to alleviate suffering and poverty. you can check churches that practice tithing, ma arangan gyud ang ilang panginabuhi. i think they are just emphasizing the law of giving so that their students become prosperous. the school has so many patrons already who became very successful in their business and always giving big donations. you will have to be a sincere student to know anything about how they run their school. if you are non student, of course you will not understand anything at all. i am a sincere student and i fully understand about their operations.

try receiving money for free, you will just spend it easily. but if it is a fruit of your hardwork, you will save some, spend the rest wisely. i will give you a free dance lesson, do you think you will study with me if you don't like dancing? but if you really are interested to dance and want to learn many styles, you will find a dance school and pay whatever the fee and of course you will learn successfully because you spent your hard earned money for it.

there will a free seminar about proper care of dogs, if you are not a dog lover, of course it's a waste of your time and you will not attend. but if you are dog lover and there is seminar nga tag 10,000 ky famous breeders ang speakers, you will attend, dba?

there is a free concert ni Lady Gaga pero d ka ganahan sa iyang music, d ka magkapoy kapoy ug tan-aw, dba? pero kung ganahan kaayo ka ni Max Surban, bisan pa ug tag 1,000 pa ang ticket, mutan-aw gyud, magkapagaw pa ka ug syagit syagit.

i forgot, i think what i'm referring to is about the book, The Secret Teachings of All Ages... well, if there are secret teachings in it, d na cguro mahimong secret if you read them and fully understand them, if wa ka kasabot maski kapila ka basa, well, it will still be a SECRET TO YOU

[McVos]

wa man cguro masuko if di muhatag donation in fact you can give your donation to others and not necessarily to the school. giving is one of the lessons sa mystical schools in order to alleviate suffering and poverty. you can check churches that practice tithing, ma arangan gyud ang ilang panginabuhi. i think they are just emphasizing the law of giving so that their students become prosperous. the school has so many patrons already who became very successful in their business and always giving big donations. you will have to be a sincere student to know anything about how they run their school. if you are non student, of course you will not understand anything at all. i am a sincere student and i fully understand about their operations.

I don't think so bai. according to my source he heard people from your group "reklamo" about the threat of your leader/s of withdrawing their lessons if they refuse to pledge extra donation/tithe. He heard one of them said "nagbayad na gud ta og 100+". Then the same group was also heard saying "grabe pod ang seminar tag 3k man" one guy responded "bayad daw na shapati?(something like that) og libro" then another guy said "mahal ra ang libro tag 1k plus xerox copy ra man onta nga gina book bind ra". then the funniest thing he heard was your monks daw drinks alcoholic beverages a lot.

actually this friend of mine attended one of your seminar gina spy sigoro mo nila, and they used to fellowship at one of the function room in diplomat hotel,hehehe. I dunno if nagparegister sila or not. but according to him mga snobbish daw mo feeling elite. you don't know how to entertain visitors. Man this information is so opposite with the character you painted for us to believe about your mystical school.

bai grabe na pod xerox copy nga book nga gina bookbind is worth 1k plus? its like buying a double dead meat. did you even ask permission from the publisher? monks who drink a lot of alcoholic drinks?

try receiving money for free, you will just spend it easily. but if it is a fruit of your hardwork, you will save some, spend the rest wisely. i will give you a free dance lesson, do you think you will study with me if you don't like dancing? but if you really are interested to dance and want to learn many styles, you will find a dance school and pay whatever the fee and of course you will learn successfully because you spent your hard earned money for it.

is this about the seminar? bai, we are talking about helping a soul here. I bet not all of your members can afford it or mangutang na lang gani. its wrong. there is a thread here offering people to a free Buddhist retreat camp for 3-4 months, all expense paid by them. mao nay sincere nga tabang bai. In our Chruch we ask for sponsors and kong di kaya nila we give them immunity, that's for retreat. Most of our seminars are free and we don't give xerox copy books for 1k plus.

there will a free seminar about proper care of dogs, if you are not a dog lover, of course it's a waste of your time and you will not attend. but if you are dog lover and there is seminar nga tag 10,000 ky famous breeders ang speakers, you will attend, dba?

there is a free concert ni Lady Gaga pero d ka ganahan sa iyang music, d ka magkapoy kapoy ug tan-aw, dba? pero kung ganahan kaayo ka ni Max Surban, bisan pa ug tag 1,000 pa ang ticket, mutan-aw gyud, magkapagaw pa ka ug syagit syagit.

i forgot, i think what i'm referring to is about the book, The Secret Teachings of All Ages... well, if there are secret teachings in it, d na cguro mahimong secret if you read them and fully understand them, if wa ka kasabot maski kapila ka basa, well, it will still be a SECRET TO YOU

this is different bai, dili mani bisyo. Are you really helping people?

well i have no knowledge about the book.

[analog man]

if wa ka kasabot maski kapila ka basa, well, it will still be a SECRET TO YOU

hahahaha. sakto jud. labi na ug wala jud mobasa.

[skoilhp]

I don't think so bai. according to my source he heard people from your group "reklamo" about the threat of your leader/s of withdrawing their lessons if they refuse to pledge extra donation/tithe. He heard one of them said "nagbayad na gud ta og 100+". Then the same group was also heard saying "grabe pod ang seminar tag 3k man" one guy responded "bayad daw na shapati?(something like that) og libro" then another guy said "mahal ra ang libro tag 1k plus xerox copy ra man onta nga gina book bind ra". then the funniest thing he heard was your monks daw drinks alcoholic beverages a lot.

actually this friend of mine attended one of your seminar gina spy sigoro mo nila, and they used to fellowship at one of the function room in diplomat hotel,hehehe. I dunno if nagparegister sila or not. but according to him mga snobbish daw mo feeling elite. you don't know how to entertain visitors. Man this information is so opposite with the character you painted for us to believe about your mystical school.

bai grabe na pod xerox copy nga book nga gina bookbind is worth 1k plus? its like buying a double dead meat. did you even ask permission from the publisher? monks who drink a lot of alcoholic drinks?



is this about the seminar? bai, we are talking about helping a soul here. I bet not all of your members can afford it or mangutang na lang gani. its wrong. there is a thread here offering people to a free Buddhist retreat camp for 3-4 months, all expense paid by them. mao nay sincere nga tabang bai. In our Chruch we ask for sponsors and kong di kaya nila we give them immunity, that's for retreat. Most of our seminars are free and we don't give xerox copy books for 1k plus.



this is different bai, dili mani bisyo. Are you really helping people?

well i have no knowledge about the book.

i will give you my personal opinion about this. i am just a student of this mystical school and i have no right to say anything on their part. i am not their representative either. me personally, i don't mind giving donations to this school, i have learned so many priceless lessons. Bisag pila pa ako i donate, wa nay problema nako ky na enjoy man ko ug maayo learning from this school. and what i have learned so far, is all about me, my true nature and my relationship to God. isn't amazing for me, that i have discovered my true nature that i am not this physical body but it is the one inside me. wa man sab ko pugsa nga mo attend gyud ko sa seminar. if i am not interested sa seminar then di ko maattend. if interested kaayo ko unya wa ko budget, it's either sayangan ko, utang could be an option but not advisable, or prepare na lng ko for the next seminar. and if ni attend ko, for sure, ako gyud na pratison ky mahal baya ko ug bayad plus ako gyud na basahon ang book ky mahal baya. i will give the book to you for free, do you think you will read it?

for example ikaw ganahan kaayo ka ug hairstyling unya naa mag seminar nga tag 3,000. on my part nga d hilig ana, makaingon ko ka grabe, tag 3,000 mn pud seminar, kinsa mn ang speaker ana ba nga kamahal mn? plus naa manual or book nga gi photocopy lng mahal pa gyud kaayo tag 1,000 plus. pero kung ikaw, hilig ka ug hairstyling and u know the speaker well, bisag tag 10,000 pa na ang seminar plus ang books or manual tag 5,000 bisag xerox nga hanap kaayo willing gyud ka mobayad ana d ba?

one of the lessons in our mystical school is to enjoy life while we are here learning the great lessons of life and trying to attain perfection so that we can unite with God. in heaven there is no beer, so let's enjoy and drink it here. there is nothing funny about them drinking beer, we are not one them so we really don't know why they are doing that and why it is allowed to them, but for me, i guess, it will go back to one of the lessons that we should enjoy life here on earth.

humility is also one of the lessons in our mystical school. if some students are feeling elite, then they have not learned that lesson well. Maybe your friend or YOU have misinterpreted it. well, criticism is everywhere and you cannot avoid it, it's natural here on earth. depende ra man na sa tawo kung unsa iya gi apas sa school. i am after for the lessons and techniques, and not nga tagdon ko ug maayo. but if ang student gi apas ky ingon ana then the school is not for them. they can always leave anytime if naa sila dili ganahan sa school. daghan students nga ni stop na, pero katong nakasabot ug maayo sa school meaning with practice ha, naa pa man gihapon. ako lng daan. hehehe. daghan pa ang ni benefit sa ilang lessons nga nadawat ug gina practice. me personally, bisag unsaon pa ko sa ubang tao, maski ako pang kapamilya, d na mudot nako, ky i know everything na what is life all about which i learn from this mystical school.

well, ilaha pud na. but as you know, lain lain bya ang pamaagi. well for me, the school is just there to teach students and that is the help that they can do. of course, it is up to the student kung iya gi follow ug gi practice ang lessons. if wala practis practis ang student, aw for sure, d gyud makatabang ang school nya. same ra gud sa mga academic schools, dli ang school ang magpapasar ug magpagraduate sa studyante, kinsa mn school mn ingon ana bi? nakatabang kaha na sila sa studyante? ang studyante kinahangln mo work para sa makapasar ug maka graduate.

i have already given you an example in my previous post. tagaan ta ka ug lain nga example. if tambok kaayo ka unya gusto ka nga mupayat, naay free seminar ug naa sab seminar nga naay bayad. which do you think imong followhon? bai, kung ang mga lesson, free lng, d man gani basahon sa uban nga student nga naa bayad, how much more kung free lng. but if hunahuna nimo, nagbayad mn ko ani, dapat ako gyud ni basahon, dapat ako gyud ni pratison.

[skoilhp]

Here is another illustration Jesus used: "The Kingdom of Heaven is like a mustard seed planted in a field. It is the smallest of all seeds, but it becomes the largest of garden plants and grows into a tree where birds can come and find shelter in its branches."
~Matthew 13:31-32

[analog man]

humility is also one of the lessons in our mystical school.

one of Jesus' teachings. humility

[LOLzZz]

if wa ka kasabot maski kapila ka basa, well, it will still be a SECRET TO YOU

korek kong wa ka kasabot bisan walay secret maghimo himo ka og secret.