MERGED: Quirino Grandstand Hostage Crisis

[RMK711]

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Mao lage na ang punto ... legal or illegal , still it equates as an ISSUE maski unsaon pagbali bali . SO what does that make to the people of HONGKONG now ? That they are stupid and ignorant also ?

Well only the experts ra man kaha ang maka detect , unless we have experts here in the forums then I would feel comfortable na sa doubts . DIli lage ambush but taga pic na lang pod apil jud ang photographer ? Hehehe ... cmon , just trying to establish something here na naay pattern . I am nnot saying na fake to ang pics but it is soemthign to pinder on . You know how the cyberworld works and plays . Mailisan man gani ang lawas nimo ug lawas sa shemale and it would really looked like you for real . The joys of photoshopped , hopefully naay experts na mo clarify jud ani since ang pics naka pa add ug insult sa injury .

It is not wide open by the way kay isa ka angle and side ra man ang background nila pirme which is the right hand side of the bus .

Ang akong punto diri ... it is also wrong for some CHINESE to maltreat our OFW maski relative pa nila ang isa sa mga victims or just plainly talk about something negative about FIlipinos . If there criticisms are directed to PNP and the GOVT , its ok since sila man ang subject for scrutiny . I cant blame them though but still it is wrong .

Angay i condemn ang nag circulate sa pictures who captured the photos na gi apil hasta ang photographer sa mga magbawg utok pod .

Of course naa jud ang photographer taga pic.. dili na conspiracy, wurag natural ra na kung naa ka sa lugar inya wa ka uyon sa imong nakita.. ang ang dili apilon ang photographer nga apil man siya sa binuang, di ba? Wa pa gihapoy ebidensya nga peke ni, kung peke sigurado nga gi-expose na sa atoang media nga abtik kaayo.

I don't think HK people are stupid or ignorant just because a few maids got fired. I don't agree that one isolated instance is an issue already, numbers matter too. I agree that it's wrong for even the few people there to discriminate, but in a city with millions of people and hundreds of thousands of maids, what do you expect? There are racists in this country too, and I know this being half-Chinese myself but I don't consider it an issue because 1- bound to be a few bad eggs in a country with 90 million people 2- they don't represent most pinoys and 3- can't do anything about it anyway.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

Of course naa jud ang photographer taga pic.. dili na conspiracy, wurag natural ra na kung naa ka sa lugar inya wa ka uyon sa imong nakita.. ang ang dili apilon ang photographer nga apil man siya sa binuang, di ba? Wa pa gihapoy ebidensya nga peke ni, kung peke sigurado nga gi-expose na sa atoang media nga abtik kaayo.

Nobody said it is a consipracy but just alarming because it is circulating in the net adding insult to the injury by no other than a Filipino himself . Apilon ang photographer ? Of course that would be expected as a reason na apil siya sa kabuang .... I am just hoping na naay mo conduct ug study ani because just because walay ni come out sa open doesnt mean na concluded na siya .

I am not doing a campaign on these matter but I just raised it up since I knew someone personally ga himo ug photoshopped na pic but wala ang ang photographer obviously . I corrected him and he did remove it also from his FB account .

I don't think HK people are stupid or ignorant just because a few maids got fired. I don't agree that one isolated instance is an issue already, numbers matter too. I agree that it's wrong for even the few people there to discriminate, but in a city with millions of people and hundreds of thousands of maids, what do you expect? There are racists in this country too, and I know this being half-Chinese myself but I don't consider it an issue because of 1) inevitability of a few bad eggs in a country with 90 million people 2) they don't represent most pinoys and 3) can't do anything about it anyway. These 3 things apply to the helper situation there too.

Thats why i said SOME , I never said all of them . By the way di ni siya ISOLATED , someone even made a thread about it sa aftermath sa tragdey causing employers hurting and firing their househelp na mga FIlipinas . You dont have to be CHinese either , we all know there is DISCRIMINATION all over the world , but what happened in the issues of terminating PINAYS are not DISCRIMINATION at all but HATRED .

It is an issue because prior to the tragedy , why is that there are no news at all of PINAYS being terminated for no reason at all ? Being terminated and fired in a city of millions is not new but what is STUPID and IGNORANT is when these employers start to fire and hurt them because 8 HK tourist died like its the fault of the maids why they died . Still not an issue ?

[Romeojin]

basin diay mga chinese journalist nag pic sa ila, knowing its inappropriate.

[RMK711]

Nobody said it is a consipracy but just alarming because it is circulating in the net adding insult to the injury by no other than a Filipino himself . Apilon ang photographer ? Of course that would be expected as a reason na apil siya sa kabuang .... I am just hoping na naay mo conduct ug study ani because just because walay ni come out sa open doesnt mean na concluded na siya .

I am not doing a campaign on these matter but I just raised it up since I knew someone personally ga himo ug photoshopped na pic but wala ang ang photographer obviously . I corrected him and he did remove it also from his FB account .



Thats why i said SOME , I never said all of them . By the way di ni siya ISOLATED , someone even made a thread about it sa aftermath sa tragdey causing employers hurting and firing their househelp na mga FIlipinas . You dont have to be CHinese either , we all know there is DISCRIMINATION all over the world , but what happened in the issues of terminating PINAYS are not DISCRIMINATION at all but HATRED .

It is an issue because prior to the tragedy , why is that there are no news at all of PINAYS being terminated for no reason at all ? Being terminated and fired in a city of millions is not new but what is STUPID and IGNORANT is when these employers start to fire and hurt them because 8 HK tourist died like its the fault of the maids why they died . Still not an issue ?

Those people in the pics can easily be identified kai klaro man kaayu ilahang mga nawong, so sayun ra unta ni imbestigahon, inya angay sad jud arun mapakita sa atong gobyerno kung unsay tinuod, peke man o dili.

It is stupid and ignorant, pero daghan jud stupid and ignorant diri sa kalibutan.. it's an issue but it's a separate issue, dili ni siya issue nga nigawas lang tungod aning bus incident og mga picture. Huna-hunaa sad nga kanang mga HK nga nang-fire og maid tungod ani do you think dili na na sila racist sa katung una pa? Gigamit lang nila ang issue para makapagawas sila sa ilahang pagka-racist pero racist na sila daan. In other words, issue na ang racism even before this incident pero its an issue in itself which I don't think can be solved overnight kai dili ta ka control sa tanang tao. It's a separate issue that I agree kinahanglan i adress, pero back sa original post nga imong gihimo regarding ani- that our government should do something about it, what can they do? They can't change their laws or the ways of these few people, and if there's a solution to eradicate all racism, I'm all for it but is that realistic? Provide nalang sila consular assistance sa maid arun makabalik diri o makapangita og laing trabaho, I'm sure daghan pa lain mo-hire nila nga decente nga tao, ngano ganahan man intaon sila motrabaho sa amo nga buangon?

[peewee_toot]

basin diay mga chinese journalist nag pic sa ila, knowing its inappropriate.

murag ing ana jd. or basin mga pinoy ra pd unya gibaligya didto sa HK...

[cobraKing]

basin pirated ang picture..

[cebulifer]

^^^ +1!!! daghan gyud hulidappers sa manila! maayo na lang wala pa kaayo diri sa cebu!!! Whew!

[peewee_toot]

^^unya ma proud kaha ta ana sir? faet! luoy jd ang pinoy ky mdamay mn jd...

[edgeknife]

first of foremost, ang atong presidente nga si noynoy wala mosunod sa protocol on hostage taking... dapat unta siya motawag sa chief executve of hongkong govt nga ang ilang tawo gi hostage ngari sa manila... unsaon man wala man siya motawag... instead ang chief executive naman ang nitawag sa presidente, worse dili pajud tubagon... i dont believe on his saying nga wala cya kadawat sa tawag coz i believe that our president does not what to do... mao jud ni problema sa system sa atong gobyerno ngari sa pinas... bisan manawag ta og LTO, DFA, and other agencies, dili pod manubag sa telepono...

again, smiling during the ocular inspection of the hong thai bus and during the presscon were again the worst thing to do for noynoy...

well, noynoy, for me, is partly to be blamed for that as nagpabaya siya as president of out nation...

nauwaw ko as a pinoy citizen... even those ignorant students and some of the policemen nagpapicture sa bus wala sila mauwaw adto... isa ko sa na ulaw...

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

Those people in the pics can easily be identified kai klaro man kaayu ilahang mga nawong, so sayun ra unta ni imbestigahon, inya angay sad jud arun mapakita sa atong gobyerno kung unsay tinuod, peke man o dili.

Kalami jud duklon aning mga tawhana gyud . Well damage is done , maksi mo apologize pa na sila pod , ni circulate na ang pics .

It is stupid and ignorant, pero daghan jud stupid and ignorant diri sa kalibutan.. it's an issue but it's a separate issue, dili ni siya issue nga nigawas lang tungod aning bus incident og mga picture. Huna-hunaa sad nga kanang mga HK nga nang-fire og maid tungod ani do you think dili na na sila racist sa katung una pa? Gigamit lang nila ang issue para makapagawas sila sa ilahang pagka-racist pero racist na sila daan. In other words, issue na ang racism even before this incident pero its an issue in itself which I don't think can be solved overnight kai dili ta ka control sa tanang tao. It's a separate issue that I agree kinahanglan i adress, pero back sa original post nga imong gihimo regarding ani- that our government should do something about it, what can they do? They can't change their laws or the ways of these few people, and if there's a solution to eradicate all racism, I'm all for it but is that realistic? Provide nalang sila consular assistance sa maid arun makabalik diri o makapangita og laing trabaho, I'm sure daghan pa lain mo-hire nila nga decente nga tao, ngano ganahan man intaon sila motrabaho sa amo nga buangon?

It is indeed hard to implement but doable . Dapat ang mga agency and POEA mo comensate sa aning mga scenarios as long as it is in the books ang process . Kung ang isa ka OFW ni suffer ani but illegally entered HK or anywhere else for that matter is a different story . Remember na maski katabang ra ni sila , they helped in the nations revenues thru their remittances .

If we remember a lot of controversies and incidents involving foreigners , we really didnt care about their kababayans . Like sa mga kabuang sa Muslim radicals , we didnt generalized the whole Muslim population or say mga Bumbay na nanglugos ug katabang sa Carcar , we still embraced and welcomed Indians . Same scenario ba ... otherwise this is another thing we can call only in the Philippines .