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    Quote Originally Posted by Sempron Guy View Post
    LOL, based on what? A 5 year old experiment? And on a 100 point lead score on 3dmark04( just realized wala man gani 3dmark04 )? And HIS btw makes ATI cards only.
    i stand corrected, its 3dmark03 and its leadtek 6600gt not HIS. leadtek had the same supplier with MSI (net essentials). there was a guy who is a representative of net essentials was so confident with MSI that he dared to challenge us with his msi. good thing only his product beat also his own. pero pidle cya sa pusta. btw, the price difference is almost 3k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by P0w3rM0v3 View Post
    This doesn't prove anything... for one thing the gpus in all video cards come from ATI or Nvidia. These companies merely add their own touches like the cooling system, outputs, and designs... Also there are many factors that can affect the outcome of the difference in performance. Even if the 3 pcs u used had the same hardware, they do NOT translate to the same performance figures. This is manly because all components had different imperfections in materials. Metals used in the manufacturing process are NOT all identical. This can be proven with processors. Why do you thing hardware editors keep saying that not all OC are identical? Even if you have two i7 920s, they will NOT OC to the same frequencies or voltages. And even if they do overclock to the same frequencies, i guarantee you the wont have exact numbers on benchmarks as well.
    Another point i want to make is that 100pts in vantage is NOTHING... Take a resistor for example, see the last bands? The last band is usually what's called a 'tolerance level'. If this said resistor is rated at 1k ohms, i guarantee you this will not be exactly 1000ohms in an ohm meter. Again, this is due to imperfections of the metal in the manufacturing process. The point is, the number will be close and is 'ACCEPTABLE'...
    also, there are materials that have lower tolerance levels. These are labeled as 'military class' components. If your standard resistor costs u, i dunno, 5 pesos; a military class component will cost you more than 10x as much...
    but at price difference of almost 3k? there should have been a significant difference.

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    whatever that is that's pretty old to be made as basis don't you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by erwin_rommel View Post
    but at price difference of almost 3k? there should have been a significant difference.
    this can also be because of different factors. Maybe MSI had a better cooling solution? Maybe the MSI had better power efficiency? Maybe the MSI had more overclocking potential? It could also be because MSI is more well known brand than the others? I dunno... This doesn't mean the MSI suks though is what i'm saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by erwin_rommel View Post
    but at price difference of almost 3k? there should have been a significant difference.
    It's pretty much different now, If you lost track of time. Seriously why come up with something quite irrelevant nowadays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sempron Guy View Post
    It's pretty much different now, If you lost track of time. Seriously why come up with something quite irrelevant nowadays.
    maybe things are different now and i hope they are creating products that is worth the price not just overpriced good looking product. im done with gaming and and now focus on low to mid end rigs for my use.
    Last edited by erwin_rommel; 08-28-2010 at 11:39 AM.

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    Very well said powermove. Moreover, every component inside your PC is a heat generator. That's why airflow inside your case matters most and contributes to the useful life of these parts. Therefore, useful life is decreased if you dont have a good airflow.

    In the case of capacitors, the solid looking capacitors on your Video Cards is as the same performance with the none solid looking ones we can find here.

    Solid looking capacitors are still electrolytic capacitors. The advantage of the solid looking Caps for me is that It doesn't leak ( wa pa ko kakita ug solid caps nga ni leak ) slowly evaporated? It might be , and when the useful life is exhausted, it will just pop. If we are going to replace your VC caps with non solid caps, you dont have to worry when they leak because VCs are attached to your mobo upside down (mostly) not unless you have your mobo laying flat.

    I don't completely agree with what is written here: PiranhaPC - Pure Performance - All Solid Capacitors - for motherboards yes but for video cards, no.

    I rely what is written on the tech specifications on the manufacturer like: Conductive Polymer Aluminum Solid Electrolytic Capacitors

    Leaking none solid electrolytic are seldom on Video Cards than on Motherboards. Capacitors that leaks on motherboard are usually the large ones.

    But I doubt that these solid caps in our PCs that are solid looking are organic caps thats why they dont leak - http://www.edc.sanyo.com/english/pdf/oscon/E56.pdf
    Last edited by COMCAM; 08-28-2010 at 11:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by COMCAM View Post
    Very well said powermove. Moreover, every component inside your PC is a heat generator. That's why airflow inside your case matters most and contributes to the useful life of these parts. Therefore, useful life is decreased if you dont have a good airflow.

    In the case of capacitors, the solid looking capacitors on your Video Cards is as the same performance with the none solid looking ones we can find here.

    Solid looking capacitors are still electrolytic capacitors. The advantage of the solid looking Caps for me is that It doesn't leak ( wa pa ko kakita ug solid caps nga ni leak ) slowly evaporated? It might be , and when the useful life is exhausted, it will just pop. If we are going to replace your VC caps with non solid caps, you dont have to worry when they leak because VCs are attached to your mobo upside down (mostly) not unless you have your mobo laying flat.

    I don't completely agree with what is written here: PiranhaPC - Pure Performance - All Solid Capacitors - for motherboards yes but for video cards, no.

    I rely what is written on the tech specifications on the manufacturer like: Conductive Polymer Aluminum Solid Electrolytic Capacitors

    Leaking none solid electrolytic are seldom on Video Cards than on Motherboards. Capacitors that leaks on motherboard are usually the large ones.
    ive seen leaking solid caps of geforce 7300gt. there was one internet cafe i was maintaning were all of its gefoce 7300gt videocards were replaced because its capacitors were leaking. but it was the owner's fault because she turned off the aircon because she wanted to save electricity bills.

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    mao jd. whats the diff?

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    Quote Originally Posted by juck401 View Post
    mao jd. whats the diff?
    technical support, I guess?

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