MERGED: Quirino Grandstand Hostage Crisis

[Sand Man]

.if noynoy do really care..and if he will do an obama just like sa imo example..he could give the SAF or the LRC, the green light..those CT teams well equip and well trained.they are the best..we do have night vision goggles they could have shut down the light when the assault team are ready naa unta room for selected target.

Ermmm... the military can't operate on our soil unless it's an insurgency or a coup, right? Someone please correct me if I am wrong on this.

Best bet would have been PNP-SAF.

Mao na gani ng best nato, kay wala ika buga.. MAO ra na KAYA sa ato SWAT kay poorly trained gani atong SWAT.. unsa man buhaton ni gloria bro? sya mu assault sa bus? if gloria trained and equipped our SWAT Teams for sure properly executed ang operation, dili ma overhaul ni Pnoy ang tanang SWAT units sa pinas overnight, si gloria 9 years nag lingkod.

Bai unta ni apil nalang ka sa nag assault, kay mura mas maau paman ka sa SWAT nato. For sure kung ikaw sa front line tan awun nato if mabuhat na nimu imung gipanulti. Mao ning lisud sa atong mga pinoy, daghan maayo mo istorya, mao na atong nasud kutob rapud sa istorya.

Sakto ba na one SWAT unit's capabilities will be representative of all the SWAT units in the country? Anyone here naay amigo na Cebu or Mandaue SWAT? What do they have to say?

Bai MPD ang may jurisdiction sa hostage taking, di ka pwede mu pull out lang ug another SWAT Team sa other city. Before ka mu suggest bai, basa pud sa standard operation procedure sa mga pulis, naa pud tawn na sila gina sunod na system, mu sud ra laing SWAT unit if di na kaya sa MPD.

Ang better team na imu gi pangita bro, naa sa america, germany, france and britain. If nahan ka mu change ang outcome sa assault, mag Import ta ug SWAT, para kung mo order si Pnoy "GO" for sure less casualty and you will be satisfied.

... and I was wondering. We're the guys who assaulted the bus really SWAT? Can we get a confirmation on this anywhere? Nakabasa man gud ko na mga NBI ra daw to, though I would have second thought kay nag uniform man gud. Some newspapers are even calling them "commandos"!

[darsmith13]

di pud na masure bro..kay daghan pud pa-hero effect ghapon atong panahuna..

mao ni ron..

too many chefs in the kitchen ruins the food..

main dish : SAF

served : mix nuts

EPIC FAIL.

mao ni pnaka sakto nga tubag akong nabasahan karon adlawa..

[hulagway]

Ermmm... the military can't operate on our soil unless it's an insurgency or a coup, right? Someone please correct me if I am wrong on this.

Best bet would have been PNP-SAF.

if the need arise noynoy could do the best thing for the situation..if LRC is available the let them barrow swat uniform...few peolple would notice it anyway...pro ang best option unta ato nila is the SAF..well trained ang well equipt,,

Sakto ba na one SWAT unit's capabilities will be representative of all the SWAT units in the country? Anyone here naay amigo na Cebu or Mandaue SWAT? What do they have to say?

dili

.. and I was wondering. We're the guys who assaulted the bus really SWAT? Can we get a confirmation on this anywhere? Nakabasa man gud ko na mga NBI ra daw to, though I would have second thought kay nag uniform man gud. Some newspapers are even calling them "commandos"!

from the looks mura man ug dili to swat kay hadlokan man kaayo,,klaro kaayo nga nahadlok kay hasta pag itsa sa glow stick wala pa ma perfect pati pud ang ila posture dili mao..rattle sila even sa pag move nila..paita

[melvenb]

On the bright side, after sa hotage taking incident, nitaas ang dollar.. Higher rate means higher ang value sa padala.. Malipay ang mga susama namong mga OFW.. hehehe

[Romeojin]

if maguindanao massacre na blame kay GMA, its fitting man pud ma blame si Penoy aning hostage crisis, hes the highest official in the land and things can be negotiated/done. even an audience with CE Tsang wa nahitabo maybe mapugos siya to work if they had talked. but what can we expect from the aquino? .. 2 massacres caught in tape na involving them, walay resolve

sa Quirino Grandstand pa gyud. the same place penoy inaugurated. i think Mendoza plan that and plus he hostage foreign tourists.. he didnt settle for national crisis but an international one.

personally since mendoza was clamoring for his benefits.. madala ra siya ma bribe ng kwarta.

[hulagway]

di pud na masure bro..kay daghan pud pa-hero effect ghapon atong panahuna..

mao ni ron..

too many chefs in the kitchen ruins the food..

main dish : SAF

served : mix nuts

EPIC FAIL.

ok pro ako gikuhaan ug basi ang iya gibuhat sa the PEN ug aokwood..it was resolved without casualty..they have done all the best possible solution which resulted to peaceful ending

ok raman ng daghan ug chief basta kibaw sila unsa ang ila rule...team work kung baga....pnoy paita ani imo pa jud gi damay ang russia sa imo press con....probida utoka ondo

[KhogMoh]

PNoy could've mattered.

It involved foreign nationals. Hong Kong officials called on him. He chickened out. The whole world was watching. I believe Mr. Mendoza would've listened if PNoy showed any semblance of concern.

Sayang akong boto nimo PNoy! NaWangwang na ang reputation sa Pilipinas.

[romantic_guy08]

Actually as the president, he could have done a lot of things. Yes, I agree na he can't control how Mendoza would react or what he would do. But he can control the environment by which the incident is happening.

He could have declared a media blackout, let's face it, and its been generally discussed and talked about that what triggered Mendoza to start shooting the hostages was when he saw his relatives being arrested. This could have been prevented if the media were not allowed to show this live. We could have had a different ending to this entire situation. Mendoza, as Noy said was not bellingerent and was cooperating. Another implication of this no news blackout is that as Mendoza was monitoring inside the bus what was happening, he knows what to expect. I found the excuse given by this administration to be pretty lame. Not declaring media blackout coz they might be accused of censorship? This administration is worrying too much of their image. I believe that the safety of those hostages shouldve have been the utmost concern regardless who will cry foul. If the media didn't follow, then arrest them just like what happened in Oakwood.

Next, and this is more important I believe is that when he learned that the hostages we're tourist, and knowing how this could blow up in a diplomatic disaster and being the leader of this country, he should have reassured the public and the international community that everything was under control. He should have made sure that he had the best people handling the incident. He said so himself that they didn't have the best team handiling the assault although they were there. I'm sorry for saying this but yesterday proved how he is so wanting in leadership abilities as the president. As we all know, this incident has already turned out to be a diplomatic disasater. And what's with the facial expression and look? I mean he could have at least tried to look mournful for what had happened, but its as if he was even smirking. And comparing what had happened to Moscow? THat is not so reassuring coming from a president.

He could have done a lot more I believe. Although he shouldn't take all the blame, but as the president, as the leader of this country and with the condemnation and negative image this country has gotten from the international community with the handling of the incident, the buck ultimately stops with him.

[KFC]

Ga nga-nga ra baba ni noy-noy pag-adto sa crime scene...kuyaw masudlan ug langaw!!! Atay lang ni ato presidente karon...wala jud angay mahimo commander in-chief...

[Tirong-say]

Dig deeper into the problem, Mendoza was not there to kill, but asking for a plea to reconsider his case, simple ra man unta kaayo ang problema, ngano man diay ug e-reopen iyang case, we do not know inosente lang gyud tingale siya.
It's the handling of the situation that causes death.It's not the action in the first place but the reaction.