MERGED: Quirino Grandstand Hostage Crisis

[cebulifer]

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1)as the commander-in-chief, the least noynoy could have done was call the highest ranking officer of the PNP & asked him if he has control of the situation.. kung dili available, well kung kinsa man unta ang available na high ranking official diha, sa ingon pa nimo, kana untang PMA or PNPA grad.. unya maoy mo handle sa situation, ang best people available, karon matawag bato na "best" team to do the job dapat wla siya mag depend kung kinsa rai tua did2 na mga tawo, dapat as president, nag pada unta siya og reliable na tawo available kay C-I-C man siya..

2)do you think kung mag impose og media blackout ang ground commander did2, mo tuo kaha ang media pero kung ni pa gawas pa 2 dayun og statement ang malacanang na media blackout, dali unta dayon maka abot sa media kung unsa dapat ang himuon nila to help w/ the situation.. ka2 diay pagka kidnap ni ces drilon, pag media blackout, tuman man lagi tanan.. pero diha lang sad ni patuo ang media kay kauban man nila ang namilegro.. mas sayon unta kung ang president mismo ang nag declare dayon og media blackout..

3)of course nobody was sure of the outcome, but at least para mahibaw sa tanan that the president was aware of what was happening, ni-release unta siya og statement like 'i have sent high officials of the PNP to assess the situation & we are doing everything blah blah blah' ,pra at least man lang makit-an nga naay gi himo pra ma resolve kining international incident..

kung ang police force ang incompetent, the least the president could have done was send the best team available to handle the situation, naa did2 ang camp crame, aguinaldo.. naa man untay mga maau diha na pma or pnpa grad sa forces na2, cyaro sad ,pero kanang gi buhar nasad niya is the 'pontius pilate move' ,hugas dayon sa kamot.. kung na successful 2, aw hatag cya award, pero kung nayagaw, fotbol kung kinsay angay fotbolon (murag pagasa)

i dont know why you keep defending a president who has no balls to fight for you.. i only have a few friends & i can count them w/ my fingers, but at anytime i'd gladly give up my life for them, cause i know they would do the same for me, its a band of brothers, as simple as that... but the president doesnt earn my respect, he is indecisive & inept in situations like this.. you keep defending him but when the time comes when he has to defend you, do you think he'd do anything to save your life?? you may just be another statistical number to him & a sorry speech in the making..

during the iraq invasion when a marine girl (19yr old i think) had their convoy ambushed, the injured girl was captured & taken to an iraqi hospital, people in the US government pulled strings, CIA NSA, & days after the girl was rescued by navy seals.. when somali pirates captured a ship & the captain made a deal w/ the pirates to spare the crew & take him, navy seals came to the rescue & did a wonderful job.. the philippines is well behind compared to the US military BUT as commander-in-chief, you should know that the best people to handle critical situations is at your own disposal, as a leader, mao unta ni gi himo ni noynoy, call all high ranking officers, ask what his options are, then choose an option he finds best & be ready for the consequences.. dili siya sikat sa military & police BUT at least he should have earned their respect.. mas mo respeto pa unta ang mga people in uniform kung mao 2 iya gi himo.. wala man gani nahadlok dawat og responsibility ang president sa russia during the moviehouse hostage taking, naay nangamatay na hostage unya patay tanan hostage taker.. as a leader you will be faced w/ scary & hairy situations, the outcome maybe bad BUT what matters is that you took action, made the best option & took responsibility, i never felt noynoy lift a finger for what happened..

Totally agree with you. I think PNoy didn't do enough for this situation. He didn't even make the call to HongKong to assure them that he will resolve this situation peacefully and with no bloodshed. PNoy cant do a Pontius Pilate move here. He's the president. Command Responsibility!!!

Lets see in the coming days who his handlers will spin this.

will they blame gloria for the ineptness of the police?

[butitoy]

pero unsaon, nag pina pontius pilate move naman sad siya.. unya mag ala pagasa nasad ni, fotbol kinsay fotbolon.. epic fail

fotbol kinsay fotbolon!
fotbol kinsay fotbolon!fotbol kinsay fotbolon!
fotbol kinsay fotbolon!fotbol kinsay fotbolon!fotbol kinsay fotbolon!
fotbol kinsay fotbolon!fotbol kinsay fotbolon!fotbol kinsay fotbolon!fotbol kinsay fotbolon!

[jd_cellphone]

1)as the commander-in-chief, the least noynoy could have done was call the highest ranking officer of the PNP & asked him if he has control of the situation.. kung dili available, well kung kinsa man unta ang available na high ranking official diha, sa ingon pa nimo, kana untang PMA or PNPA grad.. unya maoy mo handle sa situation, ang best people available, karon matawag bato na "best" team to do the job dapat wla siya mag depend kung kinsa rai tua did2 na mga tawo, dapat as president, nag pada unta siya og reliable na tawo available kay C-I-C man siya..

2)do you think kung mag impose og media blackout ang ground commander did2, mo tuo kaha ang media pero kung ni pa gawas pa 2 dayun og statement ang malacanang na media blackout, dali unta dayon maka abot sa media kung unsa dapat ang himuon nila to help w/ the situation.. ka2 diay pagka kidnap ni ces drilon, pag media blackout, tuman man lagi tanan.. pero diha lang sad ni patuo ang media kay kauban man nila ang namilegro.. mas sayon unta kung ang president mismo ang nag declare dayon og media blackout..

3)of course nobody was sure of the outcome, but at least para mahibaw sa tanan that the president was aware of what was happening, ni-release unta siya og statement like 'i have sent high officials of the PNP to assess the situation & we are doing everything blah blah blah' ,pra at least man lang makit-an nga naay gi himo pra ma resolve kining international incident..

kung ang police force ang incompetent, the least the president could have done was send the best team available to handle the situation, naa did2 ang camp crame, aguinaldo.. naa man untay mga maau diha na pma or pnpa grad sa forces na2, cyaro sad ,pero kanang gi buhar nasad niya is the 'pontius pilate move' ,hugas dayon sa kamot.. kung na successful 2, aw hatag cya award, pero kung nayagaw, fotbol kung kinsay angay fotbolon (murag pagasa)

i dont know why you keep defending a president who has no balls to fight for you.. i only have a few friends & i can count them w/ my fingers, but at anytime i'd gladly give up my life for them, cause i know they would do the same for me, its a band of brothers, as simple as that... but the president doesnt earn my respect, he is indecisive & inept in situations like this.. you keep defending him but when the time comes when he has to defend you, do you think he'd do anything to save your life?? you may just be another statistical number to him & a sorry speech in the making..

during the iraq invasion when a marine girl (19yr old i think) had their convoy ambushed, the injured girl was captured & taken to an iraqi hospital, people in the US government pulled strings, CIA NSA, & days after the girl was rescued by navy seals.. when somali pirates captured a ship & the captain made a deal w/ the pirates to spare the crew & take him, navy seals came to the rescue & did a wonderful job.. the philippines is well behind compared to the US military BUT as commander-in-chief, you should know that the best people to handle critical situations is at your own disposal, as a leader, mao unta ni gi himo ni noynoy, call all high ranking officers, ask what his options are, then choose an option he finds best & be ready for the consequences.. dili siya sikat sa military & police BUT at least he should have earned their respect.. mas mo respeto pa unta ang mga people in uniform kung mao 2 iya gi himo.. wala man gani nahadlok dawat og responsibility ang president sa russia during the moviehouse hostage taking, naay nangamatay na hostage unya patay tanan hostage taker.. as a leader you will be faced w/ scary & hairy situations, the outcome maybe bad BUT what matters is that you took action, made the best option & took responsibility, i never felt noynoy lift a finger for what happened..

I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH YOU......

Where is the COMMANDER in CHIEF by that time?
The Chief of Staff?
The Mayor?

[cebulifer]

btaw, the least he could do was talk to HK officials, assure them that he sent the best people for the job (ang kuyaw lang a2 kung mao na2y best sa a2ang swat team, then we are surely doomed), & that he has an update of the situation every minute & he's closely following.. & that he's meeting w/ the high officials of the PNP & AFP to have control of the situation.. pra at least kung naay bati mahitabo, maka ingon sad siya na gi try na nila tanan gi himo nila & sometimes bati gyud ang outcome sa ing-ani na mga situation..

pero unsaon, nag pina pontius pilate move naman sad siya.. unya mag ala pagasa nasad ni, fotbol kinsay fotbolon.. epic fail

mao gyud!!! dili lagi mahimo ng pontius pilate move!!! president na gud siya!!!

he should have been in constant contact with the HK officials from the start! morag update every 30minutes ba. mao ning demands. naka gawas mga bata.. etc etc. ana ba. morag feeling sa taga HK na naglingkod lang si PNoy unya walay gihimo.

[cebulifer]

pero unsaon, nag pina pontius pilate move naman sad siya.. unya mag ala pagasa nasad ni, fotbol kinsay fotbolon.. epic fail

fotbol kinsay fotbolon!
fotbol kinsay fotbolon!fotbol kinsay fotbolon!
fotbol kinsay fotbolon!fotbol kinsay fotbolon!fotbol kinsay fotbolon!
fotbol kinsay fotbolon!fotbol kinsay fotbolon!fotbol kinsay fotbolon!fotbol kinsay fotbolon!

awww... kung ana na pud... mas maayo mu-resign or early retirement na mga police generals karon! apil sa command responsibility na. sa ineptness sa mga swat... ang NCR police chief should be the first to be fired. mga SWAT demoted one rank then balik training. lesson #1: unsaon pag gamit sa maso!!!

[harzegs2010]

Paita...basin basa pa uban nilang gear gi hayhay pa...or wala pa malabhi^^ or ang gear na nila sa ila motor kay ila helmet para man pud sa motor hehehe...unya ang pisi naputol pajud..unsaon pud oi..
ang alegre ang tear gas paglabay nibanda pajud mura man gaduwa2x ra..unsa kahag granada to noh
kalooy pud sa mga hostage gi labayan ug tear gas..

[wak_wak]

Now its the blaming game.. Now blaming our president for this one, "maybe" he gave the GO order for the assault, but when the assault started it was now the responsibility of SWAT Team who executed the order! Blame gloria arroyo! If our SWAT Team is properly trained and fully equipped, for sure the assault was successful, if the money she pocket was used in the training and buying of new equipment for the armed forces for sure the assault was executed properly. If our armed forces was given significant budget and training during her 9 year term, for sure the operation was properly executed.

[ferdM16]

ang epic fail ni PNoy for me is not talking to Tsang of HK. Pagsugod unta sa crisis.... siya na unta nakigistorya ba. Assuring Tsang that PNoy will do whatever it takes for a peaceful settlement. morag gisnob man hinuon!

mao black travel advisory ang pilipinas sa hongkong ron!

I agree with you... presidente snoban ang usa ka presidente on a critical situation. pagka tiw tiw.

[miramax]

grabe man sad si pnoy, udto pa gi pa gawas sa breaking news na naay hostage crisis unya wla gyuy statement gikan sa malacanang?? 1pm pa lang na headline na sa yahoo.. its true the president doesnt have balls to handle something like this.. tan awa gud to sa peninsula seige, ka daghan mahimo hostage a2, unya na resolve man lagi.. ka2 usa ra ka hostage taker unya dako kaaung disaster..

pero kahibaw ko sa moves ni noynoy a2 nga situation, ma huwat ra cya unsay mahitabo.. kung ma successful gani, aw hatag ra siya award kung kinsay hatagan, kung mag kayagaw gani, aw footbolon ra niya kinsay pwede ma footbol (just like pagasa), unya hugas siya kamot niya, pontius pilate move..

when you are the commander-in-chief ,naa unta kay access sa the best of what PNP & AFP has to offer, & besides manila is our capital country, manila should have an elite swat team & not just manila, all major cities naman lang unta, lets say manila,cebu & davao.. ni abot nalang gabii, wala man gani crowd control.. kung presidente siya, at least ni tawag unta siya sa pulis pra pada-an og additional pulis did2 pra crowd control, mga 200 policemen (kay international incident gud na) pra crowd control lang & i-cordon off ang lugar, at least 1 sq. kilometer, unya ang mga elite units og negotiating team mao ray naa sa sud.. unya mo reason mo nga dili na kang noynoy trabaho kay dili man cya pulis or wla cya military training?? ang role sa president commander-in-chief sad na.. under sa iyaha ang PNP og AFP & he should learn the ways of the military & police whether he likes it or not, pero nakit-an gyud an indecisiveness niya hinuon niya, siyaro gikan udto hangtud gabii wla gyud sa ka kita sa news?? before i heard rumors that he doesnt have balls, now i do believe it..

Not only that , given the fact, nga nagplea intawn to ang brother sa hostage taker asking Pnoy to intervene over Mendoza's case but there was no response from our dear Pnoy, hahayz.
Dili bah may tulubagon sya sa mga tawo?

[harzegs2010]

unsaon ang pilipinas unya raman mo lihok kung nahitabo na..mangita pa biya ug experience usa mabuhat... na a hinuon na among nga bata..asa kaha to gikan..