Rumor: Palace gives out money to the church.... creepy...

[FK]

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You people keep harping on these supposed "technicalities", yet you have failed to elaborate on what these "technicalities" even are. "Technicalities" are simply the opposition's defensive labeling of the law to excuse their own incompetence to pursue legal battles.

isn't it obvious what technicalities i was referring to? wasn't the first ammended impeachment complaint was scrap based on the issue that there was a prior complaint filed thus the scrapping of it... that's technicality right? Just like the votation wether to open the 2nd envelope or not.

With regards to labeling... mind you, it's not only the opposition that is using it... it is also the administration.

[cerebus]

the present situation lacks some or all the factors. the present president is not that bad as of the previous two. this is debatetable but i don't want to dwell on it. second, who's going to replace her? this one is also debatable. lastly the present climate have not reach, and will never reach the critical mass that will force people to take the street. there's no 'second envelope.'

but i guess during Marcos time... it take the people a very long time before they act on the it. You just wonder why? does the people never see it coming? IMO the reason why it takes us too long to boot out Marcos because he was brilliant. plain and simple... and knows how to play the politics... pareho ra ni sa kalaki ni GMA.

ninoy and cardinal sin. that mobilized people to hit the street. it's not that marcos is brilliant. the opposition don't have a martyr like ninoy and a person of moral authority like cardinal sin. all they have is a bunch of guys with messianic attitude, adventurist, leftist and politician/ businessmen with personal agenda.

i don't understand about the analogy between envelop and the lack of votes. the second envelop was not opened because they got the vote. the second impeachment will not be elevated to the senate because they lack the vote. ang tawo masuko jud na kung ang iya ganahan dili mahitabo. masuko ta pero we have to follow the rule or resort to people power or kudeta and what have you. be sure nga daug mo para dili mo mapreso.

the analogy is plain and simple... the evidence where not shown because of technicality.

right. so they should do what joker arroyo advised them to do: "shut up and get the number."

pero wala jud ta proof that it is pampadulas..bisan unsaon nato speculate..

yeah there's no proof... but why are also people speculating that ERAP is behind the destabilization? That the opposition are all the same (tuta ni ERAP).

brilliant question. maybe because erap have everything to gain if gloria is impeached.

i don't believe the whole opposition are tuta ni erap. they are just bunch of people who want to get into power by any means even sleeping with the enemy (leftist and military adventurist, erap supporters and the so-called "civil groups" (can't find the words. sorry)).

[craz_beautiful_ava]

awa ra jud.. geulian ra gani ang mga pari sa ila nagasto sa travel..hemuan jud dayon ug istorya..the timing of the reimbursement just made thing heat up..

sakto jud ka @tolstoi, wala naman issue..tapos na..

so is there a reason nga patas-on pa ni??

[istoryador]

aww human ang topic!

Last year, when House of Reps thrashed the impeachment, Malacanang said that the issue has been closed. A year after it is still hounding them and it intensifies more.

I would just let Malacanang and its supporters say everything is over. They are free to say that. Only time will tell when will the legitimacy issue of GMA will be over.

[Teban2006]

sus sakadaghan buslot sa administrasyon ni Arovo, ^_^ wla pa gyud ta maka kita, klaro na kaayo, gusto lng nila ma kuha ang support sa church, ug klaro na kaayo dunay sayup nga gusto lng gyud nila tabunan, ang simbahan tataw ug klaro baya ng ilang mga gipanulti, based na sa ilang stand as church, kng dunay issue, mo stand as neutral lng na sila kng dili pa klaro nila ang saktong tubag or if they need more time to desern.

Kadtong news nga bag-o lng, nga administrayon kunoy nag offer ug dinner sa CBCP during their meeting, DILI na tinoud oi, mismo ang bishop nga nag ready sa dinner nila maoy nag explain kng unsa ka sayup ang gigwas sa news after the meeting. Ang ni atiman nila ug help for dinner dili usa ka politician, usa kini ka active church servant lng nga dunay gamay sang gasa nga gihatag sa ginoo, ug dili nang ilang giingong active politician period.

[FK]

brilliant question. maybe because erap have everything to gain if gloria is impeached.

it is as if it is so easy for them to bring back erap or just scrap the case against ERAP... whoever will do that will do a political suicide.

i don't believe the whole opposition are tuta ni erap. they are just bunch of people who want to get into power by any means even sleeping with the enemy (leftist and military adventurist, erap supporters and the so-called "civil groups" (can't find the words. sorry)).

this is the typical labeling of the current administration... that all opposition are just power-grabbers. Ang current administration can be consider a power-grabber. They too have conspired with the leftist and also with the military.

[wanderlust]

isn't it obvious what technicalities i was referring to? wasn't the first ammended impeachment complaint was scrap based on the issue that there was a prior complaint filed thus the scrapping of it... that's technicality right? Just like the votation wether to open the 2nd envelope or not.

With regards to labeling... mind you, it's not only the opposition that is using it... it is also the administration.

Boy oh boy. Again you are showing your ignorance of the law by referring to it as "mere technicalities". It seems that you think the law regarding these matters is OPTIONAL and can be simply disregarded at your convenience. Despite your total faith in the opposition's impeachment complaint, it is a FACT that another complaint has been filed before it, and under the law, the first complaint is the one to be considered. That's not mere technicality, that's the law! You have got to have such a thick head if this glaring fact still hasn't penetrated it at this point. And stop constantly injecting Erap's case which is totally irrelevant to this discussion, besides already having been exhaustively discussed.

[FK]

Boy oh boy. Again you are showing your ignorance of the law by referring to it as "mere technicalities". It seems that you think the law regarding these matters is OPTIONAL and can be simply disregarded at your convenience. Despite your total faith in the opposition's impeachment complaint, it is a FACT that another complaint has been filed before it, and under the law, the first complaint is the one to be considered. That's not mere technicality, that's the law! You have got to have such a thick head if this glaring fact still hasn't penetrated it at this point. And stop constantly injecting Erap's case which is totally irrelevant to this discussion, besides already having been exhaustively discussed.

forgive me for being ignorant in your eyes or in your opinion... may boy oh boy pa.

the term technicality isn't it a word used by lawyers? by winning not by weight of evidence but only thru the ruling? Like a drug lord being acquited because the items that were seized where found not included in the search warrant. Isn't it what we call technicality?

But again as to you i'm ignorant... I may be wrong... can you state to me what is a technicality? Did GMA escaped the first impeachment because of the weight of evidence?

hehehehe... bati jud ma compare kng ERAP og Marcos sa... but can't help it... they are both corrupt in my eyes.

sori again... i should stop now... Super OT na.

[tolstoi]

hehehehe... bati jud ma compare kng ERAP og Marcos sa... but can't help it... they are both corrupt in my eyes.

and so are the rest of the politicians =)

[pridi]

and so are the rest of the politicians =)

mao jud.... magpa adopt nalang lagi ta sa US oi, para patas tang tanan