Is it fair that the Catholic Church should be exempted from paying taxes?

[Siobhan]

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I think there is misunderstanding here .. The members of the Church, do pay taxes. Besides there are many other taxes imposed and they pay that too. Only charitable, non profit church based organizations ( and this includes ALL CHURCHES and RELIGIONS!!!) are exempted from paying Tax but, have to report to the BIR all their books and accounting: receipts, donations, etc... Failure to do so means penalty! Why charitable insititutions are not taxed? Because it is the responsibility of the State to look for the good of its citizens .. but our government can not do all .. it had to have partners; thus, the catholic church, protestant churches, christian churches, Islamic Org, Hindu's, etc and etc ... come in. Why should the State taxes institutions doing what it should be doing: free school to the poor, feeding, housing clothing, hospitalizing, etc the poor citizens? Many among us are just biased towards the Catholic Church in particular .. and we even post demeaning thoughts .. I wish these should research first, before posting!

ang taw kung masobraan sa kalaam kulikoton jud ang tanang kinauyokan para masayran ang kamatooran

[RonIvs]

dapat na sila mu bayad oi. mga baga ug nawng. kusug pa jud kaayo mag apil2 sa mga affairs sa state. separate entity man kaha na sila. wa jud nay ayo nang religion oi. puro sat sat. may lang sermon2 nya mas maka sasala pa diay to sa mga ordinaryo nga tao. never regretted renouncing my religion 6-7 years ago.

[masterjanuarius]

Are you referring to religions in the philippines? free school to the poor?, feeding?, housing clothing? hospitalizing(whatever this means)? etc to the poor citizens (of the philippines?).
Maybe im just ignorant but sa 34 years nako aning kalibutana wala ko kita or kadungog na nang hatag simbahan ug bisan usa sa imong gi ingon. To be specific Mabolo Church always nako madungog "ang atong second collection kay atong ipahinugod sa pagpahimo ug tiwas sa second floor sa atong simbahan"... I dont think its being biased, your not living in reality. Blinded ka sa hangtod karon sa abuso sa simbahan ug sa kaparian.

San Carlos- walay tax, unya kung malate kag bayad sa tuition kay palinyahon kag taman unya pa commiton pa gyud ka kanus a ka mubayad..segurista unya walay bayad bayad ug tax!

As personal experience ang ka ulaw na dili ka take ug midterm exam kay wala ka bayad. (is it morally correct?) ang increase pa sa tuition fee is yearly and yet wala sila bayad bayad sa tax.

Recently, Naka adto ko sa ilang Marine Bio extenstion sa may Maribago, If makakita mo sa tapad na rest house sa mga SVD. Didto magrelax ang mga pari, naa own driver, aircon centralized...Living like a king. So mas maau naa sila Tax! Sige tuition fee increase para sa ilang mga rest house.

Same with other religion...Mike Velarde owns a tv station, built a multi million church, iglesia ni kristo sa manila kay murag palasyo na ilang lugar, si ruben ecleo na murag palasyo ang balay with all the perks (***, drugs and rock in roll) ug daghan pa! mao na patuyang lang ni sila sa ilang gibati kay wala ni silay bayad bayad ug tax!

Mabolo is not the whole catholic church in the Philippines bro .. go to mindanao, kay makaluluoy ang mga pari ug madre didto .. daghan pa jud gipaeskwela nga skolar .. adto sa Boondoc Region bro .. kay makakita ka ug kinabuhi sa mga pari nga di nimo katuohan (nakit-an nako kay nag community experience ko didto uban sa mga aetas) .. adto sa Baseco compound, tondo, bro kay kita ug mga pari nga kauban sa mga makaluluoy nga kahimtang .. bisan ikaw siguro bro dili magdugay didto sa kabaho sa lugar .. ngano palayo man gud ta .. anaa diha pasil ay, mga bata ug tiguwang nga giatiman sa mga madre .. kadaot gud nato, puro baliko ang tan-awon, dili ang maayo nabuhat sa simbahan .. reklamo mo sa Tuition sa san carlos .. ug duna pa nay Tax, mas mahal inyong baryonon sa skul bro .. akoang pag umangkon, I.S. ga eskwela, pilay tuition? more than a hundred thousand!!! If mao na inyong gusto, why not? mabuhi siguro ang mga school ana nga tuition bro ... salamat kay tax free, mao ubos inyong bayranan sad, with quality education ... akoang college bro sa gawas sa nasud kay di moubos sa $45K .. dili tanan maka eskwela sa gawas .. ngari sa pilipinas, tanan pwede, salamat sa mga charitable institutions ug sa simbahan makatoliko man o uban pa ... pero manglikramo gihapon ta ..

[masterjanuarius]

free school for the poor... there are some. but how about those exclusive catholic schools for the rich? are they taxed too?

As I have known, the exclusive schools are subsidizing free schools for the poor ... or have an equivalent number of non paying students from the poor families ... hospitals run by Nuns or priests, have free beds for the indigents ... As I know for example, this my cousin told me since her children go to an exclusive school, that for each paying student a corresponding poor student is being paid for by their tuition .. well, it really depends on the arrangements between the government and the charitable institutions really. As I know ...

[Tirong-say]

Then is it unlawful or lawful, naa may exemption, pero naa ba pud diay conditions sa exemption nga kinahanglan dili sila mohilabot kabahin sa moral issue sa pang-gobiyerno.....

[BoiKrypton]

The issue here is TAX. I dont think we should consider religion as non profit organization. Roman Catholic church ang target because sila ang pinaka dako ug kita. There is something wrong with the system.

And kanang ilang benefit na no tax kay ila ng gi avail since nahimo tang pilipinas, its about time to change it. Transparency, accounting, and Tax para katong mga taga mabolo na naglisud maka tilaw sa kita sa simbahan. Kay murag taga pasil, baseco, taga mindanao na remote ang naka tilaw sa hinatag sa mga taw. So ang kita sa sto nino, sa cathedral ug sa ubang dako na simbahan gi share na nila sa taga pasil?

We pay taxes and we are earning thousand range lang, they earn millions and yet no taxes, do you think the church would gave away 1 million per month for charity? I dont think so...

Have you ever wonder asa padung ang money? sa vatican? sa ilang bulsa? sa charity? walay kabaw kay wlay accounting.

The reason why dili mo progress ang pilipinas tungod kay sobra ra kaau ta ka religious, moralist, and hangtod karon daghan na ilad sa mga Pari. For 300 years gi daug daug ta sa simbahan.

Its about time to let them pay!...Pay Taxes!

[emow]

The issue here is TAX. I dont think we should consider religion as non profit organization. Roman Catholic church ang target because sila ang pinaka dako ug kita. There is something wrong with the system.

And kanang ilang benefit na no tax kay ila ng gi avail since nahimo tang pilipinas, its about time to change it. Transparency, accounting, and Tax para katong mga taga mabolo na naglisud maka tilaw sa kita sa simbahan. Kay murag taga pasil, baseco, taga mindanao na remote ang naka tilaw sa hinatag sa mga taw. So ang kita sa sto nino, sa cathedral ug sa ubang dako na simbahan gi share na nila sa taga pasil?

We pay taxes and we are earning thousand range lang, they earn millions and yet no taxes, do you think the church would gave away 1 million per month for charity? I dont think so...

Have you ever wonder asa padung ang money? sa vatican? sa ilang bulsa? sa charity? walay kabaw kay wlay accounting.

The reason why dili mo progress ang pilipinas tungod kay sobra ra kaau ta ka religious, moralist, and hangtod karon daghan na ilad sa mga Pari. For 300 years gi daug daug ta sa simbahan.

Its about time to let them pay!...Pay Taxes!

Much of the funds of the church are by way of donations and not by profit, which will then be forwarded to the Vatican for redistribution. The church doesn't require a tithe to its members, it has no mandatory collections, it doesn't excommunicate any its members for non-donating...meaning its funds is dependent on the contributions of its members, not by profit... and once all Types of Donations will be taxed, many charitable institutions will suffer. Inspite of the bad eggs the Church hsa produced, there are still members who contribute productively to the society....apil na ku ana.

[masterjanuarius]

The issue here is TAX. I dont think we should consider religion as non profit organization. Roman Catholic church ang target because sila ang pinaka dako ug kita. There is something wrong with the system.

And kanang ilang benefit na no tax kay ila ng gi avail since nahimo tang pilipinas, its about time to change it. Transparency, accounting, and Tax para katong mga taga mabolo na naglisud maka tilaw sa kita sa simbahan. Kay murag taga pasil, baseco, taga mindanao na remote ang naka tilaw sa hinatag sa mga taw. So ang kita sa sto nino, sa cathedral ug sa ubang dako na simbahan gi share na nila sa taga pasil?

We pay taxes and we are earning thousand range lang, they earn millions and yet no taxes, do you think the church would gave away 1 million per month for charity? I dont think so...

Have you ever wonder asa padung ang money? sa vatican? sa ilang bulsa? sa charity? walay kabaw kay wlay accounting.

The reason why dili mo progress ang pilipinas tungod kay sobra ra kaau ta ka religious, moralist, and hangtod karon daghan na ilad sa mga Pari. For 300 years gi daug daug ta sa simbahan.

Its about time to let them pay!...Pay Taxes!

Lansar pagka presidente Bro! pero, giunsa ka ma "pagdaog daog sa simbahan"? Is it your figure of speech or you can give us concrete bullying experience upon you by the "simbahan"? Basta ako bro, I dont pretend too much from the Church to help me, just because I give donations, collecta, etc .. I know that the Church needs my little contribution for the good of countless, faceless persons ... I am not concerned if priests have cars much expensive than I have .. after all, the also have remunerations for their ministries .. why? they must have saved their money to buy such or applied a car loan from a bank ... Just because they are priests, they don't have to be miserable ... siguro sa imong pangutana, asa paingon ang kwarta sa simbahan, pangutana diha sa inyong pari o diha ba sa patria ... basin they can enlighten you instead of just saying things ...

[moot]

one of the reasons why our country's poor is because people like to leave it all to God.

"wa koy trabaho."

"aw, pag-ampo sa Ginoo nga maka trabaho ka!"

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"wa koy kwarta."

"pag ampo lang sa Ginoo kay basta mag cge lang ug ampo, mu abot ra na ang grasya"

This is a wrong understanding of God's work. "Lihok taw kay tabangan ko ikaw" which means, not to leave everything to God. This is called "grace".

"And God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work" (2 Corinthians 9:

This is not literal. God works in mysterious ways para naku. Filipinos just don't have the correct grasp of God's grace. It's religion's fault, Roman Catholicism lacking gyud kaayo. Kasagarang mga Katoliko walay saktong pagsabot sa ilang gituhuan. Wali kada Dominggo is not enough. Mao nang gamiton nalang pud sa mga anti-religionists nga generalization sa tanang motuo ug Ginoo which is sayop.

[Tirong-say]

I beg to disagree, how can you say that the Roman Catholics are lacking, in what religion did you came from?,

It's not the roman catholics only that is tax exempted other religion as well, no matter what you would do, the 1.6 billion will remain a 1.6 billion we will never convert......