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  1. #41

    sus... pilots gyud ang giampingan!!! ihatag na ang salary demands oi. nag save ka lagi sa ilang salary. but wa man pud ning lupad ang eroplano. so alkanse ka pa!!!

  2. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by slyder10 View Post
    if this is about salaries and benefits, why does cebupacs pilots aren't complaining. do they have bigger salaries than of pal? i think there's more to this so called uprising and mass resignation. or maybe cebupacs contract is more tighter than of pals' that's why they can't complain...
    cebupac has much lower salaries, that i can tell you.

  3. #43
    Maau untag tinuod ni. Basin publicity ra ni bah.
    Naa ra ba ko flyt karon sabado.

    Hopefully dili ma-cancel.

  4. #44

  5. #45
    Truths needed to be Heard: PAL FAIL!!!!! <<< sorry for cross posting. i think this is the reason.

  6. #46
    Ila gireklamo is ang entire system man sa PAL sa pagpadagan sa ilang mga tawo...

    Saw the report yesterday, madahan nimo, ila mga domestic flight stewards, below minimum unya 3 yrs. na in service...
    Mandatory retirement is @ age 40 sa mga bag-o, 55 for other stewards.

  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by jodencio View Post
    Truths needed to be Heard: PAL FAIL!!!!! <<< sorry for cross posting. i think this is the reason.
    this is the same thing that my friend working as an FA in air phil said to me. she fears the worst has yet to come

  8. #48
    Hi guys, let me share to you an email trail that I receive. This was sent to specific recipients and I've been given the privilege from the original recipient of this email purposely send this to everyone to shed light from this current issue. As I see it, the previous administrations are to be blamed for this. If there was an open market for airlines before, then the government and its people wont fully depend on PAL alone. Monopoly is a tragedy for consumers as I say!!! This email is a bit long but I hope you can take the time to read it.

    ----------------------

    To
    <wecare@pal.com.ph>
    cc
    <editor@philstar.com>, <peopleasia@gmail.com>,
    <thefreemannewspaper@yahoo.com>, <*****@philstar.com.ph>
    Subject
    Concerned

    To Whom it May Concern:

    As a concerned consumer and loyal customer of Philippines Airlines I must
    question some of it's policies. The pilots are trying to improve their
    standard of living by seeking a change in employment and who could blame
    them. In law when a person makes a decision which is deemed unfair and
    one-sided it could be consider as being made under duress. Whilst PAL has
    truly done some great things over the years; is it conceivable, asking
    someone to provide six months notice before they resign? Sure they may have
    accepted the contract when they were looking for a job; but where is the
    mutual benefit. The employee will find it near impossible to find another
    job if they must wait six months and the employment market is not that
    flexible for an employer to wait six months for a new hire and PAL
    understands that. The reason a rule like that is in place, can only be to
    serve the employer; it restricts free choice, competition and amounts to
    forced servitude. Just because you have a contract does not make it fair
    and just!

    Which brings me to my point:

    Why does the airline double charge and triple charge (No show fee, refund
    fee and rebooking fee) customers for changes. What happened to the days
    when there was the change fee? It's not fair and it seems like an unfair
    trade practice and the fact that other airlines are doing the same; gives
    cause for concern.

    Maybe the DOTC should investigate the unfair trade practices and price
    fixing within the airline industry, and the Department of Labor should look
    into the contracts of the Pilots.

    At the end of the day we all want to be treated fairly!

    ---------RESPONSE-------------

    From: Customer Relations <wecare@pal.com.ph>
    Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2010 14:48:52
    To: <*******@gmail.com>
    Subject: Letter from Philippine Airlines

    Dear Mr. ***** *,

    Please allow us to explain the policy in question. We believe the policy
    requiring the pilots a minimum of six (6) months notice if they want to
    transfer to a foreign airline is not a unilateral condition imposed by PAL.
    Apart from being a contractual obligation freely agreed by the pilots, the
    six (6) months notice is also pursuant to POEA Memorandum Circular No. 3
    series of 2006 declaring pilots as "Mission Critical - with shortage in the
    Philippines". The greater picture, therefore, is the safety and security
    of the Philippines and the economic effect it will create in the
    Philippines if the regulations will cater to a mass exodus of pilots to
    other country. This will not only cripple the air transportation business
    of the Philippines but also all other businesses that are dependent on the
    airlines. We have already seen this when PAL closed down in 1998 when
    pilots of PAL refused to go to work.

    We hope that you will agree with us that foreign airlines supported by
    their respective governments have the upper hand in making a lucrative
    offer to the pilots. Firstly, they no longer have to train these pilots,
    they will merely reap the benefits in training these pilots to proficiency.
    Their savings in training these pilots may, therefore, be translated into
    monetary considerations. It may be noteworthy to point out that it takes a
    Captain approximately ten (10) years in view of the flying hours needed for
    him to qualify as a Captain. It would potentially threaten the safety of
    Philippine aviation if all Captains would be pirated by foreign countries.

    Secondly, these pilots are considered by foreign carriers as contractual
    employees; hence, they do not need to provide medical, retirement and other
    benefits similar to those provided by PAL. Again, they maybe translated
    into savings into monetary considerations for the pilots. Thirdly, the
    customers of these foreign airlines are dollar based earners unlike
    Filipinos who are earning in pesos; hence, for PAL to compete under the
    situation will be to lose track of the consumer basis. Lastly, the
    countries wherein these airlines operate have certainly higher standards of
    living; hence, they need to provide bigger compensation.

    With respect to your comment on the collection of the fees, such as refund,
    no-show and rebooking fees, on the refund fee, please allow us to explain
    that need to impose these administrative fees, otherwise all passengers
    will just indiscriminately book and purchase tickets since there is no risk
    on their part. Such is necessary, therefore, to recover the administrative
    costs of booking. On the no-show fee and rebooking fee, these are
    necessary penalties in order that the passengers will not just book and
    thereafter not show up for their flight which is detrimental to the
    business. The business of air transportation is highly perishable in the
    sense that once the aircraft departs with an empty seat due to the fact
    that the passenger did not show-up, that empty seat is already a revenue
    loss that could no longer be recovered. Most tickets that have these
    penalties and conditions are promotional tickets; hence, they are also
    highly restricted. Passengers may opt to purchase unrestricted tickets,
    which does not have such penalties but have higher fares. Promotional and
    restricted tickets are recent innovations in order to make air
    transportation available to a greater part of the public. Under the
    promotional scheme, the airline expects that the ticket will be flown as
    provided in the fare condition and as agreed by the passenger upon
    purchase. These promotional fares and its conditions which includes the
    penalties is sanctioned by the Philippine Civil Aeronautics Board when it
    approved the fare to make affordable prices for passengers who have
    definite flight plans.

    Mr. ***** *. thank you for the opportunity to address your concerns. There
    are ongoing talks among the parties involved with the intervention of the
    Philippine Government. We can only hope to resolve the labor dispute soon
    with the entry of the government.

    Very truly yours,


    RAIZZA DUTERTE
    Customer Management Officer
    Customer Relations
    rd/

  9. #49
    Hay.... ka sad ani oi.

  10. #50
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    Dapat tuloy ang ligaya. Pasagdi nang mga pilotoha. Abusado na kaayo na sila. Pagka-dagko na ug sweldo ana nila + benefits. Gusto nila ipa-standardize internationaly ilahang salary? wow! pre! ka-hayahay gud nila..If pakaging gyud ni sila, dapat GOVERNMENT MUST TAKE OVER. Naapektuhan na kaayo ang mga tawo ug ang tourism...Tan-awon tag asa na sila pamuniton...Paadtua na sila sa gawas nasud pa-trabahua, tan-awon tag dili ba mo tagam. Gatuo siguro nilag sayon trabaho sa gawas ai...Kanan uban diha, naamong ra man sila mao nanguyog ug strike. Hala! pasmo gani mo.linti-an jud mo. Gatuo seguro ug sayon ngetag trabaho esp. pilot!!!...Problem is, qualified kaha mo sa gawas? kadaghan ug ngil-ngig nga pilotos gawas ah and well trained in a very hi-tech facilities....hala! usapa nya na ninyo.

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