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  1. #21

    apply ku pilot PAL beh lol

  2. #22
    I got this email circulating around, I would like to point out that this does not only concern PAL's current issue with their pilots but to all business entities in general who hire and recruit employees. This is a common thing that's happening and sad to say that even high paid positions are not so promising and secure as we all think. Read on guys, I would like to get your thoughts.

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    To Whom it May Concern:

    As a concerned consumer and loyal customer of Philippines Airlines I must question some of it's policies. The pilots are trying to improve their standard of living by seeking a change in employment and who could blame them. In law when a person makes a decision which is deemed unfair and one-sided it could be consider as being made under duress. Whilst PAL has truly done some great things over the years; is it conceivable, asking someone to provide six months notice before they resign? Sure they may have accepted the contract when they were looking for a job; but where is the mutual benefit. The employee will find it near impossible to find another job if they must wait six months and the employment market is not that flexible for an employer to wait six months for a new hire and PAL understands that. The reason a rule like that is in place, can only be to serve the employer; it restricts free choice, competition and amounts to forced servitude. Just because you have a contract does not make it fair and just!

    Which brings me to my point:

    Why does the airline double charge and triple charge (No show fee, refund fee and rebooking fee) customers for changes. What happened to the days when there was the change fee? It's not fair and it seems like an unfair trade practice and the fact that other airlines are doing the same; gives cause for concern.

    Maybe the DOTC should investigate the unfair trade practices and price fixing within the airline industry, and the Department of Labor should look into the contracts of the Pilots.

    At the end of the day we all want to be treated fairly!

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  3. #23

    Default Philippine Airlines and their Pilots -- what's the real score??? your thoughts....

    I got this email that was forwarded by a friend of mine, he is a concerned citizen. I would like to point out that this does not only concern PAL's current issue with their pilots but to all business entities in general who hire and recruit employees. This is a common thing that's happening and sad to say that even high paid positions are not so promising and secure as we all think. Read on guys, I would like to get your thoughts.


    ------------------------------------------------------

    To Whom it May Concern:

    As a concerned consumer and loyal customer of Philippines Airlines I must question some of it's policies. The pilots are trying to improve their standard of living by seeking a change in employment and who could blame them. In law when a person makes a decision which is deemed unfair and one-sided it could be consider as being made under duress. Whilst PAL has truly done some great things over the years; is it conceivable, asking someone to provide six months notice before they resign? Sure they may have accepted the contract when they were looking for a job; but where is the mutual benefit. The employee will find it near impossible to find another job if they must wait six months and the employment market is not that flexible for an employer to wait six months for a new hire and PAL understands that. The reason a rule like that is in place, can only be to serve the employer; it restricts free choice, competition and amounts to forced servitude. Just because you have a contract does not make it fair and just!

    Which brings me to my point:

    Why does the airline double charge and triple charge (No show fee, refund fee and rebooking fee) customers for changes. What happened to the days when there was the change fee? It's not fair and it seems like an unfair trade practice and the fact that other airlines are doing the same; gives cause for concern.

    Maybe the DOTC should investigate the unfair trade practices and price fixing within the airline industry, and the Department of Labor should look into the contracts of the Pilots.

    At the end of the day we all want to be treated fairly!

  4. #24
    if mass resignation happens, there must be something very wrong with the company.

  5. #25
    there's something wrong with the company, even other pilots don't want to apply at PAL anymore unless they resolve their issues.

    domestic pilots earn around 100k+ for airbus and lesser for Q400 Bombardier (airphilexpress). with your salary you get deducted 32% or something for all the taxes. also being senior pilots one would expect to be promoted to a higher rating aircraft, not to be "downgraded" from Airbus 319/320 to Q400.

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  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by c_cebrecus View Post
    there's something wrong with the company, even other pilots don't want to apply at PAL anymore unless they resolve their issues.

    domestic pilots earn around 100k+ for airbus and lesser for Q400 Bombardier (airphilexpress). with your salary you get deducted 32% or something for all the taxes. also being senior pilots one would expect to be promoted to a higher rating aircraft, not to be "downgraded" from Airbus 319/320 to Q400.
    thats 1 of the reason why....

    C lucio ra ang makinabang to be short

  8. #28
    sa una pa jud nang PAL, nhan man gud na sila contractual ra ila mga tawo or ila ipa outsource mga department nila. Mao sad ni nahitabo sa una sa mga Aircraft mechanics nila, karun gi outsource na sa Lufthansa ila maintenance nya contract na ila mga tawo dha...

  9. #29
    Sa una pa jud nang PAL, nhan man gud na sila contractual ra ila mga tawo or ila ipa outsource mga department nila. Mao sad ni nahitabo sa una sa mga Aircraft mechanics nila, karun gi outsource na sa Lufthansa ila maintenance nya contract na ila mga tawo dha...

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    you can't blame them.. they spend close to 10M per pilot for training... unsaon man diay ana nilag bawi? anya kaning mga low fare airlines kusog kau mo pirate mo offer dayon og higher than what pal offers 500,000/month... salig man sila kay wa silay gasto sa training..

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