MERGED: Vigilantism and related issues

[tolstoi]

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bitaw, vigilante should hunt the big fish.. than wasting time and lives of many.. :mrgreen:

those little fishes when in multitude could be like a BIG fish or even greater =)

[naz]

those little fishes when in multitude could be like a BIG fish or even greater =)

but if the one leading these crimes is dead, then this small multitude would scatter then be none(i think).. :mrgreen:

[tolstoi]

but if the one leading these crimes is dead, then this small multitude would scatter then be none(i think).. :mrgreen:

most of these little fishy operates on their own.

[naz]

most of these little fishy operates on their own.

wa na ko matubag boss.. hehehe

[jugs_06]

I agree. pero sa atong culture lang. In other coutries, religion na gani or race ang storyahan, patay jud. Killing is definitely ok sa ila. Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire. "metallica kaau da" hehe.

dude, you're talking about OTHER COUNTRIES here.. cebu is not america, europe, or middle east.. majority of the people in cebu are CATHOLICS.. ako im a catholic.. but honestly speaking, i don't practice my being catholic anymore.. no offense to others, but catholic man kaha mo and even some of you guys are VERY active on RC religion, mao ba na gtudlo sa atong simbahan?

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

I have demonmstrated a far greater ability to comprehend logical processes than you have.

That is SUBJECTIVE . That is ACCORDING to you . How did you know you have DEMOSNTRATED a far greater ability ? Its not even related to who has more credibility ... yes credibility as a known COPY and PASTING ARTIST .

That ought to tell you somehting. Unless, of course, you can't comprehend that either!

It does not equate to something related to the subject . I dont know if you are out of context or misleading people again .

Let's see... your baseless opinions versus reports verified from the jail authorities... that should be a no-brainer. That's something that even you can hopefully comprehend.

You have to COMPREHEND also the CREDIBILITY of your said reports as to the source of it . What JAIL AUTHORITIES are you talking about ? Does the GARCIAS operate the JAILS in Cebu now ? LOLZ !!

Another one of your failed demonstrations of brain use, eh? Bwahahaha!

Another one of your HOPELESS EXCUSES .

SO now MR MANNY BOY .... whats your suggestion to stop CHORNIC CRIME to eliminate the presence and existence of VIGILANTES ? Make it realistic so that I wont be laughing at your post for a day . Lets make a good use of your ALL KNOWING BRAIN kuno .

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

i just wanted to quote someone (i can't rmmbr the nick,im too tired to read posts) when he said "what if one of your family members are killed.. etc..etc.." if i were on that situation, then that'd prolly be a normal reaction for me to say "hey, i wish all those criminals die in hell..blah blah blah.."

Thats the whole point of why a PRO VIGILANTE mindset existed because the JUSTICE SYSTEM and the PROPER AUTHORITIES are very lame to serve JUSTICE where justice is due .

..but killing is NEVER and IS not right, and it NEVER WILL BE..

You are right ... but as to what TOLSTOI said , it will be a resort if needed to achieve the greater good .

and someone said what the heck, he knows that killing is not right but the issue here is how in the world can we handle all these criminals and make the crime rate of cebu go down..

Simple ... VIGILANTES = NO CRIMINALS / LESSER CRIMINALS .

if you're a PRO-VIGILANTE, that means you are in favor of the vigilante's wrong-doings.. simple logic, you embrace the simple notion of THEM killing people

Killing people who deserve to die , eliminating pople who are " SALOT " of the society .

even innocent ones..

According to SUNSTAR and MANNY AMADOR .

[herzabarJR]

LOL @ Vigilantes..... Mga Pre... These people dont exist as Vigilantes are people who fight crime, help the oppressed and uphold justice....They are not Batman, Superman or Spiderman... Do you think these people who are killing "criminals" right now give a rats ass about you?? If you need help on the streets, do you think they will stop to lend you a hand?? These people are hitmen who are in for the money.... Ever notice that they "operate" the same way as hired hitmen do?? Coincidence? These are hitmen given a list by handlers. These handlers also has rules on who to hit and who not to hit.. Have you ever heard of scions of rich families being hit by Vigilantes Those drug laden kids in Honda and Toyota cars who snatch and grab cellphones and bags Those kids whose "daddies" are friends of the Mayor Dili kaha mabuk-an ug ulo ang mga Vigilantes kung mo toga toga sila ani?? Mao nang kutob rana ang mga Vigilante (kuno) anang mga poor criminals who have no way of fighting back... Kanang na-tulog sa katre..... namonit ug lata, namaligya ug lanzones... As I said, they are given names by their handlers, they dont select who they shoot, criminals or not.. That's why its hard to distinguish who are "legitimate" hits of these so called Vigilantes/hitmen or not... Because these Vigilantes/hitmen are also known to accept "other jobs" as a sideline... Thats why they dont also go after BIG TIME DRUG LORDS AND SYNDICATES for the reasons of THEY MIGHT BE FRIENDS OF YOU KNOW WHO, THEY(BIG TIME CRIMINALS) HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO FIGHT BACK AND POSSIBLY WIPE THEM OUT..... THEY ARE THEIR FUTURE OR EVEN PRESENT EMPLOYERS AND LASTLY NO ONE WILL PAY THEM BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT GIVEN THEIR NAMES... Get the picture??
How to stop these vigilantes heheh VERY SIMPLE... Stop their USUAL FLOW OF MONEY... But that is the hard part.
Thats why I find it LAUGHABLE and IGNORANT with regard to people's misconception that Vigilantes do it as a service to humanity..... People's misconception that "Vigilantes read the newspaper or police records and decide there and then that these people are bad and they will kill them". Statements like "bantay lng jud ni sila sa mga vigilante. "make me laugh.

To give you a clue guys of what these vigilante people and their mindset are, I will give you an example... While we are not at liberty to discuss these new breed of vigilantes now, we can talk about the old ones, those Vigilantes in the late 80's and early 90's during Osmena's first stints as mayor. Those vigilantes who striked in Colon area killing snatchers and hold uppers...
Ever heard of the policemen family commonly referred to the LEO community as the Luzano Brothers of A.Lopez Street?? Their handler was Nato Osmena... Do you think the Luzano Brothers are good people as they have become untouchable in their area, selling drugs and stuff? They resorted to this business because their usual flow of money that they get for killing criminals has stopped because Alvin became mayor.... They have become protectors of the same people they were killing years ago.. A. Lopez has become a haven of crime, but have you ever heard of anyone there being killed by a Vigilante?? HEHEHE All you need is to talk to a seasoned LEO to confirm what I have posted...

As to whether I agree with hitmen killing criminals, I dont give a damn.. People need a living too as I refer to these Vigilantes/hitmen.

Want to fight crime?? SHOOT BACK... Dont be a victim....

[naz]

@herzabarJR
nice one... :mrgreen:

[MelodyMan]

dude, you're talking about OTHER COUNTRIES here.. cebu is not america, europe, or middle east.. majority of the people in cebu are CATHOLICS.. ako im a catholic.. but honestly speaking, i don't practice my being catholic anymore.. no offense to others, but catholic man kaha mo and even some of you guys are VERY active on RC religion, mao ba na gtudlo sa atong simbahan?

Have you been to Mindanao? Or have you heard stories about war between tribes(muslim and natives) sa North of Luzon and sa Mindanao. Pilipinas gihapon na bai! Pero it's practiced. People kill themselves basta religion, land and culture ang awayan. Ang killings sad by these vigilantes sa ni occur sa different cities in the country. And by the way, I could have stressed more on 'FIGHT FIRE WITH FIRE'. Just like herzabarJR's "Want to fight crime?? SHOOT BACK... Dont be a victim.... "


Just like everyone else, at first I was against this death squad. Pero gikapoy nako uy! Especially nga naa ko relatives and friends na victim aning mga gangsters, pushers & snatchers nga ni dunggab jud! Maka sulay ra niya mo!!!

On the other hand, I do agree with the others nga cradle of christianity gud unta! sakto ba? so dapat less jud unta ang crimes and that we learn to forgive.


ok sad nang kay herzabarJR.

"most of these little fishy operates on their own."
TRUE. But kung kawat, piso man o 1000, kawat gihapon. same ba na ug parusa or mag depende sa amount?