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  1. #151

    [quote=SPRINGFIELD_XD_40;7805674]
    Quote Originally Posted by elars View Post

    Dili siya BIAS if the only time mo sulti ka is ang imohang SIBERIAN HUSKY is not dangerous per se relating to the link or source . You can never speak in behalf of other SIBERIAN HUSKY period .

    You are very certain na tanan SIBERIAN HUSKY buotan nor walay gi cause na incident ngano mahimo silang DANGEROUS . Like I said unless lage dili accurate ang link but then I would believe in the links since 3 to 4 man to kabuok sharing similar rankings and contents of different websites .

    Ive owned past and present breeds from ROTTWIELERS , LABRADORS , OLD ENGLISH SHEEPDOGS , SHIBA INU'S , GERMAN SHEPERDS , MALTESE , POMERANIAN , SHI TZUS , LHASA APSOS ... I can definitely speak in behalf of them regarding temperament , health , attitude , lifestyle etc but the moment mo speak ta in behalf sa breed that would be BIAS na .

    Anyways ni kalma na man ang thread and probably everyone got already the TS point why the thread existed , this sould just move on being proactive and providing constructive cristicisms instead of destructive opinions .

    By the way ... any chance naay naka buhi na ug HYBRID WOLF diri sa Cebu ? Local borns na ba or imported ? or it will nevr find its way here since di man ni sila ma papered unless ipalusot jud ?
    ang amo mga tubag bai basi na sa amo kasinati-an sa amo mga huskies isip nanag-iya ani na breed... basi lang sa title ani na thread most likely a husky owner or breeder ra ang kasagaran mo post diri. sa uban na admirers lang sa huskies dili pa owners na mo post,i igo raman pud na sila nagpadayag sa ila pagkahibong susama sa TS nano ingon ana ang result sa inyong gi-ingon na survey. pero katong mga husky owners all their answers were specific base on their actual experience with the breed. they never answered base on other people experience but their own.

    ang sipyat sa uban na post ani na thread the title is clearly a personal question directed to people who own or previously owned huskies. pero some post here ila e-compare to surveys conducted sa laing nasud thus making it a general question already.

    personally i never said that all huskies in the world are like my huskies. owners here had always stretchout out that the temperament of the dog mostly depend on how dog owners take care and train their dogs. but on the other hand also we admit that dili pud na sila perfect they are still a dog.

  2. #152
    Quote Originally Posted by Badme View Post
    Wow its also my dream to see a Wolf jud in person...or even mixed....interested sad ko if naaynag buhi kaymo tan-aw jud ko og mohikap? hehehehe bitaw.....naa kaha diri Cebu noh? basin naa nag hilom hilom lang hahaha...ipagawas nana ninyo oi..hehehe

    Just a comment from the movie "Living with Wolves" i just saw yesterday, I noticed that the Dutchers were not treating the wolves as "pets." Although they assigned individual names to each, respectively... the wolves didn't even bother being called by names. I also noticed how they behave when they come closer to the pack. When they visit, they are there as though they're not there...not disrupting the ambiance, environment. It was them, humans, who made the effort to adapt to the wolves' behavior and not the other way around, or less likely.

    Compared to the study made by Hungary scientists, as presented in BBC; the scientists' attempt to domesticate the wolves were to no avail, and ended up returning the wolves to their habitat.

    In both cases, we can make the wolves as affectionate as the dogs. But wolves will always remain wolves. Are dogs a domesticated form of wolves? Studies have yet to make a conclusion as to the link between the two.
    Last edited by thethird79; 07-30-2010 at 12:48 PM.

  3. #153
    Quote Originally Posted by kenshee View Post

    ang amo mga tubag bai basi na sa amo kasinati-an sa amo mga huskies isip nanag-iya ani na breed... basi lang sa title ani na thread most likely a husky owner or breeder ra ang kasagaran mo post diri. sa uban na admirers lang sa huskies dili pa owners na mo post,i igo raman pud na sila nagpadayag sa ila pagkahibong susama sa TS nano ingon ana ang result sa inyong gi-ingon na survey. pero katong mga husky owners all their answers were specific base on their actual experience with the breed. they never answered base on other people experience but their own.

    ang sipyat sa uban na post ani na thread the title is clearly a personal question directed to people who own or previously owned huskies. pero some post here ila e-compare to surveys conducted sa laing nasud thus making it a general question already.


    personally i never said that all huskies in the world are like my huskies. owners here had always stretchout out that the temperament of the dog mostly depend on how dog owners take care and train their dogs. but on the other hand also we admit that dili pud na sila perfect they are still a dog.

    When I was a student, and my professor would expect us to answer an affirmative.. and yet I would give him a big "No," my answer would still get a good score compared to the expected "Yes" answer.

    Whether you side either as an atheist or a theist, that really doesn't matter. What really matters is how you presented your ideas, how logical they are, etc. I really don't care what our answers here as long as they are sound, and shows gentleness like your huskies. I somehow doubt your description of your huskies as gentle is not the same as the ones in the dictionaries.

    But as you see, there are some of us here whose answers are as rude as the most dangerous dogs. I think that explains well my point.

    Again you can just simply say...if you own million huskies, "our huskies are very gentle." Kaysa mo ingon, "Pataka lang na sila, shame on them, ignorant... or unsa ba na nga gipanggamit nga word." You are attacking/barking a person and not the subject issue.

    I really have a feeling that some of us here requires more domestication than wolves.

    Quote Originally Posted by elars View Post
    Sir think dili man cguro BIAS if e defend ang breed kay naa mi. Kinsa diay modefend sa ila kaugalingon ang dog/breed? Dba taw man sad ang nagsuwat anang mga list so taw sa sad ang makdefend base sa experiences kato dog owners. Unsa nato pagcorrect ang misconcepted na dog/breed if u would not correct it or dili ka motingog so meaning forever nga misconcepted ang dog kay wla gicorrect. Gihimo man na cguro ang list base sad sa experiences. So Y man maBIAS if ang experiences sad sa mga dog owners isulti.Think dili man cguro na BIAS

    And by the way... there's no need to be defensive on biases. Everyone has a bias. The moment one starts to talk about something... he is already making a bias. Say, "She is pretty." That is already bias. The important thing is you know how to use and place your biases properly. There is always bias and we can never deny it.
    Last edited by thethird79; 07-30-2010 at 12:56 PM.

  4. #154
    Quote Originally Posted by lyledu View Post
    heheh! btaw bai, mahadlok ko magbuhi ana coz ang akong mga iro, gina pet man gud sa mga tao.. and, i know nga ang chow, naa gyd times nga unpredictable siya. so mao na mahadlok ko makasala.. its better to be safe than sorry lang. ^^ also, di pud ko mo ingon nga expert ko sa doggies, in which, naa ra tawn ko sa average, or maybe beginner pa gani ko.. ^^
    one more thing about chows, naay book in ayala (fully booked, HEHE! FREE READING KO) ang chow2x mao'y DIRECT descendant gyd sa wolf. =) that explains y delikado siya. =)
    hehehe...mao bai sakto2x, unpredictable bitaw sad ni ang chow especially ang male...naa gud diri usa sa cebu nga mobalibad jud ang shooter kung kana nga chow2x stud ang gamiton...mahadlok jud ang kasagaran shooter ana nga chow...i wud rather not mention d name sa chow2x lang.hehe...basta aggressive jud kuno siya kaayo.hehe...........fortunate lang siguro kaayo ko ani akong female chow kay pirti jud buotana, bisan unsaon pa nimo pag kumot.hehe...according to her groomer gud, siya ra kuno sa tanan diri cebu iya nasugatan nga pirti kabuotan...ang uban chow kay iya pa mn butangan elizabeth collar kay naa mn hints nga mo hambat,..kani ako bisan giunsa pa siya ug shave, bisan on her most sensitive part wala ra jud siya paki.hehehe..

  5. #155
    [QUOTE=kenshee;7808232]
    Quote Originally Posted by SPRINGFIELD_XD_40 View Post

    ang amo mga tubag bai basi na sa amo kasinati-an sa amo mga huskies isip nanag-iya ani na breed... basi lang sa title ani na thread most likely a husky owner or breeder ra ang kasagaran mo post diri. sa uban na admirers lang sa huskies dili pa owners na mo post,i igo raman pud na sila nagpadayag sa ila pagkahibong susama sa TS nano ingon ana ang result sa inyong gi-ingon na survey. pero katong mga husky owners all their answers were specific base on their actual experience with the breed. they never answered base on other people experience but their own.

    ang sipyat sa uban na post ani na thread the title is clearly a personal question directed to people who own or previously owned huskies. pero some post here ila e-compare to surveys conducted sa laing nasud thus making it a general question already.

    personally i never said that all huskies in the world are like my huskies. owners here had always stretchout out that the temperament of the dog mostly depend on how dog owners take care and train their dogs. but on the other hand also we admit that dili pud na sila perfect they are still a dog.
    Tinuod gyud sir,the title and the first question pa lng ni ask na personal experiences of the sibe owners wala niya gispecific ask sa TS if unsa na aspects iya gusto mahibaloan sa sibes regarding ba behavior/factors so more likely amo personal experiences amo masulti. Then later on ni ingon ang TS gusto niya mahibaloan ang Nature and Nurture Theory w/c wala niya gispecify sa iya first question then lisud sad since kay more of nurture theories amo mashare dili ang nature theory nila kay 1st place siberian husky here in Philippines wala sa natural habitat nila and 2nd sibes are not being used as unsa gyud purpose nila to be a working dog/sled dog since and sibes diri sa pinas gbreed as being a pet or for conformation so lisud au ecompare ang nature and nurture theory. Kay sa first and later questions personal experiences na iya ask to husky owners so personal experiences sad ang gitubag since the TS ask for personal experiences. Then later on iya ecompare sa iya nabasahan or nakita from books or sites w/c is a different setting na then dili sad ta maka expect nga ang result did2 sa lain nasud mapareha sa atoa diri sa pinas since dogs are very gud on adaptation.

  6. #156
    Quote Originally Posted by thethird79 View Post
    Just a comment from the movie "Living with Wolves" i just saw yesterday, I noticed that the Dutchers were not treating the wolves as "pets." Although they assigned individual names to each, respectively... the wolves didn't even bother being called by names. I also noticed how they behave when they come closer to the pack. When they visit, they are there as though they're not there...not disrupting the ambiance, environment. It was them, humans, who made the effort to adapt to the wolves' behavior and not the other way around, or less likely.

    Compared to the study made by Hungary scientists, as presented in BBC; the scientists' attempt to domesticate the wolves were to no avail, and ended up returning the wolves to their habitat.

    In both cases, we can make the wolves as affectionate as the dogs. But wolves will always remain wolves. Are dogs a domesticated form of wolves? Studies have yet to make a conclusion as to the link between the two.

    Yup I agree with your comment regarding "Living with Wolves" thats why I told you na gi welcome sila sa Wolf as part of the pack.......kay sa gawas naa may nag buhi og wolfs as a pet....pero I just dont know if unsa sad ang kina iya nila.....same thing ra guro sa nag buhi og tiger sa house like Chavet hehehe....BTW unsay title atong imong gi ingon na Hungary scientist na documentary kay nahan sad ko mo tan-aw kay basin ma download lang..

  7. #157
    Quote Originally Posted by Badme View Post
    Yup I agree with your comment regarding "Living with Wolves" thats why I told you na gi welcome sila sa Wolf as part of the pack.......kay sa gawas naa may nag buhi og wolfs as a pet....pero I just dont know if unsa sad ang kina iya nila.....same thing ra guro sa nag buhi og tiger sa house like Chavet hehehe....BTW unsay title atong imong gi ingon na Hungary scientist na documentary kay nahan sad ko mo tan-aw kay basin ma download lang..
    The Secret Life of the Dog

  8. #158
    Quote Originally Posted by elars View Post
    Then later on ni ingon ang TS gusto niya mahibaloan ang Nature and Nurture Theory w/c wala niya gispecify sa iya first question. Kay sa first question personal experiences na iya ask.
    The question simply states "How dangerous is your Husky? If you would want to share about husky behaviors from your experience, fine; so as to support your claim whether your husky is dangerous or not.

    Quote Originally Posted by elars View Post
    ...... Then your asking if how dangerous? Is it dangerous bah mau na question? Maybe u had rephrase wat u ask if its true that this breed are dangerous to human and other dogs rather than generalizing that this breed to be dangerous.
    Quote Originally Posted by elars View Post
    ur not asking but rather making a generalization/statement that siberian husky is dangerous to humans base sa imo questions.
    Earlier you said my question was a generalization... and now you said personal experience. i really don't know what's in your mind but the question is a personal question, very obviously. No need to elaborate. I hope your getting to see it now...

    Quote Originally Posted by elars View Post
    Tinuod gyud sir,the title and the first question pa lng ni ask na personal experiences of the sibe owners wala niya gispecific ask sa TS if unsa na aspects iya gusto mahibaloan sa sibes regarding ba behavior/factors so more likely amo personal experiences amo masulti.Kay sa first question personal experiences na iya ask.
    And also I never said i wanted to know about nature/nurture theory. In fact i was the one introducing it; at least for us to have some gauge in looking at the temperaments and/or factors why such breed is such and such.
    Last edited by thethird79; 07-30-2010 at 02:17 PM.

  9. #159
    "Guys... just wanna know how dangerous your huskies are, i mean to humans...to visitors... people at the park when you're having your dogwalk."

    Kani man gud na question ur asking for personal experiences namo mga sibe owner

    "i was actually looking for an explanation as to why huskies are on the top list contrary to what people are saying about them"

    Maglisud mi hatag nmo explanation kung ngano ang sibes naa sa list kay 1st place dili kami ang nagconduct sa research, 2nd the setting sa nahitabo ang attacks wala diri sa pilipinas so lisud sad ta ask explanation, Kami diri dili mga animal/dog behaviorist or dog psycholigist para makahatag nmo sa imo gusto na explanation kay kami mga sibe owners lng. Ang makahatag nmo explanation kay ang mga researcher nga nagconduct sa research kay kami wla mi kahibalo unsa factors and criteria gigamit sa mga researcher. Lisud sad mi hatag amo experiences/explanation kay wala pami incident nga amo sibes ni attack ug person.

  10. #160
    Quote Originally Posted by elars View Post
    Maglisud mi hatag nmo explanation kung ngano ang sibes naa sa list kay 1st place dili kami ang nagconduct sa research, 2nd the setting sa nahitabo ang attacks wala diri sa pilipinas so lisud sad ta ask explanation, Kami diri dili mga animal/dog behaviorist or dog psycholigist para makahatag nmo sa imo gusto na explanation kay kami mga sibe owners lng. Ang makahatag nmo explanation kay ang mga researcher nga nagconduct sa research kay kami wla mi kahibalo unsa factors and criteria gigamit sa mga researcher. Lisud sad mi hatag amo experiences/explanation kay wala pami incident nga amo sibes ni attack ug person.
    Okay ra sir. Hasta ang gahimo/gaconduct sa list gani ala may klaro nga explanation...although they maybe using numbers. But it's worth a try that we made some attempts in this thread as to how huskies have made it into the list, at least on our part. At least nagpaka bana gyud ta...

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