Rumor: Palace gives out money to the church.... creepy...

[Freeza]

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Haven't found any link yet from local newspapers' websites. But I heard from a radio station ganiha nga some CBCP priests reportedly admit nga naay MOA ang palace sa ilaha nga gi offer. Ang naa daw didto kay the palace will give money to those nga mo sign pero dapat dili daw mo support sa impeachment fad karon....

If this is true.... bilib nalang jud ko sa garapalan sa politika.... maski ang simbahan ilang i-among man nuon.... hahay....

nah to far fetch if its implying bribery in the connection of impeachment the bishops the church are free to receive donations from anybody or governments or corporations they dont have to ask why, whom or where
cause in the end they will use it for the good, for the free social works ..etc..

[cerebus]

nah to far fetch if its implying bribery in the connection of impeachment the bishops the church are free to receive donations from anybody or governments or corporations they dont have to ask why, whom or where
cause in the end they will use it for the good, for the free social works ..etc..

the government should not channel fund to the church for any reason. hell, they don't even pay taxes. we got government agencies that could used those money liked dswd. and the timing of donation or moa sucks.

[cerebus]

Sadly GMA allies would not allow constitutional process to proceed in search for truth. The only option left would be...you're right! People power.

Add to this very unpleasant development that a Hello Garci general is appointed as Chief of the AFP. Oh boy, I could just imagine the "revulsion" within the AFP. Its an arrogant and shamelss demonstration that cheating in the election pays. Binaboy na talaga ang mga pinag aralan sa PMA. Tsk. Pity

The condition for another people power sucks. it's more like a power-grab (civilian) or coup (military). i don't want to live in a country run by the civilian who were self-centered or by military who wants to turn our country into another burma.

general esperon is a good soldier and a gentleman. he stand fast with the government during the powergrab/coup (that you wanted) attempt last february.

and lacking a vote to impeach is not mere technicality. it's the law.

[FK]

and who's bribing who?..does the envelope contains any writen statement for an exchange of favor or influence? =)

hehehe trying to be technical... yeah excuses.

[FK]

The condition for another people power sucks. it's more like a power-grab (civilian) or coup (military). i don't want to live in a country run by the civilian who were self-centered or by military who wants to turn our country into another burma.

general esperon is a good soldier and a gentleman. he stand fast with the government during the powergrab/coup (that you wanted) attempt last february.

so i would say i will consider all EDSA events as power grab? what makes it any different anyway?

and lacking a vote to impeach is not mere technicality. it's the law.

yeah... dayon ngano man to sa una lagi pag turn down nga i-open ang envelope, suko man au sila(r u included)

[pridi]

well... one thing is probable... nga the philippines is ruled by a chief liar... and what would be the consequence of this? from any high ranking official down to the simplest peasant would simply say,

"nganong hadlok man ta manikas? presidente man gani nato maoy nag una2x?"

[istoryador]

http://newsinfo.inq7.net/inquirerhea...rticle_id=9688

Palace gave ‘victory’ dinner for bishops – CBCP source

Tags religious affairs usec as host

MALACAÑANG arranged what appeared to be a victory dinner for prelates sympathetic to President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo after the Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines (CBCP) decided to stay away from fresh efforts to impeach her, the Inquirer learned yesterday.

A CBCP source, who did not wish to be named for fear of compromising his position in the Church hierarchy, said the affair was arranged by Fatima “Nena” Valdes, undersecretary for religious affairs. The source described the dinner party as a “reward.”

The reported emergence of Valdes in the apparent Palace effort to influence the outcome of the CBCP plenary over the weekend appeared to contradict claims by pro-Arroyo congressmen that the reports were “the devil’s handiwork ... meant to discredit not only the Palace but also the Church.”

The Inquirer attempted but failed to get a comment from Valdes, who holds office in Malacañang.

In the pastoral statement issued on Monday, the CBCP said it was “not inclined at the present moment to favor the impeachment process as a means of establishing the truth” on whether Ms Arroyo manipulated the 2004 vote. Critics have denounced the CBCP position as vague and ambivalent.

Valdes, together with a certain “Attorney Adriano” and their staff, was also behind the reported distribution of envelopes containing cash to bishops during their weeklong retreat and plenary.

Valdes signed the letter offering cheap rice and low-cost medicines to some of the poorest dioceses in the country incidentally headed by known anti-Arroyo bishops.

This letter, a copy of which was obtained by the Inquirer, was distributed to dioceses earlier this year.

The Inquirer source in the CBCP said Undersecretary Valdes had arranged the dinner on Sunday upon the conclusion of the bishops’ plenary at a restaurant near where they had met at the Pope Pius XII Catholic Center on United Nations Avenue in Manila.

Inquirer sources earlier reported that Malacañang had offered relief aid for Church projects for the poor as they gathered in Manila for their weekend plenary and handed out envelopes to the bishops containing P15,000 to P30,000.

Some of the bishops reportedly returned the envelopes. Other prelates saw nothing wrong in Malacañang offers of relief aid to the poor as they prepared to sit down and discuss a stand on the worst political crisis to hit the 5-year-old Arroyo administration.

[istoryador]

The cat is out of the bag. It is the same old elitist-clerico conspiracy to perpetuate socio-economic-political control in the hands of the rich. The poor will remain stunted, with so-called top priority pro-poor projects being virtual lip service. Big business will provide the wherewithal (1) to serve the comfort needs of the CBCP, and (2) to help facilitate the measures GMA needs to take in order to survive. The tyrant’s monolith shall keep its doors open to reward the hungry clerics and the crème of business and industry with whatever they need to spur business expansions and sustain the elitists’ position as the ruling class.

[baron]

CBCP's resolution is very clear, they will only support the Impeachment only when it's guided by motive of geniune concern for the common good of the people.

Quite unlikely, this cannot be realized by the opposition and continue to smear the image of the administration and most especially, these bishops. Now that they have not persuaded them to support their self- serving political acts.

Now, they are questioning even the rightful way of stating how this unending political noise can be put to a stop.

[iloveyou4ever]

Haven't found any link yet from local newspapers' websites. But I heard from a radio station ganiha nga some CBCP priests reportedly admit nga naay MOA ang palace sa ilaha nga gi offer. Ang naa daw didto kay the palace will give money to those nga mo sign pero dapat dili daw mo support sa impeachment fad karon....

If this is true.... bilib nalang jud ko sa garapalan sa politika.... maski ang simbahan ilang i-among man nuon.... hahay....

Im not surprise bai. Nangayo man gani sila ug donations even to the smallest peso. Kana pa kaha nga milyones na?