MERGED: Vigilantism and related issues

[digitalsuperman]

ok pud kaayo nanag CDS(Cebu Death Squad)...
dili man gani sila maluoy sa ilang gitulis or gi-snatch or gikawatan..dapat hutdon pud na sila... payts..

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

As long as there is no CHRONIC CRIMINAL , there will be no VIGILANTE .

[mannyamador]

Why ? It could be a stepping stone to a bigger picture for future purposes . Look at the crime rate of Cebu now .

So you ARE implying vigilanteism is a good thing then! And here's where my point comes in. If you can't even identify that the vigilantes are the ones engaging in the acts, then how can you even claim that any good comes from them?

Tell me now, what part of that simple logical process can't you comprehend?!!!

By the way, YOU said vigilanteism is an option for the jsutice system, whether vigilanteism is good or bad. And I precisely pointed out that you were wrong because something bad should not be an option for a justice system. It has to be somethign good to be a viable option for a justice system (you do know what justice means, right?). So it is incumbent on you to prove that vigilantiesim is good. But seeing how you can't even seem to grasp the most basic logical concepts, I doubt you weill ever come up with anything. If only you would try to THINK instead of trying to get personal and shooting your mouth off... but perhaps I'm expecting too much from you. Oh well...

Only the ANTI VIGILANTES says the VIGILANTE SYSTEM is bad . So dont generalize it Mr Manny Amador otherwise you will be barking at the wrong tree again.

Uh, in case you haven't figured it out yet, that's why they are ANTI-vigilante: because they think it's bad. Conversely, the pro-vigilantes think vigilanteism is good. Now do you really think belaboring the obvious makes you look more intelligent? Good grief!

Yes .. I know also that this statement of yours is very elementary in nature considering your age

Considering you can't even comprehend it, that says even more about your mental maturity!

As long as there is no CHRONIC CRIMINAL , there will be no VIGILANTE .

As long as there are *****s who think vigilantes are good, the EXCUSES for killing remain, and the killing will naturally continue!

[mannyamador]

Even innocent persons being executed: police
http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb...ed.police.html

The vigilantes hit again Thursday night, killing a 23-year-old man who was just standing in front of the shop he was working for along M. J
Cuenco Ave., Cebu City.

Homicide Section Chief Mario Monilar admitted that the attack was vigilante-style; the only difference from other incidents was that the
killer wore a bull cap, not a ski mask.

Monilar also noted that vigilante-style killing was used to execute hardened criminals in the past but lately, even those without criminal
records have become victims.

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[cyril-crusade]

hehe ok lang kung mutants sad na cla like x-men

[cerebus]

As long as there are *****s who think vigilantes are good, the EXCUSES for killing remain, and the killing will naturally continue!

i think that's harsh. we don't have to resort to name calling if you don't want somebody's position. you don't have to stoop to anyone's level.

[cerebus]

Even innocent persons being executed: police
http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb...ed.police.html

The vigilantes hit again Thursday night, killing a 23-year-old man who was just standing in front of the shop he was working for along M. J
Cuenco Ave., Cebu City.

Homicide Section Chief Mario Monilar admitted that the attack was vigilante-style; the only difference from other incidents was that the
killer wore a bull cap, not a ski mask.

Monilar also noted that vigilante-style killing was used to execute hardened criminals in the past but lately, even those without criminal
records have become victims.

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wah! sensationalized title. the title was written in that way to sell more papers. the police were not certain it's vigilante killing.

[mannyamador]

wah! sensationalized title. the title was written in that way to sell more papers. the police were not certain it's vigilante killing.

Like I've pointed out before, if we follow that logic then we cannot claim any beneficial effects from the vigilantes either since they cannot be identified. But the fact remains that murdering people in the streets is just plain wrong.

[astroboyreal]

mas maayo na.ay vigilante sa cebu para mawala nang mga sagbot sa katilingban na mga holdupper og mga snatcher

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

By the way, YOU said vigilanteism is an option for the jsutice system, whether vigilanteism is good or bad. And I precisely pointed out that you were wrong because something bad should not be an option for a justice system.

Not all the time . You may have pointed it out as wrong because YOU THINK VIGILANTES are bad and not from the general public and the majority . For YOU , its not an OPTION . Misleading people again ?

It has to be somethign good to be a viable option for a justice system (you do know what justice means, right?).

Do you know what is JUSTICE in its purest form of DEFINITION ? Regarding the OPTION , read the reply above LOUDLY and CLEARLY for you to comprehend at least 3 times .

So it is incumbent on you to prove that vigilantiesim is good.

And how did that happen ? Like I said , look at the crime rate of Cebu . This is the logic here , CRIMINALS killing CRIMINALS ... and your wonderful and smart logic says that you want CRIMINALS kill INNOCENT people .

But seeing how you can't even seem to grasp the most basic logical concepts, I doubt you weill ever come up with anything. If only you would try to THINK instead of trying to get personal and shooting your mouth off... but perhaps I'm expecting too much from you. Oh well...

Speaking for yourself eh ? I thought you are smarter than that MR MANNY AMADOR .... tsk tsk tsk .

Uh, in case you haven't figured it out yet, that's why they are ANTI-vigilante: because they think it's bad. Conversely, the pro-vigilantes think vigilanteism is good. Now do you really think belaboring the obvious makes you look more intelligent? Good grief!

LOLZ .... you ended up on LOGIC , COMPREHENSION , CONCEPTS etc .... but you havent included how DUMBFOUNDING it is for PRO VIGILANTE to say that VIGILANTES are bad . LOLZ !!

Considering you can't even comprehend it, that says even more about your mental maturity!

Puso mo lolo ..... dental floss lang ang kinakapitan niyan . LOLZ !

As long as there are *****S who think vigilantes are good, the EXCUSES for killing remain, and the killing will naturally continue!

As long as there are people who cant give an REALISTIC OPTION for a better JUSTICE system ... they all resort to AD HOMINEM . LOLZ !! Hahahaha

Even innocent persons being executed: police

LOLZ .... at the point of your age , you should be able to differentiate what is VIGILANTE STYLE and VIGILANTES . Nice try mister MANNY AMADOR .