Should Abortion Be Allowed to Rape And Incest Victims?

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

@FAQ ...

Alangan man ug you refer the word HYPOCRITES sa mga ni participate diri na PRO ABORTION . Dili na ASSUMNING dong ... you call that COMMONSENSE .

Please dont insult your level of intelligence puslan man na mo apil2 ka sa diskusuon , pa BAKA BAKA ug EMBRYO EMBRYO pa ka FAQ pastilan !

If that is the case , Id rather be called HYPOCRITE than DUMB and no , that is not AD HOMINEM , I am just be realistic here . Anyhoo , do you know what is AD HOMINEM ??

@CHAD ...

people tend to put more emphasis on the baby's life rather than the mother. here's another scenario---what if the mother's life is in danger while on pregnancy.... here's the dilemma: save the baby and let the mother die---or save the mother and let the baby die. which one would you choose?

I already gave my stand on this , if the baby has to go to save the mother , then so be it but in the case of RAPE VICTIMS , what if HEALTHY ang mother and capable of delivering it ? See the difference papi .

[FAQ]

Alangan man ug you refer the word HYPOCRITES sa mga ni participate diri na PRO ABORTION . Dili na ASSUMNING dong ... you call that COMMONSENSE .

Please dont insult your level of intelligence puslan man na mo apil2 ka sa diskusuon , pa BAKA BAKA ug EMBRYO EMBRYO pa ka FAQ pastilan !

If that is the case , Id rather be called HYPOCRITE than DUMB and no , that is not AD HOMINEM , I am just be realistic here .

Not all people are in favor of your opinion, you are trying to force people to believe ABORTION IS WRONG and attacking them personally so you could successfully brainwash them to falsehood and wrong information -- like priests always do (no wonder you once went to a seminary).

You'd rather be called HYPOCRITE than DUMB? I think you are both, "I'm just being realistic here".

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

Not all people are in favor of your opinion, you are trying to force people to believe ABORTION IS WRONG and attacking them personally so you could successfully brainwash them to falsehood and wrong information -- like priests always do (no wonder you once went to a seminary).

Of course not all people are in favor of my opinion because I am PRO LIFE and some are PRO ABORTION . Unsay lisod sabton ? I am NOT shoving it down to anyones throat either , mo enter the dragon gani ka , ayaw gub-a ang tubay sama sa gibuhat nimo karon .

I didnt brainwash anyone nor feed false information . There is no such thing as information here since these are all IDEAS out of OPINIONS hence there is no right nor wrong but just what you believed in . Unsay labot kung naka suway ko ug seminaryo ? Hahahaha unsay koneksyon ?

You'd rather be called HYPOCRITE than DUMB? I think you are both, "I'm just being realistic here".

Read in between the lines , I already and clearly emphasized who is the HYPOCRITE and who is the DUMB unless again you cant comprehend because all you knew was about the HISTORY of the CHURCH . Your being realistic does not relate to anything because in the first place you are lost . You use the word AD HOMINEM , HYPOCRITE and BRAINWASH in the wrong context .

HUmana sa Rizal 17 nimo if that is the case before you engage in discussions here na style niom na wala diri ug wala didto , PASTILAN ka for the NTH time !!

[Hotmomma]

Abi gud ninyo boys, sa atoa gud ang mga baye wa man jud power! bisan na sa panahon karon nga giingon nila nga Millinium age, ang mga baye sa atoa, labi na ang mga relihiyoso nga pamilya, ang ma babaye, way power. Nganong maka ingon ko ana? kay i was raised that way back home. Maka ingon ko usahay nga "i was born in the wrong country" kay i am alreay very liberated bisan pa man sa ka higpit sa akong mga ginikanan (ag sa bata pa ko, karon guwang na) .

We women (back home) has no right to fight for our rights and we are not allowed to fight . "Naandan" or costumary sa mga baye mo sunod ra sa mando (submisssive) mao na nga ug ma rape ming mga baye sa Pinas, OK ra! keep the baby.

di sad ko maka blame sa ubang lalaki diri who defended the pro life kay mao lagi na ang ilang naandan nga sala ang pag abort sa bata bisan pa man unsa ka sakit sa gibati sa mga babaye.

If that would happen to my daughter (kay my ex is a catholic) might oppose of abortion (i really dont know) if my daughter would beg, do you think as a mother will allow mu daughter to suffer for the rest of her life? ENSE GUIDA, larga jud ko sa doctor for the procedure.

Kon anak pa na ni Bowee nga nag pakiluoy, i dont know what he would feel.

[Hotmomma]

here's another scenario---what if the mother's life is in danger while on pregnancy.... here's the dilemma: save the baby and let the mother die---or save the mother and let the baby die. which one would you choose?

that happen to my step daughter diri Chad, she has a pulmonary hypertension (rare illness) ang got pregnant (accident sa ija bana wa ka pogung ) naburos ako step daughter. Her doctor terminated the baby with of course with parent's concents.

nga doctors diri have to save the mothers than the fetus. and its part of their practice.

[FAQ]

Just the same as you, you strongly defend your stand, would that be considered as brainwashing too

.. not getting personal or anything, but, you're still new to a forum in general and how things are being dealt here in istorya.net None of us are right and none of us are wrong. We are just airing out our beliefs and our perception on issues.

.. just look at how me and chad and springfield discuss thing, spring and I have different points of view, but we still respect each's opinion.

Oh, so I guess it's all about how long you've been here to understand how things goes in this forum. I know bro, I know your tag teaming with SPRINGFIELD because you don't want to be victimized by his infamous low-blow.

So I guess you're calling this "respecting each opinion":

^^^

Lol ... why dont we start on you since we are OVERPOPULATED . You are nothing different or special compared to those UNWANTED babies .

Of course not all people are in favor of my opinion because I am PRO LIFE and some are PRO ABORTION . Unsay lisod sabton ? I am NOT shoving it down to anyones throat either , mo enter the dragon gani ka , ayaw gub-a ang tubay sama sa gibuhat nimo karon .

Wow, you're accusing me of causing maximum disruption from someone who REALLY started it. LOLZ.. Look at the last few threads SPRINGFIELD. You troll.

So ironic you're a "PRO-LIFE" yet you're very fond of guns and a huge fan of 2nd Amendment.

Your being realistic does not relate to anything because in the first place you are lost . You use the word AD HOMINEM , HYPOCRITE and BRAINWASH in the wrong context .

HUmana sa Rizal 17 nimo if that is the case before you engage in discussions here na style niom na wala diri ug wala didto , PASTILAN ka for the NTH time !!

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YOU'RE SUCH A FAIL.

[nirdle_phogi]

wala pud tawn sala ang bata. malooy.

[psyrille_alphatrix]

.. bwahahahaha. tinuod gyud na PAPI. naka suyaw ko ana, kulata ko sa ako mama. pero wala ko g.dagmalan. simple ra kau. g.ing.nan ra ko. WA KO KAILA NIMO. sakita lagi sa feeling. And i was 19 or 20 years old that time.

.. but back on the issue, i find it funny that we - THE MEN, are strongly arguing about this issue. We might have forgotten that during rape, it is us men that is the RAPIST. hehehe. We are not the one's directly affected. hehehe. It is the women that are affected, but i'm just wondering to why there ain't no woman here defending their right or having their say about this

na amaze man ko ug basa sa inyong mga post gud mao wala nalang ko maka-post... hehehe sakto jud kaau ka when you say in the act of rape kamo man lalake ang rapist... it's very entertaining getting feedback from men gikan pa atong kang bowee, difference sa pro-choice ug pro-life nga views...

ayaw sad mo pag-away ui, coz going back to the main question: Should Abortion Be Allowed to Rape And Incest Victims?

i think it's a question of legality... So given allowed sa balaod, it's to safeguard the welfare of the woman who was raped... Dili man pasabot mucomply ta sa balaod.. (pakapin: whether abortion is legalized or not, people are still practicing it) Then diha na dayon musulod ang follow up question ni hotmomma "If you get raped (and got pregnant) would you conceive or terminate the fetus?"

If I were to answer this question, di man jud lalim to say yes or no...and the answer would greatly depend on the situation that I am in...

What if I'm just a 13 yr old high school student struggling to overcome the woes of puberty, then mabuntis pa jud, not even mature enough to make stable decisions and judgments, nor support self financially. May unta kung ang mga tao around niya madawat dayon unsay nahitabo, but in most cases dili baya jud... 9 months is not enough to cope with the trauma of rape and it's not enough time para madawat ang fruit sa usa ka act nga wala gustoha...

Then what if I'm a grown woman who is financially stable, well-educated and fully equipped in life but was raped? Of course I would think what coulv'e lead to such act, was I predisposing myself to becoming a victim? Was there a way of preventing it? etc. etc. Seek counseling, seek rehab, think things through...Then I would consider ethics in weighing my decision for both of us, myself and the baby. Loving is not a question, coz para nako love can be learned and nurtured.. Pero what about long term setbacks like ang coping sa child? example: unsaon man nako pag-explain sa bata kung kinsa iyang papa? what if accepted nako siya pero sa uban tao dili? how will it affect the child's personal and social growth? Then naa pa sad personal issues nga atubangon, like what if I want to get married and have children in the future?...

haiz di jud kaya lalim... it's not just about being pro-choice or pro-life...

Sorry if taas akong post... This situation varies greatly from one rape victim to another. To sum it all up, it is still our right to decide for ourselves and what to do with the unborn child, and whatever our decision would be, kami man gihapon ang mu atubang sa long term consequences ana... So if it happens to me, I would choose the most appropriate and practical option ana nga time...

[psyrille_alphatrix]

^ mao jud

some people who conceived children made out of love can't help but think about those things man gani kung maalanganin... how much more kung product ra sa rape... so tragic for both mother and child...

[vern]

In topics where the few outspoken drown out the wisdom of the crowd, it is best to put it to a vote ... in this case a poll. You guys will never get anywhere arguing the same tired points. With that said. This thread goes bye bye. I suggest if you wish to continue this debate that someone create one with a poll. At least then we would know where people would stand if it came to actually putting things down in law.