Should Abortion Be Allowed to Rape And Incest Victims?

[bowee]

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it did.. w/ my cousin... and my aunts and uncles we're all supportive of her...

I don't have to mention if it'll happened directly to our family.. because on my sums of inputs here, You would surely guess what I stand for....

[tiny]

i think keeping the baby is better.. abortion is not the answer.

[Hotmomma]

it did.. w/ my cousin... and my aunts and uncles we're all supportive of her...

I don't have to mention if it'll happened directly to our family.. because on my sums of inputs here, You would surely guess what I stand for....

Rape with concent??

[Hotmomma]

.. bwahahahaha. exactly. full of words coz he didnt experienced it yet.


.. hey BOWEE, have you met a girl who has been raped?? or even talked to a rape victim ?? Coz i did, and you could see the effect on them, they barely talk at all, the devastation is very evident. They are like crazy people who lost their mind, they tend to create their own world just to forget and divert themselves from the terrible thing that happened to them.

.. so please, don't utter words in which you've not yet fully comprehend. coz it's quite obvious with the way you talk, using PROVERBS and famous quotations that you don't know much about how unfair life is. And on this particular issue, you dont understand what a rape victim actually feels.

i havent seen a rape victim who hasnt turned crazy-like in the work field that i was at. Others even want to kill themselves. (suicidal) so maybe Bowee want to save the baby and not the mother.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

Let me emphasize again some of the misunderstood circumstances and scenarios :

- ABORTING or KEEPING the UNWANTED CHILD has nothign to do with being a ROMAN CATHOLIC at all . Not even on any religion , cult , society , organization but a personal level of the MORAL and CONSCIENCE .

- GUILT indeed is worst because it is a MENTAL SUFFERING compared to having a PHYSICAL SUFFERING . That is the real score of the CONSEQUENCE I am talking about . Not the literal meaning of being ARRESTED and put to JAIL because of MURDERING an INNOCENT CHILD .

- Perfect crime ? Try to kill someone and we'll see how long you will last .

- If it happens to my family ? Indeed dali ra isulti but it depends , if ma accept ang UNWANTED CHILD then keep it in the family , if not ... it LIVES somewhere else in the midst of those people with big hearts.

- TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCE jud being a RAPE VICTIM . Why add insult to the injury of commiting another issue that will deteriorate more of the well being . 9 months is nothing compared to the lifetime of the " consequence " I am talking about .

- It is easy for us to say here , though its everyones right to opine and it just so happens that I am against ABORTION and some are PRO but then , if you dig the core more deeper , isnt it unfair that here we are being able to post our OPINIONS and the UNWANTED CHILDREN are all down there 6 feet below ? Mao its easy for us because we LIVED . Unsa kaha na gi ABORT pod ta ? Remember that being an UNWANTED CHILD is not only a product of RAPE though the topic is only focusing on RAPE VICTIMS .

[Klave]

Let me emphasize again some of the misunderstood circumstances and scenarios :

- ABORTING or KEEPING the UNWANTED CHILD has nothign to do with being a ROMAN CATHOLIC at all . Not even on any religion , cult , society , organization but a personal level of the MORAL and CONSCIENCE .

- GUILT indeed is worst because it is a MENTAL SUFFERING compared to having a PHYSICAL SUFFERING . That is the real score of the CONSEQUENCE I am talking about . Not the literal meaning of being ARRESTED and put to JAIL because of MURDERING an INNOCENT CHILD .

I think you have a lot more to research about the conscience or the state of being guilty... so please truly confirm that it is embedded sa human brain nga dili ta angay mupatay og tawo. Wala na lay bali ang ubang countries who kill their second borns...Maski na unsaon nimo og ingon nga dili based sa Roman Catholic teachings imong mga principles...sila raman sad gyuy pro-life...It is that idealist attitude that causes any unnecessary suffering. Abortion at least kung naay physical or mental pain...short term ra... Unwanted children will have to suffer their fates usually with their entire lives

- Perfect crime ? Try to kill someone and we'll see how long you will last .

I promise you. If I found someone I hate enough to kill and have enough resources to try to plan out a perfect crime I would do it....GUILT FREE... I already made reference of the many unsolved crimes all around the world so don't tell me it can't be done.

- If it happens to my family ? Indeed dali ra isulti but it depends , if ma accept ang UNWANTED CHILD then keep it in the family , if not ... it LIVES somewhere else in the midst of those people with big hearts.

So meaning imu lang siya gibuhi-buhi para i-abandon lang inig ka human?
I know there are many successful adoptions. But it doesn't change nga daghan gihapon unsuccessful.

- TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCE jud being a RAPE VICTIM . Why add insult to the injury of commiting another issue that will deteriorate more of the well being . 9 months is nothing compared to the lifetime of the " consequence " I am talking about .

- It is easy for us to say here , though its everyones right to opine and it just so happens that I am against ABORTION and some are PRO but then , if you dig the core more deeper , isnt it unfair that here we are being able to post our OPINIONS and the UNWANTED CHILDREN are all down there 6 feet below ? Mao its easy for us because we LIVED . Unsa kaha na gi ABORT pod ta ? Remember that being an UNWANTED CHILD is not only a product of RAPE though the topic is only focusing on RAPE VICTIMS .

For non-rape victims committing abortion without legal/health reasons...they deserve a ligation. They don't deserve children ever.

For incest...the same with non-rape victims committing abortion without legal/health reasons.
Dili man tanan mga anak maabnormal...so dako gyud bitaw chance nga naay abnormality. But kung dili dangerous sa mother or child ang pregnancy, bahalag cyclops...no abortion...fruits of their love mana and they WILL(must) love them however they come out.

For rape victims, I will absolutely respect them for whatever they deem is right. Like I said, it will be sad looking at something that will remind you of a traumatic experience, even for nine months lang. If any government was truly concerned with a rape-victim child, they would have invented something like an artificial womb.

No more unnecessary suffering...that is the point.

I'm not absolutely pro-abortion...i'm just practical

[ethzneuron]

SHAME TO THOSE PRO CHOICE PEOPLE who takes one's life in their own hands.

i just killed 100 , wait..., 200 million lives...mini-MEs.

@abortion, it should be legalized but with gestational time limits.

@topic, a raped woman should have the option to abort the fetus legally. at least, she wont get imprisoned by doing the process. siya pay gi-rape, siya pay mapriso.. lugi amahan ana!

and hey, somebody take care of the woman.. she's got F'ed-up. she is the one with more developed brain, maybe highly developed boob there.. vs. some by-product of lust, just a couple inches taller than what i squirted.. anyway..peace.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

I think you have a lot more to research about the conscience or the state of being guilty... so please truly confirm that it is embedded sa human brain nga dili ta angay mupatay og tawo.

Since when in our right minds na angay ta mo patay ug tao ?

Wala na lay bali ang ubang countries who kill their second borns...Maski na unsaon nimo og ingon nga dili based sa Roman Catholic teachings imong mga principles...sila raman sad gyuy pro-life...It is that idealist attitude that causes any unnecessary suffering. Abortion at least kung naay physical or mental pain...short term ra... Unwanted children will have to suffer their fates usually with their entire lives

Like what countries ? Communist countries ... start dropping names of nations . Ows ? Are you sure na walay ATHEIST na dili PRO LIFE ? How did you know that UNWANTED CHILDREN will have to suffer in their entire lives ? Heck even WANTED CHILDREN suffers .

I promise you. If I found someone I hate enough to kill and have enough resources to try to plan out a perfect crime I would do it....GUILT FREE... I already made reference of the many unsolved crimes all around the world so don't tell me it can't be done.

Like I said there is no perfect crime because you are only referring to the actions but no matter how you hide MENTALLY or PHYSICALLY .... abtan ra gihapon ka . Let me ask you this .... have you killed a person yet ?

Maybe not in this lifetime , literally have you even heard of the FAMILIAL DNA process ? It was in the news that a person was caught after 2 decades of silence and it wasnt even a cat and mouse scenario , accidental lang . Your many UNSOLVED CRIMES doesnt even equate to the more SOLVED CRIMES . Tuldok ra siya .

So meaning imu lang siya gibuhi-buhi para i-abandon lang inig ka human?

Wrong analogy , gi buhi siya para mahatagan nako ug maayong future na di nako kaya ihatag so I will resort to ADOPTION which agencies are readily available if willing lang mo support ang people around the victim who will guide her to the process all the way long from pre birth all the way to the end unless like s auban na rape victim gani ka kay i isalikway naka which is a different story.

I know there are many successful adoptions. But it doesn't change nga daghan gihapon unsuccessful.

Same logic sa lotto , di ka makadaug ug di ka mo pusta even though you know the winning number . Its a process by chance to make it happen compared to shutting it off and doing nothing .

For non-rape victims committing abortion without legal/health reasons...they deserve a ligation. They don't deserve children ever.

LIGATION ? Hehehehe ... that is MURDER in its purest form !! They should be IMPRISONED , mas maka ingon na hinuon ko hala cge mga RAPE VICTIMS pag pili na lang mo ABORT ba or KEEP the UNWANTED CHILD .

For incest...the same with non-rape victims committing abortion without legal/health reasons.
Dili man tanan mga anak maabnormal...so dako gyud bitaw chance nga naay abnormality. But kung dili dangerous sa mother or child ang pregnancy, bahalag cyclops...no abortion...fruits of their love mana and they WILL(must) love them however they come out.

Commiting INCEST in the first place is wrong . Incest occurs during RAPE also or unless you are a HILLBILLY . For health reasons , of course you have to give up one to save one but on LEGALITY ? Unsay mo relate sa LEGALITY and PREGNANCY ?

For rape victims, I will absolutely respect them for whatever they deem is right. Like I said, it will be sad looking at something that will remind you of a traumatic experience, even for nine months lang. If any government was truly concerned with a rape-victim child, they would have invented something like an artificial womb.

After the ABORTION of the UNWANTED CHILD , dont you think the RAPE VICTIM's ordeal is only temporary ? Wether the child was aborted or kept , naa gihapon na ang TRAUMA all the way to the grave maski centenarian na ka . If I decided to keep the child kintahay lang na ako ang na rape and namabdos , I will resort to adoption and vow not to see see the child again but deep in my heart I gave him or her a chance to live he or she deserves . The burden I carry until I die is only that my womanhood was violated rather than I chose to abort the innocent child , the burden I carry is twice the feeling because ako pa na agrabyado , ako pa ang nahimong kriminal .

No more unnecessary suffering...that is the point.

I'm not absolutely pro-abortion...i'm just practical

The only time I will be PRO ABORTION is if the baby needs to go for the mother to live but as long as the mother is healthy and capable of delivering the baby , the baby lives . I know the mother dont deserve to be raped but the baby dont deserve to die also just becase he or she is being UNWANTED .

By the way ... there is a stage in the development of the fetus where you are already considered a HUMAN BEING but why not do the process where in say you are already pregnant but the stage of the fetus has no life yet . Mao na ang akong gi strongly na gi stand ... something like a RAPE VICTIM who is anywhere na mabdos say 3 months pataas , then like sa 6th or 8th month na mo decide ipakuha just because it is an UNWANTED CHILD . I forgot how many days to ang stage of the fetus where in MABDOS na ang girl but the BABY is not really a BABY yet because there is no life there so maski tagudtaguron pa na nimo , its not murder because you didnt take any life at all because simply it has no life yet .

[chad_tukes]

let's stop and think about this for a second:

people are so anti-abortion claiming that life begins at fertilization to nine months. they'll do everything, from cursing to CALLING you a MURDERER just so life can flourish during those nine months and stop abortion. after the baby is born and they grow up, they don't give a shit about them anymore. why? because some of these babies grow up to become soldiers to, yes, you got it right, KILL people. does anybody give a shit about grown ups killing people? NO. not to disrespect soldiers... but let's put this into perspective and let's have some CONSISTENCY here.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

@ CHAD ...

Its the same logic about " if the baby needs to go so the mother will live " nothing is wrong with being a soldier killing people so just people can sleep tightly .

Being an American yourself , you should know what I am talking about unless you just said it for the sake of discussion purposes .. .

By the way , some of these UNWANTED CHILDREN will grow as REAL HEROES who you will never know in your entire life that would probably save you from danger from the very UNWANTED CHILDREN also who chose to become criminals like their fathers .

Now , where are the WANTED CHILDREN ??