Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

[orcgod]

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@orcgod

sige pa ta aneh? =) anyway, tubag nalang ko.


- Gas, dust, utot, abog, whatever you call them. What I am stressing out that these things cannot exist in eternity, that it has an infinite past.

and Did i say Dust and Gas has no beginning?
You wrote:

eternity - definition of eternity by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
Eternity- Time without beginning or end; infinite time.
Again, the idea of an infinite past is logically impossible.


I follow a philosophical argument that also proves logically, it says:
Something cannot come from nothing.

That is why, like other great scientists, I believe that someone beyond the physical world, beyond space and time, an all-powerful Being could have started all things.

You seem to believe on a reason that is logically invalid, I believe in something that is logically valid.
Who is delusional and hallucinating now?


Like how planets, moon, twisters or lightnings are formed, there is a scientific explanation for all that. But all these can be traced back to the the Big Bang, the origin of the universe.
So it doesn't necessarily mean that it needs supernatural intervention for a star to be born, or a planet to spin.


Please check your logic if this is valid. Science DOES NOT talk about God since that is beyond its scope. Its like a sports magazine, it doesn't have to talk about the stock market.
How can you be so sure that there is no God when you can't even prove that something (Dust and Gas) can just exist from nothing?


Big Bang - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Pope Pius XII, declared at the November 22, 1951 opening meeting of the Pontifical Academy of Sciences that the Big Bang theory accorded with the Catholic concept of creation ...

Like I've said, we are not competing each other in terms of science, ONLY aethists think so.
In fact, the Vatican has its science academy with members from different cultures and beliefs. That's how the Church gives respect to science.
Pontifical Academy of Sciences - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



That's what you think.
That's not what other great scientists think.

"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." - Einstein
"The most beautiful system of the sun, planets, and comets, could only proceed from the counsel and dominion on an intelligent and powerful Being." - Isaac Newton
etc, etc, etc...

sige pa sad ta ani?

"Like how planets, moon, twisters or lightnings are formed, there is a scientific explanation for all that. But all these can be traced back to the the Big Bang, the origin of the universe.
So it doesn't necessarily mean that it needs supernatural intervention for a star to be born, or a planet to spin."

You see, If Scientist are still seeing stars being born, it means nobody is creating it, but only space and time, because even right now, at present, there are stars being created.

I thought your GOD already finish making stars, when he whip his magic wand and say "LET THERE BE STARS"?

So nitoo ka Ginoo, at the same time Too sad ka ug BING BANG THEORY? Kung mutoo man gud ka ug GINOO, mutoo sadka ug BIBLIYA?
ikaw maoy ga hallucinate, your confuse mind doesnt know where to stand, either SCIENCE or RELIGION. your fantasy of mixing the two together are signs of Desperation, Hallucination, and Delusion. GOD and BIBLE go along together.

To believe in GOD without BIBLE is confuse, to believe in GOD and SCIENCE is Fantasizing. to believe in GOD, BIBLE and SCIENCE is ready to be transferred in a mental institute.


"Gas, dust, utot, abog, whatever you call them. What I am stressing out that these things cannot exist in eternity, that it has an infinite past"

What your stressing is that your imaginary GOD is the infinite past. If your GOD is the infinite past, asa lagi siya?


"I follow a philosophical argument that also proves logically, it says:
Something cannot come from nothing."

So where do you think Gas and Dust comes from?...your GOD? padung na jud ka mental hospital ani.


"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." - Einstein
"The most beautiful system of the sun, planets, and comets, could only proceed from the counsel and dominion on an intelligent and powerful Being." - Isaac Newton
etc, etc, etc...

No matter how brilliant your mind is, if you cant present proof that a GOD exist, then your DELUSIONAL. This is what they think, not what I think, and not what Richard Dawkins think. It means, its just what they think, and what you think.

And what you think, doesnt help you bring out your GOD's existence.

And what we think, helps people understand clearly how life originates with out HALLUCINATING.

[necrotic freak]

Did Science claim there is NO God?

Only Atheist do..

Atheist is NOT a Scientist..

Poor atheists just riding in the bandwagon of science as their comfort zone.

[orcgod]

Enough said sir. And science was NEVER intended for atheistic expenditure.

Says who? says you? oh, my bad, says GOD?

Science is intended for People who are not crazy, who doesnt have an IMAGINARY FRIEND and who believes in something REAL. Thats what SCIENCE is intended for, and not some GOD Delusional Fanatic.

[joroje]

GOD created all things...the planets, sun, moon...etc...

[necrotic freak]

Says who? says you? oh, my bad, says GOD?

Science is intended for People who are not crazy, who doesnt have an IMAGINARY FRIEND and who believes in something REAL. Thats what SCIENCE is intended for, and not some GOD Delusional Fanatic.

hehehe! Fanatic? look whos talking.

Did science explicitly say that there is NO God? Please quote me one scientist that vocally says that there is no god? Science does not talk about god, remember?

[orcgod]

Did Science claim there is NO God?

Only Atheist do..

Atheist is NOT a Scientist..

Poor atheists just riding in the bandwagon of science as their comfort zone.

Pag ka kindergarten nimo ug reasoning convert. Skwela sa balik.

and did SCIENCE claim there IS GOD? naay supporting doecuments ani? data gathering? trial and error experiments?

Atheist is NOT a Scientist? nganung IS raman, ARE ta tu,haha, maypa mag tu-on ka ug how to make a sentence convert, kay pataka lang ka ug himo sentence.

you know RICHARD DAWKINS?

Clinton Richard Dawkins, FRS, FRSL (born 26 March 1941) is a British ethologist, evolutionary biologist and popular science author. He was formerly Professor for Public Understanding of Science at Oxford and was a fellow of New College, Oxford.[1][2][3][4]

Dawkins came to prominence with his 1976 book The Selfish Gene, which popularised the gene-centred view of evolution and introduced the term meme. In 1982, he introduced into evolutionary biology an influential[5] concept, presented in his book The Extended Phenotype, that the phenotypic effects of a gene are not necessarily limited to an organism's body, but can stretch far into the environment, including the bodies of other organisms.

So your saying ATHEIST (correction) ARE not Scientists? kaon sag daghan saging convert. hahaha

Oh, poor Necrotic_Freak, just trying hard to make a sentence.

[orcgod]

hehehe! Fanatic? look whos talking.

Did science expilcitly said that their is NO God? please qoute me one scientist that vocally said their no god? science do not talk about god, remember?

wahaha, galibog na sa iya question ay. tarunga sa imo spelling and grammar, then I can proceed by answering your question. wahahaha!

[necrotic freak]

^^tubaga nalang gud na ang pangutana. daginuton pajud nang typo ug grammar para diversion tactics. hehe
nadaut na sa redhorse. hahaha

[joroje]

1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
2 Now the earth was [a] formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

3 And God said, "Let there be light," and there was light. 4 God saw that the light was good, and He separated the light from the darkness. 5 God called the light "day," and the darkness he called "night." And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.

6 And God said, "Let there be an expanse between the waters to separate water from water." 7 So God made the expanse and separated the water under the expanse from the water above it. And it was so. 8 God called the expanse "sky." And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.

9 And God said, "Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear." And it was so. 10 God called the dry ground "land," and the gathered waters he called "seas." And God saw that it was good.

11 Then God said, "Let the land produce vegetation: seed-bearing plants and trees on the land that bear fruit with seed in it, according to their various kinds." And it was so. 12 The land produced vegetation: plants bearing seed according to their kinds and trees bearing fruit with seed in it according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good. 13 And there was evening, and there was morning—the third day.

14 And God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the sky to separate the day from the night, and let them serve as signs to mark seasons and days and years, 15 and let them be lights in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth." And it was so. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the expanse of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day.

20 And God said, "Let the water teem with living creatures, and let birds fly above the earth across the expanse of the sky." 21 So God created the great creatures of the sea and every living and moving thing with which the water teems, according to their kinds, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 God blessed them and said, "Be fruitful and increase in number and fill the water in the seas, and let the birds increase on the earth." 23 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fifth day.

24 And God said, "Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: livestock, creatures that move along the ground, and wild animals, each according to its kind." And it was so. 25 God made the wild animals according to their kinds, the livestock according to their kinds, and all the creatures that move along the ground according to their kinds. And God saw that it was good.

26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, [b] and over all the creatures that move along the ground."

27 So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God he created him;
male and female he created them.

28 God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air and over every living creature that moves on the ground."

29 Then God said, "I give you every seed-bearing plant on the face of the whole earth and every tree that has fruit with seed in it. They will be yours for food. 30 And to all the beasts of the earth and all the birds of the air and all the creatures that move on the ground—everything that has the breath of life in it—I give every green plant for food." And it was so.

31 God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day.

1 Thus the heavens and the earth were completed in all their vast array.

2 By the seventh day God had finished the work he had been doing; so on the seventh day he rested [a] from all his work. 3 And God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it he rested from all the work of creating that he had done.

[nnixx]

I believe in God the Father Almighty. And i also believe in science.