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    i agree with amorsoloX dapat dugay na unta ni gipasa sa congress.
    unsaon man nato na atong mga congressman kay hadlok man sa simbahan.
    mo talaw man dayon.

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    NOT FEASIBLE...NAA ANG KATOLIKONG SIMBAHAN MAG DUPA2x DAYUN ANI NGA ISYU! you know na...

  3. #13
    I don't think enough ning S3X education to prevent teenage and unwanted pregnancies. Congress should also submit laws concerning couples checking in MOTELS & HOTELS. Like in Dubai, for a couple to be able to check in to a motel or hotel they need to present their MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE!

    Kung uyab ra mo, na dili gyud pwede mu-check-in. Ing-ana sila ka-strikto!

    Dapat ang mga motel ug hotel naay policies about ana to help lessen unwanted pregnancy cases labi na sa mga teenagers and college students.


    And para pud sa mga tao nga ang income lower than the poverty line, kung mulapas gali ug 1 ang kamaguwangan nga anak - ipakulata dayon!

  4. #14
    definitely a big yes!...U

  5. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by pepponeskie View Post
    NOT FEASIBLE...NAA ANG KATOLIKONG SIMBAHAN MAG DUPA2x DAYUN ANI NGA ISYU! you know na...
    sakto gyud ka bai! grabeha!!! pirmi babag ang simbahan! maayo ba kung mutabang sila buhi sa mga "unwanted children"!!!!

  6. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by ********r View Post
    sakto gyud ka bai! grabeha!!! pirmi babag ang simbahan! maayo ba kung mutabang sila buhi sa mga "unwanted children"!!!!

    the church doesnt want to help the poor.. the church wants YOU to help the poor....
    ang simbahan maau au mo storya.. lihok.. wala jud...

    there are many people of the cloth doing great things for humanity.. pero saon.. ang ila leaders di man willing mo help kay mopagawas nman pud kwarta...

    talk about hypocrisy.... hehehe

  7. #17
    ^^... They ares still infected by Colonial mentality.. aka mga "Prayle" ug style.. Sila daw permi sakto...

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    Depende rajud ni sa teacher how to deliver/explain about *** education aron dli rapud kau law-ay pagsabot labina sa under age.

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    Default Let's have chastity and values education instead

    S3X EDUCATION AND CATHOLIC SCHOOLS
    Thomas P. Dolan
    http://www.ewtn.com/library/HOMESCHL/SECATHSC.HTM

    When the Council Fathers asserted, at Vatican II, that children should be given prudent *** education and that this education ought to be given in the heart of the family, they said nothing new, but reaffirmed the consistent teaching of the Church. Pope Pius XI has said the same thing in the encyclical, The Education of the Redeemed Man, in December, 1921; and a decree of the Holy Office on March 21, 1931, said that "no approbation whatever can be given" to group *** education, and that precautions must be taken to see that young people avoid all occasions of sin.

    Pope Pius XII, in an address on September 23, 1951, insisted that only parents should give *** education, and on April 13, 1953, he reaffirmed the decree of 1931. In an encyclical, Sacra Virginitas, he condemned immodest *** education, and again in an address to families he urged them to fight the writings which were even then flooding the world concerning "*** initiation," and exaggerating the importance of ***.

    Pope Paul VI, in an address on September 13, 1972, classed *** education along with erotic literature and pornography as one of the evils of the day.

    Despite this wise stand on the part of the Church, some Catholic schools have followed the example of public schools or have bowed to liberal pressure and have put in *** education programs; and some Bishops have been persuaded to permit, and even to recommend, *** education in classrooms.

    This is probably due, on the part of the Bishops, to a misunderstanding of what is meant by *** education. The Bishops probably envision instruction in morals as pertaining to sexual matters. This is of course badly needed — but it is not at all what is encompassed in the *** education programs which proliferate today under various names, e.g., family life education, hygiene, personality development. These programs are based on a philosophy of humanism. Their proponents frankly state that they are not intended to teach morals.

    Many psychologists and psychiatrists have spoken out vigorously against *** education in schools, pointing out its deleterious effect on children. A few of those who have opposed it are Dr. Rhoda Lorand, psychotherapist; Dr. John Meeks, Director of Child and Adolescent Services at the Psychiatric Institute of Washington; Dr. Myre Sim, Professor of Psychiatry at the University of Ottawa; Dr. Charles Sarnoff, Chief of Child Psychiatry at the Brookdale Hospital in Brooklyn; Dr. Viktor Frankl, psychiatrist; Dr. Louise Eickoff, psychiatrist; Dr. Val Davajan, professor at U.C.L.A. Medical School. They have declared that *** instruction of children in the classroom or in groups is dehumanizing and leads to neurosis. Dr. Eickhoff notes a correlation between emotionally disturbed children and those who have been exposed to *** education, and Dr. Davajan states; "I am convinced that those who have planned and are presently promoting this national *** education program have a very definite goal ... to degrade and denigrate the mentality of an entire generation of American children."

    Bishops who countenance *** education in schools quite probably tell themselves that if the instruction is given under Catholic auspices, it will be given "the right way." But there is no right way to give explicit *** instruction to children who are mentally and emotionally unready for it. There is no right way to give information in groups that should be given privately. There is no right way for an outsider to assume a role which belongs particularly to the parents.

    The Bishops, in all probability, would be embarrassed if they themselves were exposed to the type of *** education that is given children in many classrooms today, and would dislike reading some of the material. Much of the material in use is explicit and sensual, and in some cases borders on pornography. These *** education programs which run from the first grade through high school certainly foster preoccupation with ***.

    The things that have followed the introduction of *** education in schools should dismay any thoughtful person. Sweden was a pioneer in this field. The programs were followed by what was termed "sexual hysteria," with a catastrophic increase in venereal disease, a great increase in promiscuity and an increase in the number of teenage pregnancies. Precisely the same pattern has been observed in the United States in areas where *** education has been introduced in schools.

    The reason for this should be very easy to see. When students learn, for example, arithmetic, it is taken for granted that they can put what they learn into practice and can do simple things with their knowledge like handling a small allowance or going to the store and bringing back the right change. It cannot but appear to the students, when they are given detailed and exact information about ***, that they are regarded as ready to make use of this information. Add to this the fact that the teaching is, of its very nature, emotionally stirring and provocative, and you have an explosive situation.

    Modesty and reticence are guardians of chastity. When these are broken down, through casual discussion in groups of what should be intimate, personal matters, the child loses his strongest defense against unchastity.

    When bishops have countenanced *** education in schools, it is clear that they intended an education based on morality, and aimed at forming, in the young, the virtues of modesty and chastity. In the Basic Teachings, the bishops said: "In a *** saturated society, the follower of Christ must be different. For the Christian, there can be no premarital ***, fornication, adultery, or other acts of impurity or scandal to others. He must remain chaste, repelling lustful desires and temptations, self-abuse, pornography, and indecent entertainment of every description... The follower of Christ must be pure in words and actions even in the midst of corruption."

    These things should be taught to young people in every Catholic school. But what we have in many schools is something altogether different. We have courses which reflect the obsession with *** that has permeated secular society.

    We have learned that some *** education courses, some of them in the name of religion or theology, are given to young people with the admonition that they are not to take any of the printed material home with them, or even to discuss the subject matter with their parents. In programs we have seen which were given with this admonition, nothing at all is left to the imagination. Intimate parts of the body and their sexual functions are described in minute detail. Every aspect of *** is explored, and the most explicit descriptions of deviant and aberrant behavior are included. All types of contraceptives are described and their use explained in detail. One course we have seen provides students with the vulgar words for sexual functions or parts of the body, and gives a full explanation of each one.

    It would be difficult to claim that the purpose of these programs is to teach morality, in view of their explicitness, their amoral manner of representation, and their use of crude language. In fact, in the programs of which we speak, there is no mention of the morality or immorality of any particular action. In at least one of them, Humanae Vitae is described as presenting a papal position which "is not of the faith nor is it infallible," and the student is told that "after much thought and responsible consideration each person must follow his/her own educated conscience in this matter."

    It is apparently assumed, by those who prepare these programs, that young people are going to engage in premarital sexual activity. This attitude, in itself, is psychologically devastating. A Christian society should expect its young people to be moral, and a Catholic school should be particularly positive in expecting this, and positive in its teaching of virtue. These programs are quite the opposite. They give the young person an ugly and not at all Christian view of ***, the material, by its very nature, will inevitably produce unchaste thoughts, and this may readily lead to immoral actions. While they are particularly bad for the young, these programs would not be good for people of any age, for they include information that no moral person needs. St. Paul tells us that immorality, obscenity, and uncleanness should "not even be mentioned" among Christians.

    Proponents of *** education presumably believe in frankness and in factuality. But these are important facts we have not found in any of the *** education programs we have read:

    1. that fornication and adultery are serious sins; that indeed any use of one's sexual powers outside marriage is seriously sinful;
    2. that unchastity inevitably has sad emotional and psychological repercussions which are unknown to the person who lives a chaste life;
    3. that illicit sexual activity can result in incurable diseases which will torment the victim for all the rest of his life;
    4. that there is NO certain way of avoiding venereal disease and unwanted pregnancy other than the practice of continence.


    Some of the courses we have seen are worse than others, but they are all destructive of reticence and modesty. Some of them are prone to vulgarity and all of them infringe on the student's privacy.

    None of the programs we have seen teach young people the most essential facts — e.g. that fornication and adultery are mortal sins; that committing these sins just once may result in acquiring an incurable disease that will be with the person for life, or in an unwanted pregnancy. There is hardly anything a teenager could need to know that would be of more importance to his present and future life.

    One omission is all reference to life-long celibacy and continence. The authors seem to assume that the unmarried priesthood is due to end, or they would refer to the fact that some people, if they have vocations to the priesthood or to religious life, will never marry and are therefore bound to continence. Or, if they have vocations to single life in the world.

    These *** education programs disregard Pope Paul's call, In Humanae Vitae, for the fostering of an atmosphere favorable to chastity. None of these we have seen are favorable to chastity. The preoccupation with *** that they foster is neither normal nor desirable. The increase in teenage promiscuity, pregnancy, and venereal disease since the introduction of *** education in schools bears testimony to that fact.

    Pope John Paul II has recently issued an Apostolic Exhortation on the Role of the Christian Family (in 1981). He insists that the right and duty of parents to give education is essential, original and primary, "and it is irreplaceable and inalienable, and therefore incapable of being entirely delegated to others or usurped by others." *** education, Pope John Paul says, is "a basic right and duty of parents" and must always be carried out under their guidance, whether at home or in education centers controlled by them. Education for chastity, he says, is absolutely essential.

    We urge all parents to investigate their children's religion programs, as well as any *** education programs or "family life programs" that may be used in their schools. Know precisely what your children are being taught in every area. Insist on your right to know. Explain to your children that when anyone tells them not to tell their parents about something, this is a clear sign that something is wrong, and they should tell their parents at once.

    If, upon investigation, you find objectionable programs in your schools, talk with other parents and go in groups to protest to the school authorities, and if necessary, to your Bishop. Be prepared for "put-downs" from those who are defenders of the programs, such as: "You are not qualified to judge the appropriateness of the material because you are not professionals." Or, to quote another statement that has actually been made: "Children need this information so desperately that it must be given in spite of parental disapproval and even without parental knowledge or consent."

    Do not be put off by these or similar answers. Parents are the first educators of their children. This is a principle that the Church has always upheld, and it is reaffirmed very clearly and firmly by Vatican II. Parents must insist on respect for their rights and authority.

    The above is chapter XI of On Teaching the Faith,
    by Thomas P. Dolan, 1984.
    This book is available from The Institute on Religious Life
    P.O. Box 41007
    Chicago, IL 60641.



    Yes to CHASTITY AND VALUES EDUCATION
    No to contraceptive s3x education

  10. #20
    no to ignorance! yes to s3x education...

    say no to spiritual and mental slavery by supposed "holy teachers"

    (an example of colonial metality here so u know who... mura jud og prayle.. sakto lage daw kuno cya hihihihih)
    Last edited by AmorsoloX; 06-26-2010 at 04:49 PM.

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