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  1. #1061

    Quote Originally Posted by Guitargod View Post
    @dartzed: you talk too much.. being human is not an excuse.. Kung kabasa and understand lang jud ka tibuok bible, ang main problem jud kay idolatry. Ikaw, I'm not forcing you man sad or anyone else here. Basta ako sure jud ko sa akong gi-ingon wether you like it or not mao jud na ang tinuod. Pray and worship your "gods" as you like. One day makahibaw raka.. That's why nibiya kog pagka RC kay tungod sa akong pgka open minded, and pasalamat ko ana kay nakita kos tinuod. My faith is sealed with the blood of my Saviour Jesus Christ. I'll stop posting to this thread after this post. Kapoyg debate sa mga tao nga di maminaw. To tell you frankly, ang Roman Catholic Church may gi pasabot sa Revelation. Pagan Roman Church ang 1st name ana. And until now pagan gihapon ang inyong practise. Hope your gods will save you from the fire.
    hahaha ur so naive now looks who's talking, you're problem is ganahan ka imu ra ang sakto d gani ka muunderstand sa point sa uban instead you are accusing us is that what you call open mindedness?.. magcge ka ug ingon idolatry ako kasabot ko unsa na ikaw kasabot kas amo gibuhat you don't even try to consider pagtan.aw ug pagsabot sako gisulti..

    kamo ba noh magcge mo pangutana tubagon na gani mo ug tarong inyo nua ing.non nakig debate pagsure mo oi!.. kaklaro ana nagexpalin rako, a a healthy discussion is supposed to be listening on both sides.. if d ka ganahan minaw ayaw sad ug pangdaot kay ang romano katoliko wala raba mo gidaot giampo pa raba mo namo.. ing.ana inyo christian way of living?..
    Last edited by dartzed; 06-17-2010 at 09:45 AM.

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    ^^hehehe wala pa jud diay mahupas ang mga taga SnO sauna da,

  3. #1063
    @mr_niceprice: as what i have said ang practice man ang sayop ninyo.. at least naa mi nag inusarang Ginoo nya walay mga rebulto... any religion will do basta walay mga rebulto nga gina ampu-an og mga kalag sad diay...

    @dartzed: Ponder to the things i've said. So kung dili jud ka mo agree nako nga which is the truth, better not to reply or quote my post.. Pagdaot? Tinuod man sad.. I'm not afraid for I know the truth. Bisan pag mo ingon kag namakak ko or gidaot nako inyo pagka PAGAN, mao man jud nay tinuod... Wa jud kay mabuhat ana... Sorry nalang jud... Okay?

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    Hahaha...

    You Christians are TOO LAZY to really study the history of the Bible and the anonymous writers who created the books that make up the bible. The bible writers 'stole' most of their myths from the Sumeran, Babylonian, Assyrian, Egyptian folktales.

    The religion of Christianity was strongly built as a legit religion in the fourth century when Roman Emperor Constantine took the, by then apostate Christianity and fused them in with Paganism to form common ground so that the people would not revolt against him and he would maintain control over the population at a time when many were turning away. They adopted many false Pagan doctrines such as the immortality of the soul and 'hellfire'. Constantine even decided, to the dismay of many bishops, that Christ was God himself! Later it became known as the 'Holy' Roman Emperor.

    Since then, many wars have been fought in the name of God, notably the Catholic Crusades and 'ethnic cleansing' in former Yugoslavia and Rwanda. World leaders have used apostate 'Christianity' to lead the people to slaughter one another for the sake of their own power struggles ,such as Hitler's negotiations with the Pope and the anti-religious Communists giving more freedom to the Churches in Russia, simply to gain the favour and support of the general people, many whom were 'preached into the trenches in two world wars that claimed the lives of millions of vulnerable young men.
    Last edited by FAQ; 06-17-2010 at 11:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FAQ View Post
    Hahaha...

    You Christians are TOO LAZY to really study the history of the Bible and the anonymous writers who created the books that make up the bible. The bible writers 'stole' most of their myths from the Sumeran, Babylonian, Assyrian, Egyptian folktales.

    The religion of Christianity was strongly built as a legit religion in the fourth century when Roman Emperor Constantine took the, by then apostate Christianity and fused them in with Paganism to form common ground so that the people would not revolt against him and he would maintain control over the population at a time when many were turning away. They adopted many false Pagan doctrines such as the immortality of the soul and 'hellfire'. Constantine even decided, to the dismay of many bishops, that Christ was God himself! Later it became known as the 'Holy' Roman Emperor.

    Since then, many wars have been fought in the name of God, notably the Catholic Crusades and 'ethnic cleansing' in former Yugoslavia and Rwanda. World leaders have used apostate 'Christianity' to lead the people to slaughter one another for the sake of their own power struggles ,such as Hitler's negotiations with the Pope and the anti-religious Communists giving more freedom to the Churches in Russia, simply to gain the favour and support of the general people, many whom were 'preached into the trenches in two world wars that claimed the lives of millions of vulnerable young men.
    OFF TOPIC. Anyways, wa mani pugsanay...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guitargod View Post
    OFF TOPIC. Anyways, wa mani pugsanay...
    No it's not OFF TOPIC.

  7. #1067
    Quote Originally Posted by Guitargod View Post
    @mr_niceprice: as what i have said ang practice man ang sayop ninyo.. at least naa mi nag inusarang Ginoo nya walay mga rebulto... any religion will do basta walay mga rebulto nga gina ampu-an og mga kalag sad diay...

    @dartzed: Ponder to the things i've said. So kung dili jud ka mo agree nako nga which is the truth, better not to reply or quote my post.. Pagdaot? Tinuod man sad.. I'm not afraid for I know the truth. Bisan pag mo ingon kag namakak ko or gidaot nako inyo pagka PAGAN, mao man jud nay tinuod... Wa jud kay mabuhat ana... Sorry nalang jud... Okay?
    dha ka saup bro kay naa jud mi nabuhat..hehe

    i have let you see what i want you to see bro, your reactions seems not interested in what i was saying feel free to say what you wana say sa Roman Catholic yet God Bless You nlang..

    there is more than what you see and what you hear if only imo iopen imo self to it..
    if naa ka question im always open to answer it all(if u want biblically then be it) maybe d imprompto but sure ko matubag rana as long as d out of context..

    still by far the only sector that answers most of my questions is the Roman Catholic pa jud for the mean time, so im sticking with them..
    Last edited by dartzed; 06-17-2010 at 12:11 PM.

  8. #1068
    Quote Originally Posted by Guitargod View Post
    1st, 2nd , and 3rd commandment ang na violate nimo kung ni worship kag idols, let me give you the verse... If you just read the Bible and understand it maka ingon mog sakto ko.
    Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Thou shalt not make unto thee ANY GRAVEN IMAGE, or any likeness or ANYTHING that is in HEAVEN ABOVE, or that is in the EARTH BENEATH, or that is in the WATER UNDER THE EARTH. Thou shalt NOT BOW DOWN THYSELF to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God.
    Exodus 20:3-5 KJV
    Klaro najud kaayo na "ANY GRAVEN IMAGES" in HEAVEN ABOVE = kana inyong mga saints/patrons.. EARTH BENEATH = kana inyong POPE. Diba nagserve or worship mo sa mga santos ninyo (ex. black nazarrene, Mary, and etc)? Now deny pamo? This is not a form of discrimination of other religions. It's enlightenment. Those who are open minded kay mabulahan. Hope usa mo nila..

    About prayers, it must come from the heart. Not chanting. Wether you like it or not novena is chanting/incantations. The orgin of that is Babylon adopted by Rome and until know mao ghapon na gibuhat sa mga tao..

    About practising what you preach, naa koy kaila nga naa sa vatican karon nga pari nga mo smoke, drink and even gamble.. wanna know the name? I'll PM you.. About 9 ka pari akong na-ilhan nga naay bisyo.. ang usa kay silingan jud namo sauna..How much more kaha sa tibuok kalibutan noh? Now, compare our preachers to yours.

    Note: If this violate the rule, (I think not) Then I'm ready to receive an Infraction.

    gasige na lang ni ug tuyok tuyok nga mga posts .. anyway, sa quoted nimo nga verse from Exodus, klaro nga gidili ang graven images sa "giingon nimo" .. pero sa dihang nahimo na ang "covenant" between God and israel, nag himo sila ug Ark of the Covenant: ang sulod, maingon pa: ang stone tablets ug manna. Unya miingon pa ang Ginoo, nga ang ark dunay duha ka mga images, of course, graven, kay hinimo man sa tawo kaha, sa duha ka anghel. Unsa man pasabot ani? sa old testament, gisimba nila ang Ginoo ug dako ang parte sa Ark of the Covenant sa ilang worship. Mi contradict ba kini sa verses nga imo gi quote? graven images man. Given your idea of idolatry, yes, it is idol worship .. kay mo bow man sila sa arko .. ang worship nila sentro man sa arko, kay gibutang gud sa pinaka Holy nga parte sa Templo ... para nimo unsa man ang arko: gi worship ba nila? Hinimo kini sa tawo dili ba?

  9. #1069
    haha. ge close na gane ang thread para religion ky samok na kaau, dre nsad sa Gen discussion nag pabuhagay, haha. .

    wai gobot hap. .

    Love Peace and LOL

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    Ark of the covenant is not an Idol. The instructions is given from God himself. Naivity is for those who puts shame on the ONE True God dodong. Intawn ayaw intawn paka-uwawi ang pangan nga Jesus sa inyong pag-ampo og mga santos og kalag.

    @dartzed: ahhh, okay.. If that's your belief then so be it. As what I have said, wise man speaks less. Naa kay potential bai, pero sayop lang imong gitu-uhan jud.. I'll pray for you nga mka kita ka sa tinuod. Wether its catholic thingy or not.
    @mr_niceprice: kay ngano, nirespetar mo sa tinuod og nag-inusara nga Ginoo nga among ginasimba? Now I know ngano la to nimo nakuha ang logic nako. Is it because wa ka nag-ampo sa imong ginoo og nangayo og wisdom? wa man gani kay panahon magbasa sa bibliya niya magstart kag debate.. hehe..lol

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