Daniel Dingel: Water Machine, Embezzelment and Etc.

[moklo]

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The one who said this is a fake then he is the one who did not understand the process of this invention.

[salbahis]

it would be much better if it will be used as small generator para sa balay... para independent ta sa power company...

[hitch22]

Water as car fuel? First, get ready for this...the concept can work...but only as part of a hybrid system! Alas, EVEN IN A HYBRID SYSTEM, IT IS NOT EVEN EFFICIENT NOR PRACTICAL!

Just to share with you what I've read from a skeptic's point of view:

Study them critically, and you'll find that they all represent net losses of energy. Be assured that engineers know more about physics than television reporters...Welders who have heard about these devices generally fall onto the ground laughing when they hear it.

This "water fuel system" uses the car battery to electrolyze water to produce hydrogen and then adds them to an oxidizing agent to create what's called "oxyhydrogen fuel". This is the same gas used in water torches, and also known as Brown's gas, which is used as welding flame. The gas consists of two parts hydrogen gas to one part oxygen, same as water, but chemically separate from one another.

Think of the space shuttle's main engines, which also use hydrogen mixed with an oxidizing agent. Recall the size of the explosion when the Challenger's main tank blew. Oxyhydrogen does have huge explosive potential, which is why it's such a great fuel for water torches.

Water torches have been around for a long time, so there is nothing new about this concept. It has never been of interest to automotive engineers because making the oxyhydrogen fuel consumes more energy than can be produced by burning it. Welding is not the art of energy efficiency, so this is not a problem for the welding industry.

It would be a huge problem for the automotive industry, which cannot afford to spend more energy creating oxyhydrogen than could be produced burning it.

The same goes for your car's engine. If your battery starts with a full charge, your car may indeed run more efficiently with one of these devices for a short time, until the battery is drained enough that the engine must take on the additional load of recharging it.

And then there's that pesky law of thermodynamics again. It will never be possible to gain more energy burning the oxyhydrogen than it takes to create the oxyhydrogen. You can borrow energy from the burning gasoline to keep the reaction going, but now you are running less efficiently than you could under gasoline alone.

SORRY. LAW OF THERMODYNAMICS...not politicians...SAYS THIS SYSTEM IS NOT EFFICIENT and therefore not economically viable.

[leo_trams]

leo_trams;ahhh, mas cheaper diay ang Gasoline engine to LPG conversion kay sa Gasoline engine to Water conversion.

- duh! what do you think?

Ang LPG kit gi sell ngadto sa mga ordinary man...unya ang water kit ni dingle dili niya ibaligya ngadto sa ordinary man? Gusto niya bigtime company ra gyud? ngano man? kay ilad man, might as well do it big time...dah! Priso lagi!

-of course, ikaw bay naka imbiento ug bag-o, mu sibya ka sa secreto sa imo imbensyon?

unya naay silingan ni support niya nga ni sulti, "TINOOD na kang Dingle uy, more pa cross my heart!"

- mura kag guba nga plaka sunod sunod ra nako. please be original. wahahaha!

If a product is beneficial to the community, walay bisan kinsa nga makapugong sa mga tawo nga mopatronize niini.

-of course wala gyuy makapugong, but you forget the power of the Corrupt Politicians in our beloved country. We common people love to patronize our very own, pero ma threaten ang Oil Industry if ma implement ni nga Sakyanan. Thats why the Corrupt Government will always stop Dingle to mass produce.

Example: Mineral water or Drinking water or Distilled water. Sa una FREE ra gyud na ang tubig, and you can drink directly from the tap/faucet. Beh, karon, nganong ang mga tawo mopalit man gyud ug mineral water? nganong wala may dagkong companies(MCWD, softdrinks companies) nga nibabag sa ilang production?

wahahaha, your argument is all messed up, but ill help you clarify some stuff. Mineral and Distilled waters are processed in a special way, filtering any form of deadly bacterias that might have polluted it. Tap water is not 100% clean, thats why Filtration water companies took advantage of this, its like a sub-product from the original.

Your comparing MCWD, to Mineral Water? hahaha, isnt obvious? MCWD provides Tap Water. Processed Filtration Water Companies provides Filtered, and Distilled water, better than tap water.
and these Water companies get their tap water from MCWD. now are you learning?

so meaning Gabayad ning mga gagmay nga water companies sa MCWD, mao ang MCWD hayahay pas police. So theres no reason to Complain.

And you even include Softdrink companies. So your saying Softdrink companies are competitor with Mineral Water? wahahahaha, get your facts straight. Dili intawn na mu babag ang Softdrink companies sa Mineral Water companies intawn uy. Softdrinks ug Mineral water pwerte tawng lahi-a.

oh, by the way, why are you so pessimistic in Filipino Inventions? Did somebody messed up your car by mixing water in your gas tank?

you're missing the point bro.

anyway, why not go to Dingle and have your car's engine converted to water powered engine?
Pila diay ang cost pag paconvert?

Nakakita man ko ani niya sa TV.
Iya gipanghambug to iya red corolla GLI nga water powered lagi.
Unya naay taga DTI, naay taga TOYOTA, siempre ang media.
Gi abrihan niya ang hood, gipakita ang iyang makina ang iyang black box, gipasimhot...wala gyud lagi gasolina! Unya kay gitaga-an kaha siya ug whiteboard ug whiteboard marker para iya i-explain, technically...
na unsa nga mag sige man hinuon ug balik-balik sulti...nga wala lagi gasolina, tan-awa ninyo...unya nag sige na siya ug komentaryo nga sayop ang design sa makina sa TOYOTA, dapat kuno walay engine cap kay ang engine cap mao kunoy makaguba sa makina kay dili kuno makaginhawa ang makina...hehehe. Daghan pa to siya ug gi pangyawyaw nga ang mga naa didto nag panglingo-lingo hehehe....

If he is really serious in his so called invention...dapat naa siyay ikapakita nga technical data.
If wala kay technical data, then better keep it to yourself and wallow with invention.

Videos and testimonies are not enough.

If you can show us technical data....mas maayo

Dili man ko against or pessimistic on Filipino inventions.
Some of us are just gullible enough nga mokubit gyud hook line and sinker sa mga gibuhat sa uban.


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[lazaro4ever]

it simply doesn't work.. in order to convert water into a combustible fuel takes so much energy. a 12-volt battery can't do that.

exactly, if he was able to do it. he should prove it to the world.. he's asking for patents, but doesn't want DOST to take a look at his work.. How can that be?

He's basically saying.. I can convert a car to run on water, but don't take a look at my work.. Just believe me..

No offense, but it sounds too fishy..

[elvishtattoo]

tinonto man gud, dah! priso lagi.
invention gud tawon. asa ka tuo. hoax jud klaro

[mlhl@7]

naunsa man sad ning tawhana nga pwerte man diay ani ka laog sa iya nahimo.... dsad cguro maayu nang iya ui.. nga dili niya e share mao sad cguro wala jud ni support nya.. Panggwarta ra diay ni iya.

Kung para sa katawhan iya gihimo dili sad cguro niya ilaog na sa uban!...

I just visit this thread and you got my attention. I think wala ka nabasa or naka visit sa site ni Mang Dingel and other writes up about him. You better visit his sites, research and know what are his concerns and intentions.

You better do your homework first before jumping into a conclusion, kapait sad nimo moklo..

[moklo]

I believe in his invention but I don,t like his way of life. I know ni too ka sa iya gipang sulti nga mga pasalig like kung mapalit na gani iya invention sa lain kinahanglan naa pinoy mo work didto sa nakapalit. The question is kinahanglan pa diay iya ibaligya sa lain? ngano diay ug mag market cya diri sa pinas nga mo convert cya ug car from gasoline to water lisod ba diay nahh... the bottom line is he made it for something nga maka guinansya sya ug dako.

Usa sad kadtong mga tao nga ni duol niya na amazed lang to cila... daghan na kaayo nahimo nga ingon ani nga car bro ug mas convenient pa gamiton.. Ngano gud tawon mo kuha pa ang mga investor ug ingon ana, mag hire nalang ko for RnD.
YouTube - H2O Car - Water Powered Car
One thing bro, he is old enough na. Itago guihapon niya ang secret? Tanawa ug unsa siya ka laog. Think about that bro.

[orcgod]

you're missing the point bro.

anyway, why not go to Dingle and have your car's engine converted to water powered engine?
Pila diay ang cost pag paconvert?

Nakakita man ko ani niya sa TV.
Iya gipanghambug to iya red corolla GLI nga water powered lagi.
Unya naay taga DTI, naay taga TOYOTA, siempre ang media.
Gi abrihan niya ang hood, gipakita ang iyang makina ang iyang black box, gipasimhot...wala gyud lagi gasolina! Unya kay gitaga-an kaha siya ug whiteboard ug whiteboard marker para iya i-explain, technically...
na unsa nga mag sige man hinuon ug balik-balik sulti...nga wala lagi gasolina, tan-awa ninyo...unya nag sige na siya ug komentaryo nga sayop ang design sa makina sa TOYOTA, dapat kuno walay engine cap kay ang engine cap mao kunoy makaguba sa makina kay dili kuno makaginhawa ang makina...hehehe. Daghan pa to siya ug gi pangyawyaw nga ang mga naa didto nag panglingo-lingo hehehe....

If he is really serious in his so called invention...dapat naa siyay ikapakita nga technical data.
If wala kay technical data, then better keep it to yourself and wallow with invention.

Videos and testimonies are not enough.

If you can show us technical data....mas maayo

Dili man ko against or pessimistic on Filipino inventions.
Some of us are just gullible enough nga mokubit gyud hook line and sinker sa mga gibuhat sa uban.


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Ipakita iya technical DATA? wala malifung ang taga TOYOTA? mao nay ako isulti if I were Dingle. Thats my invention, why would I explain to them the "TECHNICAL DATA" without getting paid. Do you know the capability of TOYOTA? They can absorb information like a sponge.

Thats why Dingle is very careful in opening up any information. Your the one who is missing the point.

You already mentioned, TOYOTA people went there, and said no GAS. Ikaw na hinuon nga dili taga TOYOTA, dili ka mutoo? so asa man ko mutoo, sa taga TOYOTA nga ni ingon walay GAS, or sa imong tagna tagna nga taphaw?

Ako gullible? im optimistic not a fool. and I dont have crab mentality like some people here. putting inventors down just because they are greedy. And I understand Mr. Dingles side, he wants to have lots of money. Bisan ako, and I think all of us, if we have the opportunity, we want money. Who doesnt.

Videos and Testimonies are not enough? Even for the testimonies of TOYOTA people? Basin ikaw maoy nasuya sa invention. maybe you had hundreds of failed attempts to convert your car running in water? just leave it to People like Dingle.

[orcgod]

this is Dingles website Daniel Dingel - Filipino Inventor

this is the PIPAC (199: 45% Hydrogen

TÜV Rheinland Group Describes the Watercar