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  1. #71

    @raski
    you can choose to view the "injustice" statement in any context but i'm not claiming an injustice has already been committed. that as much should have been clear. the injustice will happen if the scenario mentioned occurs. speculative? well it is but is it baseless? if it had been then we wouldn't have been here arguing. roxas is thick but not that thick. the probability of him winning, however slim, is within the realm of possibilities. he would have looked stupid not just thick pursuing this if the possibility does not exist. it does. i for one won't waste time arguing if didn't.

    how could you assume, this late in our discussion, that i don't know how the pcos work specially with respect to reading the ballot or the definition/effects of over/under voting? you hurt me so

    i also skimmed thru R.A. 8436 as well as its amendments R.A. 9369. i think they left the actual figure for comelec to specify during procurement of the machine. in my searches the margin of error is most likely the pcos scan error rate which as specified by comelec should 0.005% or below.

    relevant links about it….
    2010 election surprise: Binay leading Roxas - Eleksyon 2010 - GMANews.TV
    "In such close contests, we will need the .005% or lower error rate from PCOS machines specified by the Comelec."

    NAMFREL: Some PCOS machines failed accuracy test | ABS-CBN News Online Beta
    "The Commission on Elections (Comelec) has specified that the minimum accuracy rate for the China-made PCOS machine should be 99.995% or a maximum error rate of .005%."

    PCOS machines in Philippine automated elections: failure rates, error rates Ecology, technology and social change
    "Each machine has to be calibrated towards that ideal spot which minimizes the total errors from both false positives and false negatives. Based on COMELEC specs, this total should be lower than .005%, or five scanning errors for every 100,000 marks"

  2. #72
    Well I don't want to belabor this issue so I'll make it concise:

    1. Letting Mar Roxas get his way will burden the taxpayer with a costly and tedious recount that is unlikely to change the result.

    2. The mere fact that there are many more null votes for the VP than the President does not give rise to a strong case for a recount. Not every allegation merits an investigation. The presumption that the machines did their job regularly is strong and cannot be overruled by mere speculation.

    3. Candidates knew beforehand that undershading and overshading will result in null votes, if they really cared about this issue they would have spent more on voter education than on their campaigns. Rules should not be changed after the game is already over.

    4. Machines may be inaccurate, but they are unbiased, fast and efficient. Humans are not only inaccurate, in this country they tend to be very biased, slow and indecisive. People trust the PCOS more than they do an Electoral Tribunal.
    Last edited by raski; 06-06-2010 at 07:57 PM.

  3. #73
    if there's a way for us to end #1 with "recount that is NOT GOING to change the result" with finality then issue is resolved.

    not as concise i suppose but brief. the rest of the items are subject to the same cyclic arguments and will result again in an impasse

    peace bai.

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    Elite Member chebs's Avatar
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    binay gyud daog ane...maglisud lang gyud dawat c mar ug korina...

  5. #75
    mao ni dakung problema ron, naa na gani gesabotan kng unsa ang valid ug dli valid...pangitaan na nuon ur rason pra dli e follow, dapat ila nana ge anticipate daan or lekramo nila daan...tsk..tsk..tsk...
    Last edited by ingkiang; 06-06-2010 at 09:15 PM.

  6. #76
    unsa ng programming language eax? hehehe! morag ana gyud ang gusto ni roxas mahitabo! bwahahaha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ********r View Post
    unsa ng programming language eax? hehehe! morag ana gyud ang gusto ni roxas mahitabo! bwahahaha!
    puwede Java, C/C++, C#. Pili lang ana.

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    nganong nagpakasal ni korina,g-demalas nuon lols

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    ^^lol. gi dimalas ky ang usa sa mga ninong nila sa kasal ky single pa mn until now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peewee_toot View Post
    ^^lol. gi dimalas ky ang usa sa mga ninong nila sa kasal ky single pa mn until now.
    Ngano makadala man og malas si korina?


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