Kinsa jud imo gituohan kung diin jud tah gikan, ang Bible or Science?

**orcgod** · 05-29-2010, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by robert_papalid_ece

i find it funny that evolution-people kept on asking evidence on the existence of God... while in the first place... they haven't even gave us yet (or never) the totally convincing link between humans and the ape-like creatures that they're saying... but instead... they gave us the genetic similarities of monkeys and humans... and they are already convinced by it...

as ive said before... "logic" is our evidence... and a Supreme Being exists...

wait... hilig ka'g links noh: Does the DNA similarity between chimps and humans prove a common ancestry? - ChristianAnswers.Net

Oh ok, so INGON KA we havent gave you a "TOTALLY CONVINCING LINK", yes para sa IMO not totally, but somehow convincing, kay not totally man, so naay percent nga convincing. matod pa NIMO. haha.

Kamo naa sad moy TOTALLY CONVINCING EVIDENCE sa inyung GINOO? Your supreme being exist?

Asa man bai? pwede siya mubisita sa ako balay diri sa Texas?

Pwede niya matang tang ug malimpyu ang Oil Spill sa Gulf of mexico karon? kay di na matabang?

daghan na patay isda, nga created KUNO sa inyu GINOO. Asa man siya Bai?

also what your blabbering about is only YOUR opinion. "as ive said before... "logic" is our evidence... and a Supreme Being exists..."

its just what YOU'VE said. Get it?

and oh, im asking evidence from YOUR GOD's existence, and not a link that ive read 5 years ago, which is pretty bias.

maybe a Photoshop edited picture of heaven perhaps will do? or a video of your church member telling fantasy stories about him taken by God to heaven? or maybe a visual effects of you flying to heaven with the angels?

geez, you need to wake up from your God-delusion fantasies. like Jim Carrey says, SMITE ME OH MIGHTY SMITER!!!!!!!

your God should be smiting me right now for blasphemy. Ohhhh, im scared.

**yesh1314** · 05-29-2010, 12:46 PM

mas tuo ko sa science compare sa bible....

**lem_torn07** · 05-29-2010, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by romano2717

ang diseases sa taw mao nay ebedensya sa evolution. sauna ubo ra to, karun AIDS na, and expect more to come.

BRO naa nay AIDS sauna wla lng cla kbalo sa NAME...

**FAQ** · 05-29-2010, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by robert_papalid_ece

around 60-70% of the world's population believe in God... and only 10-20% are believers of evolution... correct my numbers if they are inaccurate...

So what? That doesn't mean that ALL God believers are all in favor for Creationism, in fact, 47.36% of people don't even believe in your God. If you look at the pie graph, there are only 33.22% of people believe in your God combined with Judaism. Let's just not include Islam because the Quran firmly denies Jesus Christ as God’s Son and a God -- feel free to call Muslims as devils.

Ok, European countries (obviously MOST people there are Christians) have more than 80 percent of adults believe in Evolution.

Proof: Evolution Less Accepted in U.S. Than Other Western Countries, Study Finds You can find the graph in the article.

Also, 59% of Canadians (77% are Christians) choose Evolution Over Creationism. [2]

On a sidenote, this is my 666th post, I guess I'm the devil.

**hitch22** · 05-29-2010, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by robert_papalid_ece

if these people just read/believe the Bible... they will never give you false/inaccurate predictions... why?
Matthew 24:36
"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."

therefore... they are ALL false prophets... and i am not part of these people... coz my faith will never predict an exact date of the Second Coming... better just be prepared... coz basin ugma... in 100 years... 1000 years... 1 million years... nobody knows... "only" the Father knows...

Seek and you shall find. Indeed, if you want to seek justification for any caprice or contradictions to make erstwhile falsely held beliefs come out right, you can find it in the Bible.

Matthew 24:34 "Verily I say unto you, THIS GENERATION shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled."

Matthew 16:28 "Verily I say unto you, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom."

Matthew 10:23 "Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come."

Matthew 6:34 "Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself."

Jesus Christ said these things, as Bertrand Russell remarked about these passages, "largely because he thought that the Second Coming was going to be very soon and that all ordinary mundane affairs did not count....The early Christians did really believe it, and they did abstain from such things as planting trees in their gardens, because they did accept from Christ the belief that the Second Coming was imminent. In that respect, clearly He was not so wise as some other people have been, and He was certainly not superlatively wise."

By Second Coming, as you know, is the Christian eschatology...the last judgment of the living and the dead and the establishment of The Kingdom. It does sound as though Christ got his calculations wrong. But ahhhh...thank goodness for good ol' contradiction. A lot of Christians have done the math about the End of Days. Certain signs from contemporary events were interpreted as ominous and resembling the poetic descriptions from Revelations. Perhaps, after getting embarrassed by all the error buzzer sounds, they all grabbed the lifeline of Matthew 24:36 and ran with it.

Speaking of Revelations, the guy who wrote this apocalyptic vision was John of Patmos. Patmos is a Greek island where John was believed to be in exile. The place is also notoriously known for the abundance of the hallucinogenic mushrooms scientifically named Amanita muscaria. Clark Heinrich, in his book "Magic Mushrooms in Religion and Alchemy" interprets the hallucinogenic mushrooms' consumption by biblical figures such as Moses, Elijah, Isaiah, John of Patmos...and surprisingly, Jesus.

A lot of times there is a rational explanation for people claiming to see "visions of the future" or "hearing voices in their heads". Consuming hallucinogenic mushrooms comes as a very rational explanation. One can argue about whether Clark was right about his "biblical figures and mushrooms" theory...but it's definitely more plausible than believing that John's visions were real.

**robert_papalid_ece** · 05-29-2010, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by chad_tukes

false prophets? what makes you think your God is the true God? because the Bible says so?

they are all false prophets bru... kay obviously... nagcontradict na man sila sa gisulti sa Bible... "only" the Father knows gani sa exact day sa Second Coming... human magpredict2x pa diay sila kung kanus-a... siyempre false prophets kaayo... and their existence are mentioned in the Bible:

Matthew 24:24
"For false Christs and false prophets will arise and will show great signs and wonders, so as to mislead, if possible, even the elect."

**azyle** · 05-29-2010, 04:49 PM

i am a person not easily persuaded by hearsays if it not supported with facts and proofs,
but for this topic... i'd choose to believe that there is a supreme power that created us with
His own image and likeness...

if we were to believe in the big bang theory and all other scientific theory...
who made the cosmos?

**robert_papalid_ece** · 05-29-2010, 05:12 PM