MERGED: Vigilantism and related issues

[wendellmb]

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ok ra.. ayw lang ko apila..

[fingolfin]

Ipa vigilante palang na mga koduktor ug drayber na badlungon uy..... :mrgreen:

... the misconception of vigilante killings. they arent killing just for the sake of it. they do research first of their "victim". Most of their killings are silent and clean.

[Oakboy]

don't blame it all to vigilantes...hehehe! tuo manmo anang media nga wla mana maka kita mao gyud alleged and suspected wlay klaro pasagad lang og conclude bisan lain og hinungdan ngano gi patay to siya vigilantes dayon pasanginlan kai nag motor og nag helmet pag pusil..vigilante syle killing lang..

[bad donkey!]

amahan nga nilugos sa kaugalingon nga anak! hehehe..unsa gani ni nga kanta? maayo ra nga naa vigilante dapat kada adlaw naa sila patyon nga criminal...kanang mga snatcher, tulisan, mga adis2x ug uban pa.dili na sila angay silutan dapat patyon dayon para mahadlok ang uban!

[mannyamador]

everyone knows how FULLY UNRELIABLE they are

And you are more reliable? Yeah, right.

Prove it as always with your BACK UP evidences KUNO .

Killing someone who has not been convicted is an extra-judicial killing. It's called MURDER. It's a crime.Try reading the Constitution and the Criminal Code.

[fingolfin]

... this is the third topic about the vigilante issue. there are protagonists and of course there are antagonists. but on both sides, who are you trying to defend?? the victims or the criminals?? both are humans, but the other has commited a crime. it wouldn't have come to this point, vigilante killings, if our judicial system is very effective. just READ ME as proof of the efficiency of the justice system. for sure, you will be discouraged.

.. the underlying issue here is HUMAN RIGHTS. is it humane killings those criminals?? what about the victims?? where is their rights??

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

And you are more reliable? Yeah, right.

And what did I say MR MANNY ? Did I say anything in regards towards any information that is more reliable ? LOLZ .... how about you ? Are you more reliable than me and the media ?

Killing someone who has not been convicted is an extra-judicial killing. It's called MURDER. It's a crime.Try reading the Constitution and the Criminal Code.

You are OUT of CONTEXT . I am asking you to prove that the victims were killed by VIGILANTES ( if ever they are still on the prowl or if they actually existed ) . Everyone knows that killing is a crime . ITS CALLED MURDER ? Hehehe ... thanks for educating me MR MANNY . While I will try to read the CONSTI and CC , why dont you try to OPEN YOUR SENSES and be more wary on what you say and type .

[Vertical Horizon]

I am asking you to prove that the victims were killed by VIGILANTES ( if ever they are still on the prowl or if they actually existed )

I can only laugh. You're overly philosophical (literal?) towards the issue you forget to fill in the important points.

You asked for evidences. It's hilarious. The police department has not even caught these criminals you're now looking for the things to nail them in court. I daresay catch the crooks before you look for the evidences.

Another thing, you asked if it was really the vigilantes who did those atrocities. Be reminded that the term "vigilante" is not actually the name of these hoodlums. For all we know they named themselves the Brotherhood of the Carabao. But the thing is, in order for the people and media to qualify these criminals, to categorize them they gave them a description, thus Vigilante, which means, "a member of a volunteer committee organized to suppress and punish crime summarily."
And since according to police records these 160 (imagine that man, if that doesn't shock you, I don't know what will) unsolved cases have similarities - armed men riding a motor cycle, gunned down victims were either criminals or suspected criminals - it's enough to say there are being done by these crooks, the vigilante.

The argument is a no-brainer, really. The real issue here is: Has our government (the police department for that matter) that inept to safeguard its citizens?

Because you know, the society might be conditioned through time that it is easy to purge out criminals and suspected criminals simply by killing them and not through our justice system.

And when that time happens, it's like living the horrors of Martial Law again.

[Vertical Horizon]

maayo ra nga naa vigilante dapat kada adlaw naa sila patyon nga criminal

Supposing, part, you were unfortunately being labeled by your neighbors that you become rich is because you deal with narcopolitics. And the Vigilante heard this.

You were shot.

Would you still say, Thank You Vigilante For Short-Cutting The Justice System?

Think.

[SPRINGFIELD_XD_40]

I can only laugh. You're overly philosophical (literal?) towards the issue you forget to fill in the important points.

Â* Like what ? Like some copy cats of the so called VIGILANTES to confuse the public ?

You asked for evidences. It's hilarious. The police department has not even caught these criminals you're now looking for the things to nail them in court. I daresay catch the crooks before you look for the evidences.

Â* YES catch the crooks and let them say personally that I am a VIGILANTE or just trying to ACT LIKE ONE . Is that what you are trying say ? If the POLICE has no clues of the identity of the criminals , how much more on us who only read , watch and listen to news ? Now if someone here POSITIVELY TAGS the criminals as VIGILANTES , kamo na lang pag NBI , PNP or CIDG .

Another thing, you asked if it was really the vigilantes who did those atrocities. Be reminded that the term "vigilante" is not actually the name of these hoodlums. For all we know they named themselves the Brotherhood of the Carabao. But the thing is, in order for the people and media to qualify these criminals, to categorize them they gave them a description, thus Vigilante, which means, "a member of a volunteer committee organized to suppress and punish crime summarily."
And since according to police records these 160 (imagine that man, if that doesn't shock you, I don't know what will) unsolved cases have similarities - armed men riding a motor cycle, gunned down victims were either criminals or suspected criminals - it's enough to say there are being done by these crooks, the vigilante.

Â* Does FRAT VIOLENCE count if that is the case ? Sus kadaghan na unsolved violence/killingsÂ* sa Cebu and your count is only 160 plus ? That is JUMPING to CONLUSIONS kay mao man sulti sa media .

The argument is a no-brainer, really. The real issue here is: Has our government (the police department for that matter) that inept to safeguard its citizens?

Â* Without the 160 plus killings by the VIGILANTES kuno , that is still a question everyone is entitled to address to the government and the law enforcement .

Because you know, the society might be conditioned through time that it is easy to purge out criminals and suspected criminals simply by killing them and not through our justice system.

Â* That is not the case . Kadaghan na gi salvage sa Cebu , the case is , NI EXIST BA GYUD BA ANG VIGILANTE or NAAY NAGPAKA VIGILANTE KUNUHAY .

And when that time happens, it's like living the horrors of Martial Law again.

Â* Then you can start laughing because that is not the "VIGILANTES" anymore doing the cime which we can obviously say , the CRIMINALS are identified because they dont have to wear a mask and ride motorcycles .

Supposing, part, you were unfortunately being labeled by your neighbors that you become rich is because you deal with narcopolitics. And the Vigilante heard this.

You were shot.

Â* If you are really engaged into it then bye bye .... but just because theyve " HEARD " about it is as easy as 1-2-3 to pay you a visit to your favorite tambayan is not the case . Ayaw himua ang " VIGILANTES " ug mga chismosa , if they really existed , I firmly believed they have their own form justice system ... angay ba gyud ka tipi-on or hatagan ug tsansa .