MERGED: Your ghost/paranormal encounters/stories/pictures

[sushikandi]

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Teda: Alright thank you for answering my questions although I am still confused by your descriptions but anyway that would do. I find your stories very entertaining and amusing rather than creepy. Well you take care of yourself.

[joan624]

Teda: Alright thank you for answering my questions although I am still confused by your descriptions but anyway that would do. I find your stories very entertaining and amusing rather than creepy. Well you take care of yourself.

HAHAHA i dont get this at all.. that was supposed to creep people out, darling.. like RL Stine's FEAR STREET series.. or the kiddie GOOSEBUMPS series rather cause it's more on funny ghouls and creatures lol
she's a good story teller noh? makalingaw kau ni nga thread.. im glad they're here para pirmi ni buhi.. nahan jud kog ungo2x sukad bata pako..

[sushikandi]

HAHAHA i dont get this at all.. that was supposed to creep people out, darling.. like RL Stine's FEAR STREET series.. or the kiddie GOOSEBUMPS series rather cause it's more on funny ghouls and creatures lol
she's a good story teller noh? makalingaw kau ni nga thread.. im glad they're here para pirmi ni buhi.. nahan jud kog ungo2x sukad bata pako..

She has alot of stories to tell, its just that some of the descriptions is not vivid enough. But let her be, its her experiences we are just here to read, ask and comment. She has a gift good thing she doesn't use it for bad purposes cause that would be so wrong. We don't want that.

This page is every entertaining. I hope people will share their experiences too!

[joan624]

She has alot of stories to tell, its just that some of the descriptions is not vivid enough. But let her be, its her experiences we are just here to read, ask and comment. She has a gift good thing she doesn't use it for bad purposes cause that would be so wrong. We don't want that.

This page is every entertaining. I hope people will share their experiences too!

certainly! i so agree. luoy lng cya noh kay mahasol cya usahay. im thankful nga wala ko ana. mamatay tngali kog sayo hahaha

[rodsky]

so bro, bale wa pa jud ka bisag kausa nakafeel ug mga weird unexplainable stuff nga kanang makuyawan jd ka nya manglimbawt balhibo?

I do have such experiences, but careful analysis and using the scientific method and common sense made me realize there was nothing supernatural about what I felt or what I saw or what I heard, nga frightening. Na-solve ra nako ang issue by being inquisitive, unafraid, and sensible--I dug into my knowledge base of scientific fact and this led me to conclude that whatever fearful things I observed are only products of the natural laws of physics acting upon this world. This method of thinking leads to the path where you can enjoy a life less harried by useless worries and useless fears.

-RODION

[lana21]

Pardon my intrusion into this thread, but as a rational individual, living in a (somewhat) rational world, I find it my duty and responsibility to tell you people that ghosts and spirits do not exist.

-RODION

would you like to join in one of my aunts spirit of the glass session so that after, you could explain to us why the glass moved and why it moved to the letters to form a word to answer our questions, scientifically.

Rodion i respect you, ako wala pa sad ko ka experienced nor ka kita og mga ghost and im not sure pud if kani ila mga stories dre kay TRUE some though, i believe are true. but naka attend nako og spirit of the glass, weve spoken to our lolo and lola who died already.

Unless if you could explain scientifically why the glass moved to the correct letters to form words or short sentences to answer our questions, basin ma convince pa ko nimo.. I dont know coz i myself witnessed the reality of it.

[rodsky]

would you like to join in one of my aunts spirit of the glass session so that after, you could explain to us why the glass moved and why it moved to the letters to form a word to answer our questions, scientifically.

Rodion i respect you, ako wala pa sad ko ka experienced nor ka kita og mga ghost and im not sure pud if kani ila mga stories dre kay TRUE some though, i believe are true. but naka attend nako og spirit of the glass, weve spoken to our lolo and lola who died already.

Unless if you could explain scientifically why the glass moved to the correct letters to form words or short sentences to answer our questions, basin ma convince pa ko nimo.. I dont know coz i myself witnessed the reality of it.

"Spirit of the Glass" is nothing more than a crude version of the Ouija Board:


Whoever "invented" Spirit of the Glass is just a copycat of the Parker Bro's game. To explain why the glass moves like it does, let's take fragment of a staff report from the Straight Dope Science Advisory Board:


Dear Straight Dope:

Can you please explain exactly how a Ouija board works? I know some people say it's because of spirits, and others say it's because of involuntary movements, but most people would agree that it's really not explainable. If that's the case, then how can Parker Brothers manufacture a game which process can't be explained?

— Heather and Mark

To answer your last question first--it is, as you said, a game. They don't need to explain it; they just need to know that people will buy it so they can make money.

Going back to your first question, yes, we can explain how the Ouija board works. In fact, you mentioned it in your question--involuntary movements. Evidently you didn't find that persuasive, so let me take another stab.

For those who don't know what a Oiuja board is, let's start from the beginning, with some help from the Museum of Talking Boards at Museum of Talking Boards: An Online Museum of Ouija Boards (only on the net, not a museum you can visit in person). The Ouija board was invented by E.C. Reiche, Elijah Bond, and Charles Kennard in the early 1890's, and then improved upon and mass marketed by William Fuld. Before the Ouija board, spirit mediums used, among other things, a dial plate talking board, which had a letter indicator joined by a spindle to the center of the board. This rotated to pick different letters. Another way of bringing forth supposed messages from the dead was the planchette, which was generally heart-shaped, with a hole for a pencil in the tip of the heart. The medium put his/her hands on the two lobes of the heart and either moved it on a piece of paper to do "automatic writing" (writing with the pencil that supposedly came from the dead) or on a pre-printed chart to point to letters, statements, etc. The inventors of the Ouija board combined these two items.

Even back in the 1880s, the planchette was being sold as a novelty item and parlor game. The Ouija board was in the same vein--an important point. The board didn't originate with swamis, emanate from the mysterious East, or anything like that. It was invented and marketed by American businessmen hoping to make a buck.

The Ouija board has the letters of the alphabet and the numbers 0-9 printed on it, along with YES, NO, GOODBYE, and sometimes a few other things. Copycat versions of the game may incorporate astrological, Tarot, or other New Age symbols. The idea is that you ask the spirit world a question and then rest your hand(s) on the pointer while the spirits answer you.

You may have heard that the name Oiuja (pronounced WEE-ja) is a combination of oui (French for "yes") and ja (German for "yes'). Alas, that was made up by Mr. Fuld. Another story is that Mr. Kennard thought Ouija was Egyptian for "good luck." It isn't really, but the board itself supposedly told him, so who was he to argue?

After Kennard came up with the name, the Kennard Novelty Company advertised the first Ouija board as follows:

OUIJA

A WONDERFUL TALKING BOARD

Interesting and mysterious; surpasses in its results second sight, mind reading, clairvoyance;
will give intelligent answer to any question.
Proven at patent office before patent was allowed.

Price $1.50.

I particularly like the part about having to prove that it works at the patent office. Be interesting to see how they did that.

Having taken over Kennard, Fuld and later his family ran the Ouija board company for many years, finally selling the game to Parker Brothers in 1966. Early last year, Parker Brothers introduced a smaller glow-in-the-dark version of the game.

How does the Ouija board work? New-Agey folks think you get messages from spirits or ghosts or Invisible Pink Unicorns or something. Yeah, sure. Here's the real explanation, from the Skeptic's Dictionary (http://skepdic.com/ouija.html): "those using the board either consciously or unconsciously select what is read." If you want to prove it to yourself, follow the advice of that same site: "simply try it blindfolded for some time, having an innocent bystander take notes on what letters are selected. Usually, the result will be unintelligible nonsense."


What makes the pointer move? An effect similar to that which occurs in dowsing, known as the ideomotor effect. This is a fancy name for involuntary/unconscious movement, such as a dowser's hand flicking enough to move his stick when he passes over an area he knows has water. (In fact, Cecil has discussed this very subject.) The basic point is that your muscles can move without your consciously thinking, "move to the word YES." As the Skeptic''s Dictionary says, "suggestions can be made to the mind by others or by observations. Those suggestions can influence the mind and affect motor behavior. What is purely physiological, however, appears to some to be paranormal." In other words, if you believe this stuff and are trying to get the spirits to answer questions proving that they are all-knowing, and you ask a question that you already know the answer to (for example, "What's my father's name?"), odds are that your own hands will do the rest by spelling out your answer. That's where trying it blindfolded comes in (provided you haven't memorized the board, obviously). If it's spirits, they should be able to guide your hands no matter whether you can see or not. But if it's you doing it unconsciously, the blindfold will screw things up.

Of course, this assumes you're the one operating the pointer. If a medium is doing it instead, there's always the possibility that s/he is simply faking it as part of the show.

The point is, the Ouija board is easily explainable. Whether you'll accept that I don't know."

-RODION

[jhully1836]

Jhully: got your number na
hmmmm. dli mn xa hadlok sis. nhug na mua na nuon xag guardian nko. wala mn sad koi ma ukay nia gd. no past..no mem'ries. ahehehe. so murag i dont have anything to worry bout him. but since wala nmi ddto ngpuyo, wala nsad ko kita nia. hmmmm. BERNADETH? that's my name. lahi lang spelling. hahahaha. hmmmm. nksuway sad ko anang sa simbahan sis... but nhuman sad jud to nko akong tuyo nia. bahalag barag2 nko ngawas after ato. ahahahaha mkaya rna nmu sis! adto nia ing 20

really you got my num? maau nuon ... i dont know about the details ana karn 20 but i hope i can come ... just please inform me on what time and place ...

thanks ...

[lana21]

"Spirit of the Glass" is nothing more than a crude version of the Ouija Board:


Whoever "invented" Spirit of the Glass is just a copycat of the Parker Bro's game. To explain why the glass moves like it does, let's take fragment of a staff report from the Straight Dope Science Advisory Board:


Dear Straight Dope:

Can you please explain exactly how a Ouija board works? I know some people say it's because of spirits, and others say it's because of involuntary movements, but most people would agree that it's really not explainable. If that's the case, then how can Parker Brothers manufacture a game which process can't be explained?

— Heather and Mark

To answer your last question first--it is, as you said, a game. They don't need to explain it; they just need to know that people will buy it so they can make money.

Going back to your first question, yes, we can explain how the Ouija board works. In fact, you mentioned it in your question--involuntary movements. Evidently you didn't find that persuasive, so let me take another stab.

For those who don't know what a Oiuja board is, let's start from the beginning, with some help from the Museum of Talking Boards at Museum of Talking Boards: An Online Museum of Ouija Boards (only on the net, not a museum you can visit in person). The Ouija board was invented by E.C. Reiche, Elijah Bond, and Charles Kennard in the early 1890's, and then improved upon and mass marketed by William Fuld. Before the Ouija board, spirit mediums used, among other things, a dial plate talking board, which had a letter indicator joined by a spindle to the center of the board. This rotated to pick different letters. Another way of bringing forth supposed messages from the dead was the planchette, which was generally heart-shaped, with a hole for a pencil in the tip of the heart. The medium put his/her hands on the two lobes of the heart and either moved it on a piece of paper to do "automatic writing" (writing with the pencil that supposedly came from the dead) or on a pre-printed chart to point to letters, statements, etc. The inventors of the Ouija board combined these two items.

Even back in the 1880s, the planchette was being sold as a novelty item and parlor game. The Ouija board was in the same vein--an important point. The board didn't originate with swamis, emanate from the mysterious East, or anything like that. It was invented and marketed by American businessmen hoping to make a buck.

The Ouija board has the letters of the alphabet and the numbers 0-9 printed on it, along with YES, NO, GOODBYE, and sometimes a few other things. Copycat versions of the game may incorporate astrological, Tarot, or other New Age symbols. The idea is that you ask the spirit world a question and then rest your hand(s) on the pointer while the spirits answer you.

You may have heard that the name Oiuja (pronounced WEE-ja) is a combination of oui (French for "yes") and ja (German for "yes'). Alas, that was made up by Mr. Fuld. Another story is that Mr. Kennard thought Ouija was Egyptian for "good luck." It isn't really, but the board itself supposedly told him, so who was he to argue?

After Kennard came up with the name, the Kennard Novelty Company advertised the first Ouija board as follows:

OUIJA

A WONDERFUL TALKING BOARD

Interesting and mysterious; surpasses in its results second sight, mind reading, clairvoyance;
will give intelligent answer to any question.
Proven at patent office before patent was allowed.

Price $1.50.

I particularly like the part about having to prove that it works at the patent office. Be interesting to see how they did that.

Having taken over Kennard, Fuld and later his family ran the Ouija board company for many years, finally selling the game to Parker Brothers in 1966. Early last year, Parker Brothers introduced a smaller glow-in-the-dark version of the game.

How does the Ouija board work? New-Agey folks think you get messages from spirits or ghosts or Invisible Pink Unicorns or something. Yeah, sure. Here's the real explanation, from the Skeptic's Dictionary (http://skepdic.com/ouija.html): "those using the board either consciously or unconsciously select what is read." If you want to prove it to yourself, follow the advice of that same site: "simply try it blindfolded for some time, having an innocent bystander take notes on what letters are selected. Usually, the result will be unintelligible nonsense."


What makes the pointer move? An effect similar to that which occurs in dowsing, known as the ideomotor effect. This is a fancy name for involuntary/unconscious movement, such as a dowser's hand flicking enough to move his stick when he passes over an area he knows has water. (In fact, Cecil has discussed this very subject.) The basic point is that your muscles can move without your consciously thinking, "move to the word YES." As the Skeptic''s Dictionary says, "suggestions can be made to the mind by others or by observations. Those suggestions can influence the mind and affect motor behavior. What is purely physiological, however, appears to some to be paranormal." In other words, if you believe this stuff and are trying to get the spirits to answer questions proving that they are all-knowing, and you ask a question that you already know the answer to (for example, "What's my father's name?"), odds are that your own hands will do the rest by spelling out your answer. That's where trying it blindfolded comes in (provided you haven't memorized the board, obviously). If it's spirits, they should be able to guide your hands no matter whether you can see or not. But if it's you doing it unconsciously, the blindfold will screw things up.

Of course, this assumes you're the one operating the pointer. If a medium is doing it instead, there's always the possibility that s/he is simply faking it as part of the show.

The point is, the Ouija board is easily explainable. Whether you'll accept that I don't know."

-RODION

all i can say is i wish you could join us-in one of our sessions!!! PM me if ever you might want to kay i really want to hear your explanation after.

[lana21]

and by the way sa spirit of the glass, we dont use a board, all we do ra gyud is to draw the letters and numbers sa cartolina with a circle in the center for the glass and thats it.